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DthRdrX 09-15-13 11:50 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11836113)
I have to say I think that without a doubt in my mind this has easily skyrocketed to the top two or three shows ever made in my mind. There's two episodes to go obviously before it's all over but I think that this series is about as close to perfection as anything ever has been. There truly will never be anything like it again or if there is I can't see it coming for a long, long time.

This times 100.

I hope this show influences networks to push for similar quality shows going forward but I fear we will get more train wrecks such as what is happening with Dexter. Breaking Bad will probably be one of the high points in the current age of TV.

bluetoast 09-15-13 11:50 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
Whoah. Mass poisoning with the ricin ahead? -wink-

DthRdrX 09-15-13 11:51 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11836120)
Wait. What would have happened had Walt offered to cook in exchange for Hank's life? Sure they made their decision to kill at the outset, but would that have changed anything? Assuming they don't find Jesse that is.

As for Marie's safety, I'm assuming that she, like Skyler, Walt Jr. and Holly (once recovered), will be under protection. Due to the threats and of course because Hank is missing.

He's DEA, and even identified himself as high ranking DEA. He was dead regardless.

DeputyDave 09-15-13 11:52 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
Proud to say I called Jessie being forced to cook. As far as keeping the cook going, $68 million is nice but there is 100x that still left in that tank from the train heist. Very hard to ignore that. You might as well ask a chronic gambler why he doesn't quit the table while he's ahead.

skatefan20 09-15-13 11:57 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by movieking (Post 11835891)
Glad he gave Holly back. Anyone catch what the note said?

Freeze frame upon 2nd viewing showed their address. How considerate, just in case there was more than one Amber Alert.

jeffkjoe 09-15-13 11:59 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 11836131)
Proud to say I called Jessie being forced to cook. As far as keeping the cook going, $68 million is nice but there is 100x that still left in that tank from the train heist. Very hard to ignore that. You might as well ask a chronic gambler why he doesn't quit the table while he's ahead.


*high five*



I knew it would be a showdown. Jesse vs. Walt in the finale. The heat is escalating between the two.

My prediction:

Walt's gonna kill Jesse. Walt's gonna stare at Jesse's dead face and then it's gonna flashback to the season 1 pilot where Jesse questions Walt's intentions to "break bad".

DJariya 09-15-13 11:59 PM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
Someone on Twitter timed the episode without commercials and said it only ran 37 minutes.

Really? It felt longer.

Rypro 525 09-16-13 12:00 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11836117)
The cold open was definitely newly shot footage.

Since scenes are always shot out of order, my guess is that Cranston was wearing a wig and shaved the goatee after filming of the present day scenes wrapped. Aaron Paul was also clean shaven.

does Cranston shave his head every season? as i noticed in some of the 'inside breaking bad' featurettes on the dvds, Cranston has hair & this would be say season 3

Charlie Goose 09-16-13 12:12 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
No exaggeration, no hype, that was the single best hour of television I have ever seen.

DJariya 09-16-13 12:12 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 11836137)
does Cranston shave his head every season? as i noticed in some of the 'inside breaking bad' featurettes on the dvds, Cranston has hair & this would be say season 3

Yes he does. After they wrapped 5A, he grew his hair out. He appeared in public with really spiky looking hair. As I said in a previous thread, the flash forward scenes are his real hair. They are most likely filmed early before he needs to shave his head.

Gizmo 09-16-13 12:13 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11836136)
Someone on Twitter timed the episode without commercials and said it only ran 37 minutes.

Really? It felt longer.

No way.

Poink 09-16-13 12:15 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DeputyDave (Post 11836131)
Proud to say I called Jessie being forced to cook. As far as keeping the cook going, $68 million is nice but there is 100x that still left in that tank from the train heist. Very hard to ignore that. You might as well ask a chronic gambler why he doesn't quit the table while he's ahead.

With Lydia and Madrigal, there's likely a "contract" involved. They pulled a coup d'etat on Declan in order to get what they have up and running. Probably not good business to just brush the whole deal off because of a surprise payday.

Also, we're not entirely sure how big Jack's crew actually is; between the guys involved in the desert incident and the guys in the different prisons, they add up to a pretty decent gang. Depending on the distribution of wealth, this would still be a good score, but totally logical that they'd still want to keep a steady operation going.

JZ1276 09-16-13 12:17 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
The series couldve ended with this episode and it wouldve been perfect (had they wrapped up things with Jessie). They couldve ended with the Nazis paying Jesse to cook for them or something.

Astrofan 09-16-13 12:18 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
First AMC show to use the "F" word? Also RJ Mitte probably got to use the "S" word in more times in a shortest period of any actor on an AMC show. It was also him finally getting to really show his acting ability.

