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Old 11-23-13 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sydonesia
BTW, I did also like Mark pulling back the curtain a little during the lunchbox deal when Lori claimed she could get them with Disney and he chimed in with "You just got national exposure on Shark Tank. ANY of us can get you with Disney now."
They're on ABC... All of the fucking "Sharks" work for the Mouse.
Old 11-23-13 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
I wish someone coming into the tank would rip Robert a new one when he does that. I'd be telling him "Well, I'd hope you wouldn't want to work with someone who didn't explore all their options before making a decision" and if he fired back with that "well, you sometimes have to make snap judgments", I'd respond with "I don't want to risk my company with someone so impulsive."

This whole idea that taking time to think about an offer is toxic is NOT the way good business deals work, and those sharks should be ashamed of themselves for treating people like that, when it's more likely they're not really interested in the first place. It's good TV, but it's a bad education for potential up and comers out there.

That said, the sock couple knew exactly who and what they wanted and got it. Good for them.
Yeah, I agree that the DECIDE NOW, THIS SECOND, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT thing is bullshit. I'd tell Robert that "You're out. I don't want to partner up with someone who plays games with me like that."

Too bad the sock people didn't have Daymond on, he would have been a perfect partner for them.
Old 11-23-13 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sydonesia
I get what you're saying, but it's not really dramatic when Robert pulls that crap with ten minutes left in the show, since at that moment you know they aren't taking his deal.
That's an "Editing" issue, and really not at the control of "The Sharks" -the segments we see that form the episode may run far longer than we see and may not have been filmed in the order we see them.
Old 12-07-13 | 12:26 AM
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The destruction of the FoHawk women was one of the more brutal presentations I've seen on Shark Tank. They were all absolutely right, because the women just didn't have a clue how meager their business really was, but it was just done in such a tactless way. The blonde fighting back probably did her more harm than good, especially since she didn't seem interested in any criticism they had.
Old 12-07-13 | 10:58 AM
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Yeah, I think the only reason the FoHawk women made it this far was so the Sharks could eat them alive.

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Old 12-07-13 | 10:19 PM
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I want to try some of those ribs. I think the play is get into the restaurants through licensing, then continue to sell the guys ribs in the store, with whatever restaurant's name on them that licenses the ribs. He'd get the name brand recognition from the restaurant to sell more in store, then the money from actual restaurant sales. Win/win
Old 12-08-13 | 01:28 AM
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I want to try some of those ribs. I think the play is get into the restaurants through licensing, then continue to sell the guys ribs in the store, with whatever restaurant's name on them that licenses the ribs. He'd get the name brand recognition from the restaurant to sell more in store, then the money from actual restaurant sales. Win/win
I have to imagine a place like Outback would try those boneless ribs out on their menu.
Old 12-08-13 | 09:22 AM
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Outback, Tony Roma's, any of the chain steakhouses. I think it would be a big hit.
Old 12-09-13 | 10:04 AM
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The ribs looked awesome. I love "easy" food products like this, but historically they have been poor quality. I like that more gourmet options are starting to become available. I would definitely check it out.

I also loved seeing the Omni VR treadmill - I had no idea they were going on Shark Tank. That is some pretty big exposure for the Rift and associated technologies. I was also impressed they didn't totally destroy that guy, but I'm glad they didn't. While the cost is still high, it was less than they thought, and I think overall the technology impressed them. Whether or not Mark's assessment of this stuff only appealing to a niche of the still relatively niche gaming market remains to be seen.

The FoHawk women was awkward. Haven't seen a pitch that awkward since they made a women recount her history of substance abuse on national TV before stating none of them were interested and sending her on her way. I don't know why some people defend their products like that. They weren't even that harsh on the FoHawks, just saying they are pricey for what they are.
Old 12-09-13 | 10:10 AM
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The ribs looked awesome. I love "easy" food products like this, but historically they have been poor quality. I like that more gourmet options are starting to become available. I would definitely check it out.

I also loved seeing the Omni VR treadmill - I had no idea they were going on Shark Tank. That is some pretty big exposure for the Rift and associated technologies. I was also impressed they didn't totally destroy that guy, but I'm glad they didn't. While the cost is still high, it was less than they thought, and I think overall the technology impressed them. Whether or not Mark's assessment of this stuff only appealing to a niche of the still relatively niche gaming market remains to be seen.

