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Sleeping Baby was a great start to the new season.

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Hammer & Nails reminds me of Sport Clips.

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Yep.

The coaster/glass thing is intriguing to me. The cold beverage variety. I'd be all over that.

But hey, we have Mr. and Mrs. Wonderful.

$500 for a putter. rotfl And Mr. Wonderful cries.

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Am I the only one who thought the crying dude's story was total BS? He breaks down crying because he can't get his fiancé to come to the USA because her parents. Didn't this guy already say that he invested $100k in the business? Doesn't that show the future father-in-law that he can make an income?

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If you like the glass idea just grab a Tervis cup. Keeps your drink cold for hours and doesn't sweat. Unfortunately they're all plastic so probably not ideal for alcohol.

First time watching the show. It was fantastic. I can't believe I never gave it a shot before.

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It sounded like he had planned that sob story in advance, in case things weren't going well with the sharks. They've proven over and over again that emotional pleas often work better on the show than serious business proposals. He used their white guilt (if an Asian guy said it, it must be true:lol:) to his advantage. I thought it was brilliant, if a bit transparent.

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That was terrible. I had to fast forward through all the crying. I lost respect for the show when Robert made the deal. That was seriously stupid and Kevin should have ripped him a new one with something like there's no crying in business ... It's all about the money.

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That guy annoyed me. The whole thing felt staged, especially crying on cue and then having them speak Japanese in secret. Robert shouldn't have fallen for that act. Really? The father doesn't approve of the fiancees new business venture, so he can't bring her to the States? I think that dude watched too many old school Japanese soap operas.

I was happy for the couple with the Sleeping Baby pouch. The fact that the Bombas guys hesitated made them dumb. It was pretty damn close to what they wanted and Daymond said he was willing to help with manufacturing. I liked how Daymond said No when they asked to consult their CFO.

The cute engineers girls seemed really smart with a solid plan for their product. I'm glad they got a deal.

:thumbsup: Glad the show got a new opening sequence.

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I think Robert simply wanted in on a product he liked. That type of product needs a huge amount of exposure in the golf community to sell decently in the United States. He is likely hoping the Shark Tank brand will be enough to sell it. They will almost certainly have to drop its price for the American market, the Japanese market is completely different from ours.

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Yea. That was the worst "personal drama" on the show ever. It could have been real. I won't assume.

The golf clubs - there's always a high end market. When I buy something, I like to check out what the "bestest most expensive" item is. And then I figure out if I can buy it. I don't want a Cuisinart blender. I want a Vita-Mix 'The Quiet One'. Stuff like that. The golf club business will never be big. But I hope it makes money for everyone.

The coffee mugs - I liked them an would buy a box of six for my house. But not at $20ea (at least, not right now).

For the cell phone lockers - haha. Don't go on Shark Tank before your product is finished. When I was watching, I expected a little "door" to come down or something. And then I thought maybe they cut away from it. And then I realized it's not even a finished product!

For everyone - don't go to Shark Tank "pre revenue" or without impressive revenue. I'm sure the producers know what they're doing, throwing those people into the mix. As long as revenue exists, they seem interested (even if it's very little profit). But no revenue equals no interest.

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People that want top-of-the-line putters in the US will just buy a Scotty Cameron putter. It is a very well-known brand, it is used by a boatload of guys on tour, and the putters are $100-$200 cheaper than that one.

The putter is only selling in Japan, his fiancee is in Japan, and he speaks Japanese. If the sob story was true, which I really doubt, the solution is obvious: just move to Japan.

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Yeah, the way the guy was acting, I thought he was about to come out or something. Seemed way over-dramatic for what he was upset about and that long pause almost felt like he was trying to build up the tears as opposed to actual emotion like the coffee mug guy who was crying during the post interview but acting like he wasn't.

But I give it a pass because Shark Tank for the most part doesn't usually let emotion get in the way, and Robert with his track record has probably already backed out anyway.

As much as the phone charge guys got trashed, I thought the wedding wagon was even worse. Vegas seems like the ONLY place that would work at. And if business was as great as they acted, they sure as hell wouldn't have sold it off as quickly as they did for as little as they did.

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The golf club sob story was horrible. Their business was doing gangbusters in Japan from what they said. There is no way the dad disapproves of him knowing that. Even so, I don't get why the idiot couldn't just move to Japan.