PS, I called that Marie would break the news to Skyler and that Hank was not dead. We all knew Gomez was a goner.

bluetoast 09-16-13 12:18 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11836150)
The series couldve ended with this episode and it wouldve been perfect (had they wrapped up things with Jessie). They couldve ended with the Nazis paying Jesse to cook for them or something.

That wouldn't be in their nature at all though. Their plan (which is different from what will happen, given the nature of this show) is probably to learn the cook and kill him.



Originally Posted by Astrofan (Post 11836151)
First AMC show to use the "F" word?

They've used it a few times before (I.F.T., the one where Mike died) but Mad Men has Pete mutter it in the very first episode.

Astrofan 09-16-13 12:23 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11836153)
That wouldn't be in their nature at all though. Their plan (which is different from what will happen, given the nature of this show) is probably to learn the cook and kill him.




They've used it a few times before (I.F.T., the one where Mike died) but Mad Men has Pete mutter it in the very first episode.

Also, it was a little tweaked as if they tried to mush it up a little?

bluetoast 09-16-13 12:24 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
Yeah, it's muted and I don't think they've aired them uncensored to my knowledge. Netflix does have them say it uncensored.

Bill Needle 09-16-13 12:27 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
Strange that the Nazis would let Walt just up and leave with the $10 million when earlier they were very insistent he help train up Todd to cook for them. They ended up getting Jesse, but they didn't know that then.

The Antipodean 09-16-13 12:30 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 
There was a bit of griping last week about how "long" the shootout was. I rewatched the last 20 mins of that episode before this one and it was all of 40 seconds or so of shooting... which, as we all saw tonight, didn't really end that well for the good guys. The direction on this show is so amazing, the playing with time and perspectives they do.

Astrofan 09-16-13 12:36 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by The Antipodean (Post 11836158)
...which, as we all saw tonight, didn't really end that well for the good guys.

Wait a minute, the Nazi skinheads aren't the good guys?

JZ1276 09-16-13 12:48 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11836136)
Someone on Twitter timed the episode without commercials and said it only ran 37 minutes.

Really? It felt longer.

That's incorrect. It was 47 min.


Originally Posted by Bill Needle (Post 11836157)
Strange that the Nazis would let Walt just up and leave with the $10 million when earlier they were very insistent he help train up Todd to cook for them. They ended up getting Jesse, but they didn't know that then.

Well, why would they even need to continue with meth when they have like $70 million? Thats why I was a little confused at the end when Todd was making Jesse show him how to cook.

Rypro 525 09-16-13 12:49 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 11836145)
Yes he does. After they wrapped 5A, he grew his hair out. He appeared in public with really spiky looking hair. As I said in a previous thread, the flash forward scenes are his real hair. They are most likely filmed early before he needs to shave his head.

ah, as i believe at the oscars, (feb of 2012) he was in full walter white look w out the glasses

bluetoast 09-16-13 01:03 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11836164)
That's incorrect. It was 47 min.



Well, why would they even need to continue with meth when they have like $70 million? Thats why I was a little confused at the end when Todd was making Jesse show him how to cook.

Since it's not just those guys it's more of a gang thing. They want to keep raking in money, have a long reach, with the prison contacts, connections and a steady stream of money. Plus they had already made a deal with Lydia, and Todd still wants to impress her. They're probably in the "empire business" as well, just using different methods.

DJariya 09-16-13 01:10 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11836164)
That's incorrect. It was 47 min.

I thought so. The person who made the comment was a DP (Director of photography) for 24.

johnnysd 09-16-13 01:19 AM

Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 11836023)
That was the most intense hour of TV I've ever seen. Here's my thoughts...

I don't see how anyone can be siding against Walt. He was desperate, thought he was dying and everything he did, he did for his family. Even after Skylar pulled a knife on him and Flynn goes against him (which to me was a little hard to believe how fast he turned), he still calls the house well knowing the police are there & listening & makes it a point to say Skylar knew nothing about his actions that way she wont be held accountable. Also, he tried making amends with Jessie, but Jessie thought Walt was setting him up in last weeks episode when he went to meet him. It wasnt until Jessie called him threatening to go after him making Walt feel his family was in danger & turned on Jessie. After all Hank has done to try to bring Walt down, Walt STILL begged and pleaded for his life and offered $80 MILLION to not kill him. I believe Walt acted in haste taking Holly and realized he had made a mistake when she kept calling out for her mother which is why he left her at the fire station. Anyway, Walt got screwed every which way by EVERYONE, but his intentions were always on taking care of his family when he was gone.

BTW, just finished watching Talking Bad and there was speculation as to why Walt took Holly. Seemed pretty clear to me. Skylar & Walt Jr. both turned against him. All Walt cared about was his family. He took Holly trying to salvage whatever was left of his family, not to be evil, and not to spite Skylar.

How can anyone be FOR Walt? He is truly evil. Also, Walt took Holly specifically to make sure the police were there when he called in to try and exonerate her. He never ever intended to truly take her.


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