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Old 04-28-14 | 07:47 PM
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The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14





THE NEXT TARGET ON THE BLACKLIST CAUSES RED CONCERN - LINUS ROACHE ("LAW & ORDER: SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT") GUEST STARS - After a Politician in Prague is framed for a murder, Red (James Spader) suspects it's the work of The Kingmaker (guest star Linus Roache) - a strategist behind the rise of some of the world's most powerful politicians. While Red helps Liz (Megan Boone) and the FBI catch him, Liz uncovers a secret that Red's been keeping from her. Diego Klattenhoff, Ryan Eggold, Harry Lennix, and Parminder Nagra also star. TV-14 V

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Old 04-28-14 | 11:26 PM
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

Ooooooo... nice episode.

Only two more eps left in a strong first season.
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

She is a bad agent, bad guys are always getting the drop on her.
Old 04-29-14 | 09:07 AM
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

The one thing about Keen telling Red "We're done" is that we know they're not. It will be interesting to see what happens to get back with Red.

And Ressler might benefit from Tom's reveal. He might be hitting that very soon. Bow chicka bow bow
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So after the Tom Keen car commercial was that Elizabeth Keen doing the voiceover for something having to do with identity theft? Then later in the episode they had a plot point about identity theft?
Old 04-29-14 | 11:40 AM
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god damn it. my dvr recorded it but it was an "empty" recording. now i have to wait for the stupid vod.
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We're done. Yeah right.

Cool episode. Brought back a lot of recurring story lines including Alan Alda's character. Surprised that there was no Tom at all.

Curious to know what Red is hiding about Lizzie's father.
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The one thing about Keen telling Red "We're done" is that we know they're not. It will be interesting to see what happens to get back with Red.
Hey this is only the fourth or fifth time she's told him that. What makes you think it won't stick this time?
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She is a bad agent, bad guys are always getting the drop on her.
the thing is she is a green agent. I think the pilot was her first day on the job and Red plucked her from obscurity. I am sure not everyone can be Clarice Starling but they have managed to capture or kill a black lister almost every episode!
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

To think, there have been a lot of times Lizzie could have gotten blood off Red to find out about him. I'm surprised she doesn't order a DNA test.

I cringed when the end cut to Ressler, knowing they would pair those two up after both losing the significant other. And sure enough, Lizzie knocks on the door.
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

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To think, there have been a lot of times Lizzie could have gotten blood off Red to find out about him. I'm surprised she doesn't order a DNA test.
That might still happen. They may have been holding off until it's needed.
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I don't think we'll get the true nature of Red and Lizzie's relationship revealed this season.
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I don't think we'll get the true nature of Red and Lizzie's relationship revealed this season.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the last scene of this seasons finale has Liz asking Red - are you my real father? and before Red answers, the screen fades to black or something happens to Red or Liz, distracting Red from answering then the screen fades to black.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the last scene of this seasons finale has Liz asking Red - are you my real father? and before Red answers, the screen fades to black or something happens to Red or Liz, distracting Red from answering then the screen fades to black.
She already asked that, and he said no.
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What if Red is her mom!!!

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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

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the thing is she is a green agent. I think the pilot was her first day on the job and Red plucked her from obscurity. I am sure not everyone can be Clarice Starling but they have managed to capture or kill a black lister almost every episode!
Exactly. I think that is one of undercurrents of the show in that she is not really a very good agent and elevated above her head because of the association with Red. I would think at some point she will break through and become more independently competent.
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

Originally Posted by SuckaMC
She already asked that, and he said no.
He also said he would never lie to her but he has....
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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14

Originally Posted by LaxBandit
I wouldn't be surprised to see the last scene of this seasons finale has Liz asking Red - are you my real father? and before Red answers, the screen fades to black or something happens to Red or Liz, distracting Red from answering then the screen fades to black.
Damn that's good! Do you write for TV?
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Originally Posted by SuckaMC
She already asked that, and he said no.
Ahh, but he could say that without lying if he thinks of only being her biological father, plus the music box essentially confirmed he is her father.
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Ahh, but he could say that without lying if he thinks of only being her biological father, plus the music box essentially confirmed he is her father.
How did the music box confirm this? I missed it.
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How did the music box confirm this? I missed it.
She remembered it from her childhood and playing it with her father.
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She remembered it from her childhood and playing it with her father.
She didn't remember the music box, she remembered the tune, which her father used to hum to her when she had nightmares.

It's not clear whether she meant her biological father, or her adoptive father in the scene though.

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What happened to her mom? I'm wondering if Red is her uncle.
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I think that Red is a childhood friend of her parents, and that he and her adoptive father had a pac to take care of her after her parents died in the fire, maybe Red and the adoptive father are the reason that her parents are dead.
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What happened to her mom?
Her mom died when she was young, after her criminal father left.

I'm thinking that Red is not her father. He said he wouldn't lie to her, and he showed it in this episode when he admitted to killing her adoptive father, which would've been a perfect thing to lie about. His only deceits have been lies of omission, not telling her certain things.

Earlier in the season I was thinking that Liz's father is "the adversary" Red is after; having Liz on Red's side would make her a formidable opponent against her own father.

Now I'm thinking she might be part of the "evidence" Red had against the cabal, and wants to rise her through the ranks of the FBI to help take them out.


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