With that said, I do think they have a viable business. They seem to be doing fine in Japan. It's a high end niche product, they'll get sales. They'll just never be big. Those putters seemed sweet too. Not $500 sweet but golf is a rich man's game. They'll get business.

The "Shark Tank Effect" is an interesting thing that kind of hurts the show. For the women selling the engineering type toy to girls the Sharks don't have to worry if the product will sell through or not. The fact they're on Shark Tank means that if they strike a deal they will definitely sell through.

The Wedding Wagon was a complete joke. That would never work anywhere and it seems ridiculous even in Vegas. When I saw the van and the guys I thought the idea was to put together a cheap wedding by having a minister and a wedding set up right there in the van. I didn't realize the van WAS the wedding set up. Yeah those guys are complete idiots for thinking this will work anywhere but in Vegas.

The phone chargers were a good idea. I've used similar things in bars. The difference being that you need to stand by the machine while you charge or you'll risk your phone getting stolen. It makes sense to have something that'll lock your phone inside so you can go about your business while getting charged. The fingerprint thing made it completely stupid though. No way that thing works 100% of the time. No way. Make the thing cheaper by having some sort of pin number lock. Then maybe you can get that off the ground. Maybe. It's a hard sell when there are free alternatives.

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Yeah, all the phone thing needs is locker keys like in amusement parks. Then they could charge. $1/half hour or something.

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The whole business model and product for the cellphone charger needed to be entirely re-worked. They would have been laughed out of a business class, much less the real world. They have a germ of a workable idea.

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I wondered why they didn't just have it so you swipe your credit card to unlock it. You could swipe once to open it, put your phone in and then swipe the same card again to unlock it. That way they could charge you based on how long you use the charger also.

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Because their business model is to charge the business $2000 per unit and not the end user. They have these at the airport but you have to be next to it as the phone recharges since it is all out in the open. It's just too complicated with the fragmented market and all the power adapters that will be needed for each phone.

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Ah, I missed that point. Still, they could use a credit card just for ID purposes. I remember airline kiosks would do that for check-ins (even if you didn't charge the ticket on that card.)

Also, if someone left their phone they'd be able to track down the owner.

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I hope SHARK TANK doesn't turn into a "sob story of the week" show...we got more of this than we needed last season. I guess it appeals to a certain demo, but I don't find it to be entertaining TV, especially when it's intentionally manipulating the audience.

For example, the Japanese kid was a BAD sob story as the kid knew he was about to get rejected, but the woman who lost her baby was actually a good one, because it didn't feel manipulative and she wasn't trying to use it to get a deal from one of the sharks.

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Everyone knows the deal by now on the show. If I needed funding and the exposure, I would most certainly have a sob story in place as a back-up plan.

Even Kevin isn't immune to emotional appeals, though he clearly shows the most restraint. The conversations would also turn out much differently if the Shark panels only consisted of male or female Sharks. Women feel much more comfortable cutting each other to ribbons when men aren't present. An all-female Shark tank panel might prove interesting.

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Agreed. This isn't Kids Got Singing.

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Totally baffled tonight.

Don't understand what was so special about the bath toy. How can that get a utility patent? I'm no patent lawyer but it's basically a dressed up sponge. Then Damon doubles down on the dog sling or whatever.

Then drumpants and blowing off Robert. rotfl

I actually thought the stupid ninja cards were the best product.

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The Drumpants people were a mess. They couldn't get on the same page and overvalued their company by a lot. Anyone wearing that would immediately become the most annoying person in the room.

Redesigning it to use with other Bluetooth devices is where its at. Good technology, bad product.

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I actually think the Drumpants technology had some potential, but they were just horrifically incompetent at dealing with the sharks.

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that asian american drumpants girl was soo stupid

I do think Shark Tank compared to Dragons Den UK and CA has the sharks being a bit too aggressive in terms of time frames and other demands on their offers. The people being made the offers should be able to hear everyone out first, absorb all of the offers, make counters if necessary then decide on an offer without fear of any offer being retracted.

But like everyone American, there has to be more forced drama, so you get people unfairly losing offers because of egos (sharks getting the hump if the people even consider other people's offers).

It's not like this on Dragons Den UK

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:lol: at how those two choked on the drumpants. The Asian girl had no clue. I was laughing also how Robert gave them a decent offer, but they got greedy and kept blowing him off. I was glad Robert pulled the offer.

