Decker

Fallon is apparently an insecure, overly-sensitive, moody man-baby who makes staffers lives hell.

Noonan

I assumed that was the case for all late night talk show hosts.

dex14

I'm shocked.

cultshock

Me too. I'm currently reading a biography about Carson, and "moody", "insecure" and "overly sensitive" come up a lot. Same with the books I've read about Letterman. (I was a big fan of both Carson and Letterman but have never liked Fallon)

Count Dooku

So, for whatever reasons, a 48 year old man goes and gets stinking drunk and when he comes to work the next day, he is "erratic" and "mean."

So, in this workplace, when the boss is having a bad day, he's "mean" to the staff by picking on their mistakes and being difficult to please. He "berates and belittles" his employees. But what specifically is he saying when he is hurling these insults and criticisms? And when the boss is "having a bad day," the employees have to focus on their work and not hang out having a good time.

So just to recap: In this workplace, when the boss is hungover, he's mean. He's overly-critical and sometimes insulting to his employees. Employees have learned that the best thing to do on those days is to stay out of the boss' way and focus on working.

Is this a "toxic" atmosphere where people are being mistreated, or just a description of every job ever?

Decker

It does sound an awful lot like the Larry Sanders Show, but with less stability in show-runners.

RichC2

That sounds like a regular work place to me.

fujishig

It's mainly because it's in stark contrast to the persona he's built up. Plus maybe the bosses in your office shouldn't be hungover as often as they are? I don't think I've been in a workplace where my boss was surly because he'd been out drinking regularly.

RichC2

I suppose, his persona has always been criticized as coming off as fake so those folks were correct. I do agree the hangovers are super unprofessional.

The Questyen

Not any I've ever worked at. I run a company currently and I can guarantee none of my employees would say they had to avoid eye contact with me so I didn't berate them or fire them.

spainlinx0

Yes, I've worked at many different places, with all different types of bad bosses, but I never had any bosses that acted like that. If you think that's normal behavior, then I feel sorry for you.

RichC2

I didn't see the line on eye contact, yeah that didn't happen. The berating, snapping, and childish arguments are common though.

cultshock

This. I've never had a boss like that ever. It is not normal, it is not professional, and shouldn't be accepted.

TheBang

Everything I've read and heard about Colbert is that he's a real nice guy. Same with Conan O'Brien. You don't have to dig too far to find asshole stories about James Corden or Jimmy Fallon.

Giantrobo

Thank You! I don't bring my personal shit to work and shit it on my Employees. Making it seem like it's "ok" is truly disturbing.

Josh-da-man

Whenever I hear these horror stories about Hollywood bosses being awful to the people under them, it's really not different from dozens of experiences the people know IRL have. Supervisors that have them in tears. Bosses trying to make the people under them so miserable that they quit so they can hire one of their friends to fill the position. Every nurse I've know has been treated like absolute shit by their nurse supervisors and their administrators -- and that nurse supervisor is likewise treated like shit by their boss. My wife was treated so badly in her first job (in finance) that she would come home nearly every night crying.

Josh-da-man

And, no, it isn't okay, but it isn't something that is unique to Hollywood and it happens all the time to people not on the entertainment industry. Nurses. Waitstaff. Salespeople. Amazon warehouse workers. Cable installers.

majorjoe23

A co-worker's son was college roommates with Colbert's son. She said he came over and cleaned their apartment himself when they were moving out. Not just hired a cleaning crew, he showed up with cleaning supplies and did the work himself.

The Questyen

Death isn't something that is unique to Hollywood and it happens all the time to people not in the entertainment industry so why is there a thread anytime anyone dies that was ever in the entertainment industry. This is a thread about Jimmy Fallon and finding out he is a toxic boss is relevant to the thread it doesn't matter if there are toxic bosses in other fields or not.

DJariya

Fallon apologized to his staff

https://deadline.com/2023/09/jimmy-f...rt-1235539929/

JeffTheAlpaca

I assume most of the erratic behavior happened a while back when he was drinking and he probably stopped

He is a born in 1974 brother like me so I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and they had multiple showrunners so maybe it was more them then it was him.

I bet Lorne Michaels probably treated people worse but we don't hear about it.

GoldenJCJ

I lost all respect for Fallon when I learned he (and Tina Fey, among others) looked the other way when Horatio Sanz was sexually assaulting underage girls around them.

Match

Anthony Jeselnik on Writing for Jimmy Fallon, Comments on His Drinking | Joe Rogan - (April 29, 2019)

Count Dooku

Jerry Seinfeld has come out and stated that the story involving him was all BS, none of it happened the way it has been reported.

Count Dooku

That wholesome and innocent teenage girl who was regularly attending SNL's famous drunken after-parties that go from bar to bar until sun-up Sunday morning.