The FoHawk women was awkward. Haven't seen a pitch that awkward since they made a women recount her history of substance abuse on national TV before stating none of them were interested and sending her on her way. I don't know why some people defend their products like that. They weren't even that harsh on the FoHawks, just saying they are pricey for what they are.
I think he was pretty accurate. Do you see your average gamer getting in that thing to play CoD? Most can't be bothered to move their hands around with the Wii, let alone actually running to move.
Old 12-09-13 | 10:22 AM
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I would love to have that thing for exercise purposes alone. No, I would not play on it the majority of the time. However, a quick 30-45 minute gaming session a day of sprints like that while playing COD would be amazing. However, it looked very awkward to run on. The idea is great though. I also was happy to see Mark talking up the Rift. It almost seemed like a paid plug how much he knew about it.
Old 12-09-13 | 10:32 AM
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Mark was right about the VR treadmill. It serves a niche market within a niche market. I just can't see it selling much even if the Oculus Rift is a huge hit. It's definitely cool though. I think their best bet might be getting the thing in Dave and Buster's.
Old 12-09-13 | 10:33 AM
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I would love to have that thing for exercise purposes alone. No, I would not play on it the majority of the time. However, a quick 30-45 minute gaming session a day of sprints like that while playing COD would be amazing. However, it looked very awkward to run on. The idea is great though. I also was happy to see Mark talking up the Rift. It almost seemed like a paid plug how much he knew about it.
A lot of people say the same thing when they buy treadmills for their home. "I can use it every night while I watch TV!" How many of those do you think get used after the first week?
Old 12-09-13 | 10:38 AM
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Mark was right about the VR treadmill. It serves a niche market within a niche market. I just can't see it selling much even if the Oculus Rift is a huge hit. It's definitely cool though. I think their best bet might be getting the thing in Dave and Buster's.
Yeah, that's probably going to end up being the most logical play for the tech. They should just lease or sell them to arcades and other entertainment focused businesses. I could see the experience being a real hit. Probably a bit much to ask your average person to pay for something like that though - I actually think the biggest issue is just its physical size.

I think the Rift will be pretty successful, but it's too early to say whether this submarket of VR products has any viability.
Old 12-09-13 | 11:41 AM
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I would love to have that thing for exercise purposes alone. No, I would not play on it the majority of the time. However, a quick 30-45 minute gaming session a day of sprints like that while playing COD would be amazing. However, it looked very awkward to run on. The idea is great though. I also was happy to see Mark talking up the Rift. It almost seemed like a paid plug how much he knew about it.
I used the kickstarted Rift for the first time the other day, after that you wouldn't have to pay me a cent to talk it up. Thing is phenomenal.
Old 12-09-13 | 11:57 AM
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The problem with the Omni is that it came off so much cooler as a complete package with the Rift and the gun. Robert was freaking out more over the Rift than anything else.

The price is probably going to be a dealbreaker for a lot of people. Especially when the "accessory" to the product ($400) costs more than the actual product ($300.)
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A lot of people say the same thing when they buy treadmills for their home. "I can use it every night while I watch TV!" How many of those do you think get used after the first week?
I see your point, but those treadmills still keep getting bought. The treadmill's problem is the monotony. I think if you disguise exercise, it works better. No one considers playing pickup basketball with your friends "exercise." Now play a pickup game on here.

I do not see it as any more than a niche product, but it is one I would be interested in. Also, the floor space is a lot less than a treadmill.
Old 12-09-13 | 06:34 PM
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I think that product is about 3-6 years ahead of its time. But I think by the end of the current gaming generation, we'll be seeing Microsoft selling it the way they sold Kinnect at the end of the last generation.
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I see your point, but those treadmills still keep getting bought. The treadmill's problem is the monotony. I think if you disguise exercise, it works better. No one considers playing pickup basketball with your friends "exercise." Now play a pickup game on here.

I do not see it as any more than a niche product, but it is one I would be interested in. Also, the floor space is a lot less than a treadmill.
Yeah, but you still need the space for it.
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Outback, Tony Roma's, any of the chain steakhouses. I think it would be a big hit.
I think what would ruin it would be his emphasis on microwaving the product. I assume he patented the process for deboning the ribs and not just the concept of deboned ribs.
Old 12-09-13 | 09:33 PM
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well i doubt they are going to be microwaving them at a restaurant. i think that's just for the home consumer. and it did sound like the process of actually removing the ribs was part of the patented process.
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Yeah, but you still need the space for it.
Well it looked to be less space than a treadmill. I guess as a guy living by himself I never think about the space arguments.
Old 12-11-13 | 09:28 AM
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I liked the barbecue guy, and hope he's successful. The virtual-reality device also looked like it had potential, but it's kind of like the Segway. Either people will embrace it or it'll die a slow death.
Old 12-11-13 | 09:31 AM
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The thing about the VR device is it's overpriced and not really high tech in and of itself. The Oculus Rift itself is amazing, if that was what they were pitching you could guarantee they would have made their deal. As for a treadmill with no movable parts for $500 that requires a $300 accessory to really use? Yeah not so much.
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