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I agree. And what's worse is that sometimes if the contestants want to hear other offers, the Sharks are fine with it. Other times, the Sharks seem to get personally offended. It's just so random, or at least that's how it plays on TV.

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Seriously, at this point if Robert makes you an offer and your first response is to look at Mark Cuban, you're screwed. You're better off just declining it and rolling the dice with Mark. That way you can avoid the inevitable hissy fit before getting the offer pulled or changed to a worse deal.

You'd think some of these guys would actually WATCH the show before going in to realize that. But they just do the same dumb things over and over.

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Exactly...I keep thinking the same thing you do - do people not watch the series before coming off it. As many times as Robert has gone out after someone ignored him and looked for a better offer, you'd think they'd know better.

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I don't see how you could get a patent on the sponge either. We've had washcloths made out of stuffed animals that your hands go inside. I didn't see anything unique there.

And why Damon would invest in the dog sling is beyond me, except maybe that it's a very cheap investment that was turning a profit.

The drumpants had potential in terms of other uses or show acts, I'd think. But for the mainstream? No way.

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To be fair to the DrumPants people, it's not like Robert made them some incredible offer. If he offered them exactly what they were asking for I'd be more understanding of Robert's reaction. But he didn't. Of course they're going to keep shopping after getting an offer that isn't as good as what they came in asking for.

Robert is mostly a baby about these things. He doesn't like it that everyone would rather do a deal with Cuban over him. That's why he changed his mind.

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Robert is easily the most insecure Shark. He knows most people prefer some of the other Sharks if they have a choice, that's why he's such a dick about his offers.

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Before Cuban came on the show, Robert was the "tech" shark. Once Cuban showed up, the tech companies all want to work with him and Robert is usually an afterthought. It's so obvious most of the time that companies target one or two sharks. Lori has such a huge advantage for most consumer products with her QVC connections.

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There are cell phone chargers with doors that use credit cards for id purposes only. Made and sponsored by Samsung. Blue light shows available "slots" that turn red when they are "occupied". The whole time watching I am like "they have this already".

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Robert lost out again even though he had lower percentage ! lol

loved the kid who chose Mr Wonderful even though he had the worst percentage.

When was the last time Robert actually won out over other Sharks ? (doesn't count if he is the only one who made an offer)

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Robert seems like the most reasonable one to work with but he doesn't throw around his connections enough. Cuban was a celebrity before he ever came on this show and businesses realize he knows the tech space. Barbara seems to champion kids and single women. I don't think Kevin likes making many deals, he's at the point where he remains on as a villain to stir the pot. They need to bring in a new, worse villain.

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Boy that kid really made a panic move by going with Mr. Wonderful. Dad should have stepped in there and done the deal with Barbara. I know he's just a kid so he doesn't know but regardless of what your product is any of those sharks can make it successful. It doesn't make sense to give up an extra 15% in equity because one of them has more experience in a certain industry.

Barbara was being a dick for no real reason to those rich guys. They have a perfectly fine product but they need to get it in stores. They also need to lower that cost to $0.99. It's the perfect product to put by the register. If I saw that on my way out the store and it was .99 I would pick up 3 or 4 since they're pretty much one time use. For 2.99 though I wouldn't buy it.

And I may have missed it, but what the hell happened to the $2 million their dad gave them? If it was poorly invested it's a big red flag for the sharks so I assume there was something I missed.

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He'd be the first shark I'd want to do a deal with. We already know that Mr. Wonderful is just in it for the money and both Cuban and Daymond look to get controlling interests in companies so if they can't make them work they can just "flip" them for a profit or, if they can't obtaining a controlling interest, sell off their interest at a profit. Robert, on the other hand, seems like someone who would invest in your idea and try to make it work.

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If Mr. Wonderful shows interest in a business, that means he believes it is a viable, long-term business. He has great contacts and vast experience in negotiating with large corporations on licensing issues.

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My theory has always been that Mr. Wonderful makes awful offers because he doesn't really want to do business, but if they bite, he'll probably work the hardest of them all since now there's more in it for him to profit off of. It's not an accident that probably the most one-sided deal ever made in Shark Tank history (the cupcake in a jar) is the one he crows about the most.

BTW, having read a recent interview with Robert, I'm starting to believe that his offers getting blown off twice in the same show last week despite being the better deals could be some foreshadowing for a future episode. There definitely seemed to be some frustration in his face.