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Old 04-16-14, 12:11 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by JasonF
Speaking of, did they explain (last night, or in prior episodes) why Roose had married a fat chick? One of my favorite little details/jokes from the books.

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Walder Frey had promised a dowry equivalent to Roose's bride's weight in gold. So of course Roose picks the fattest Frey daughter.
Yes they did, I believe in the Rains of Castamere episode from last season.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

I wonder if Ser Pounce, Lady Whiskers, and Boots were cast for this season?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by wishbone
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watching this makes me miss the head of House Stark
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by Maxflier
So Tommen is king now? Kinda weird that such an insignificant character (and by insignificant I mean not being featured much) from the show is now in such a prominent position.
Keep in mind that he's just a kid, so the real power is going to lie with his Hand (Tywin) and his regent (Cersei).
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by wishbone
I wonder if Ser Pounce, Lady Whiskers, and Boots were cast for this season?
With Tommen being 14 or 15 in the show instead of 6 or 7, I doubt it ha.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by JasonF
Keep in mind that he's just a kid, so the real power is going to lie with his Hand (Tywin) and his regent (Cersei).
So basically.. nothing is changed. Except for the king walking around being a jerk to everyone.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by superdeluxe
Yes they did, I believe in the Rains of Castamere episode from last season.
Yup.

I had hoped Fat Walda would be even fatter, because that only makes it funnier.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by dhmac
BTW, since Roose Bolton said in this episode he may reconsider his bastard son Ramsey's position there (which presumably means legitimizing him into their family) - why did Ned Stark never do the same for John Snow, given that he did not have a negative view of him to start with?
There is a very spolier-y, well discussed reason for this:

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Jon Snow is not the son of Ned, but the son of his sister Lyanna and Rhaegar Targaryean
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by dhmac
I don't think so...
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...even if the rumored parentage is true, he would still be a bastard, correct? And without the supposed real father legitimizing him, his last name would never be Targaryan.

However, the (rumored pretend) father could've legitimized him due to the his own ruse and even accepted it himself, due to the real mother's last name being Stark.
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Actually there is some evidence that Jon was not illegitimate in the books.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

We now know when we get to see
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Oberyn fight the Mountain. Episode 8, titled "The Mountain and The Viper"
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by General Zod
So basically.. nothing is changed. Except for the king walking around being a jerk to everyone.
Tommen appears like he'll be more controllable, so you won't have him doing crazy things like order Ned Stark executed instead of sent to the Wall (for example). King's Landing will probably also see a decrease in the number of whores crossbowed to death.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by JasonF
Tommen appears like he'll be more controllable, so you won't have him doing crazy things like order Ned Stark executed instead of sent to the Wall (for example). King's Landing will probably also see a decrease in the number of whores crossbowed to death.
It's more obvious before Joffery's death in the books, but Tommen and Myrcella are actually good kids.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by Draven
It's more obvious before Joffery's death in the books, but Tommen and Myrcella are actually good kids.
But now Cerci and Tywin are MORE in charge
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by wishbone
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Look at the pain on Neds face referring to Jon's mom. That ain't no tavern whore he's thinking about
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by HN
watching this makes me miss the head of House Stark
No need to miss it - it's on a pole just outside the Red Keep for all to see.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by dhmac
No need to miss it - it's on a pole just outside the Red Keep for all to see.
I still maintain that the subtext of this series should have been "...and Fuck the Starks"

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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

So, the necklace that Ser Dontos gave to Sansa...was that the same one Lady Olenna threw over the wall when saying it was no good for Margaery?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

So what happens to Margaery? Is she now going to marry Tommen? Do the Tyrells no longer have an alliance with the Lannisters?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by Moopher
So, the necklace that Ser Dontos gave to Sansa...was that the same one Lady Olenna threw over the wall when saying it was no good for Margaery?
It was thick gold necklace.

Originally Posted by dalbowski
So what happens to Margaery? Is she now going to marry Tommen? Do the Tyrells no longer have an alliance with the Lannisters?
Stay tune!
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by JasonF
Tommen appears like he'll be more controllable, so you won't have him doing crazy things like order Ned Stark executed instead of sent to the Wall (for example). King's Landing will probably also see a decrease in the number of whores crossbowed to death.
There's one whore Cerci would still like to see crossbowed to death.

Tommen is too young. You'll never get him off his PS4 or texting with his friends long enough to do any ruling.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by dhmac
No need to miss it - it's on a pole just outside the Red Keep for all to see.
Actually Littlefinger had Ned's body returned to Cat so that it could be buried in Season 2, remember?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by General Zod
Tommen is too young. You'll never get him off his PS4 or texting with his friends long enough to do any ruling.
I know personal attacks are off-limits here, so hopefully a mod won't see this...but this is the most idiotic post I've ever seen on this or any other forum. A PS4? Everybody knows that Tommen has an Xbox One.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by Groucho
I know personal attacks are off-limits here, so hopefully a mod won't see this...but this is the most idiotic post I've ever seen on this or any other forum. A PS4? Everybody knows that Tommen has an Xbox One.
No way.. I don't buy that the Lannisters are technophiles... they seem a bit too focused on war and domination.... Plus, with Tommen being younger, they totally bought him a Wii-U.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by EctoCooler
Actually Littlefinger had Ned's body returned to Cat so that it could be buried in Season 2, remember?
Yeah, but Cat fled after Renly was killed. I'm pretty sure she didn't take the remains with her. Any idea on who has them now?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Lion and the Rose" -- 4/13/14

Originally Posted by EctoCooler
Actually Littlefinger had Ned's body returned to Cat so that it could be buried in Season 2, remember?
Are you sure that box included the head?


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