The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14
 

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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14
 

Ooooooo... nice episode.

Only two more eps left in a strong first season.

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She is a bad agent, bad guys are always getting the drop on her.

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The one thing about Keen telling Red "We're done" is that we know they're not. It will be interesting to see what happens to get back with Red.

And Ressler might benefit from Tom's reveal. He might be hitting that very soon. Bow chicka bow bow :hump:

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So after the Tom Keen car commercial was that Elizabeth Keen doing the voiceover for something having to do with identity theft? Then later in the episode they had a plot point about identity theft?

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god damn it. my dvr recorded it but it was an "empty" recording. now i have to wait for the stupid vod.

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We're done. Yeah right.

Cool episode. Brought back a lot of recurring story lines including Alan Alda's character. Surprised that there was no Tom at all.

Curious to know what Red is hiding about Lizzie's father.

Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14
 

Hey this is only the fourth or fifth time she's told him that. What makes you think it won't stick this time? :)

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the thing is she is a green agent. I think the pilot was her first day on the job and Red plucked her from obscurity. I am sure not everyone can be Clarice Starling but they have managed to capture or kill a black lister almost every episode!

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To think, there have been a lot of times Lizzie could have gotten blood off Red to find out about him. I'm surprised she doesn't order a DNA test.

I cringed when the end cut to Ressler, knowing they would pair those two up after both losing the significant other. And sure enough, Lizzie knocks on the door.

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That might still happen. They may have been holding off until it's needed.

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I don't think we'll get the true nature of Red and Lizzie's relationship revealed this season.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see the last scene of this seasons finale has Liz asking Red - are you my real father? and before Red answers, the screen fades to black or something happens to Red or Liz, distracting Red from answering then the screen fades to black.

Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14
 

She already asked that, and he said no.

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What if Red is her mom!!!

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Exactly. I think that is one of undercurrents of the show in that she is not really a very good agent and elevated above her head because of the association with Red. I would think at some point she will break through and become more independently competent.

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He also said he would never lie to her but he has....-ptth-

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Damn that's good! Do you write for TV?

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Ahh, but he could say that without lying if he thinks of only being her biological father, plus the music box essentially confirmed he is her father.

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How did the music box confirm this? I missed it.

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She remembered it from her childhood and playing it with her father.

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She didn't remember the music box, she remembered the tune, which her father used to hum to her when she had nightmares.

It's not clear whether she meant her biological father, or her adoptive father in the scene though.

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Re: The Blacklist -- "The Kingmaker" -- 4/28/14
 

What happened to her mom? I'm wondering if Red is her uncle.

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I think that Red is a childhood friend of her parents, and that he and her adoptive father had a pac to take care of her after her parents died in the fire, maybe Red and the adoptive father are the reason that her parents are dead.

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Her mom died when she was young, after her criminal father left.

I'm thinking that Red is not her father. He said he wouldn't lie to her, and he showed it in this episode when he admitted to killing her adoptive father, which would've been a perfect thing to lie about. His only deceits have been lies of omission, not telling her certain things.

Earlier in the season I was thinking that Liz's father is "the adversary" Red is after; having Liz on Red's side would make her a formidable opponent against her own father.

Now I'm thinking she might be part of the "evidence" Red had against the cabal, and wants to rise her through the ranks of the FBI to help take them out.