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outcastja 09-14-13 04:05 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 
Since this show started, I always thought the last season of the show would be about Dexter finally getting exposed and his run from the law, it's so disappointing how things have turned out.

Blaster1 09-14-13 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11833896)
Pretty much. This season essentially has just amounted to nothing and is like the writers are just going through the motions and riding it out until it's over. There was so much stuff that they could have built off of from last season and plus the stuff they started this season but it's like the writers just said "fuck it, it's the last season we don't care anymore." It sucks because before this season I would have said this is one of my favorite series but now I dunno. I still like the show's earlier seasons but this last season has left a really bad taste.

I'm with you. I enjoyed the show overall and was looking forward to this season so much, but damn. How bad do you have to be to write this garbage in a final season of Dexter. It damn near writes itself so it makes me think they are writing it bad intentionally. Pretty much everything is bad this season though. The camera work, the acting, the sound work, and the writing. Go watch some clips from the first season and look at the difference. It only makes it worse when I watch the final season of Breaking Bad immediately after which is a show that is delivering in it's final season. And bluetoast, have they even mentioned Dexter's mother since season 3 or 4? Seems like the end of season 4 is when stuff stopped mattering on this show. How bad is it that they feel the need to try to rewrite his history in the final season with Dr. Vogel though? It was pointless and unneeded.

Neil M. 09-14-13 10:38 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by outcastja (Post 11833961)
Since this show started, I always thought the last season of the show would be about Dexter finally getting exposed and his run from the law, it's so disappointing how things have turned out.

I think that would have worked for season 5 but would be laughable for season 8. He's managed to avoid capture so many times in so many ridiculous ways. At this point, that is the last ending I would want to see for season 8.

anomynous 09-14-13 10:47 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 
Keep in mind, An-hel has/had all the evidence La Guerta had against Dex & Deb, and decides to not look at it just because.

He probabky lost La Pasion for being a detective.

Vipper II 09-14-13 11:09 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Blaster1 (Post 11833895)
It's so crazy to think about all the wasted plotlines this season. Remember when Deb was a druggie? When she blacked out and killed someone? How she tried to kill Dexter? How all of this was forgotten within a couple of episodes? Remember how earlier in the season Dexter said he couldn't live without Deb when she tried to get away from him, but now he told her to go screw herself because he has Hannah and is going to Argentina? Remember Quinn trying to become Sergeant only for the black detective to get it instead and then disappear totally from the show? Remember how Batista wanted to come back to the police force to catch Laguerta's killer? Does anything that happens this season matter?

It's almost blown Rescue Me completely out of the water as far as dropped story lines are concerned, and that is no easy accomplishment.

Neil M. 09-14-13 11:13 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 11834119)
Keep in mind, An-hel has/had all the evidence La Guerta had against Dex & Deb, and decides to not look at it just because.

He probabky lost La Pasion for being a detective.

He thought her theory was nonsense so it sort of makes sense that he wouldn't look at the evidence.

Mike86 09-14-13 11:20 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11834149)
He thought her theory was nonsense so it sort of makes sense that he wouldn't look at the evidence.

Still though if someone accused a person of being a serial killer in real life and a few weeks later they conveniently wind up dead you'd think that a good detective would at least give the accused person a second look.

taffer 09-14-13 12:23 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 
Its even more absurd when you remember that Doakes was investigating Dexter, and Doakes ended up dead. LaGuerta always believed Doakes was framed, and then when she starts investigating Dexter she ends up dead too.

Two people who were investigating Dexter both end up dead, and the police just think this is a coincidence?

Then there is also Dexter's wife Rita, who the police know was killed by the Trinity serial killer. Alone it does seem like Rita could have been a random victim, but when placed along with those other two clues it doesn't seem so random.

Speaking of Rita, I wonder if we will see Astor and Cody again before the series ends?

Neil M. 09-14-13 12:31 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11834153)
Still though if someone accused a person of being a serial killer in real life and a few weeks later they conveniently wind up dead you'd think that a good detective would at least give the accused person a second look.

True in most cases but not if your judgement is clouded by friendship.

Neil M. 09-14-13 12:45 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11834204)
Its even more absurd when you remember that Doakes was investigating Dexter, and Doakes ended up dead. LaGuerta always believed Doakes was framed, and then when she starts investigating Dexter she ends up dead too.

Two people who were investigating Dexter both end up dead, and the police just think this is a coincidence?

In both cases, the evidence pointed away from Dexter so it's not really absurd.

taffer 09-14-13 01:00 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11834230)
In both cases, the evidence pointed away from Dexter so it's not really absurd.

Yes, but LaGuerta always believed Doakes was framed, and she never found trouble until she started investigating Dexter, just like Doakes did. Its enough to cast doubt on the evidence since they both ended up dead in very similar situations.

And heck, there was a scene where LaGuerta took her evidence to Captain Matthews. Matthews said it was very flimsy, but it was enough that he let her quietly investigate Dexter. So at least Matthews should be able to put two and two together with both Doakes and LaGuerta and realize that there is more than meets the eye going on with their deaths.

majorjoe23 09-14-13 01:30 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11834204)
Its even more absurd when you remember that Doakes was investigating Dexter, and Doakes ended up dead. LaGuerta always believed Doakes was framed, and then when she starts investigating Dexter she ends up dead too.

Two people who were investigating Dexter both end up dead, and the police just think this is a coincidence?

Then there is also Dexter's wife Rita, who the police know was killed by the Trinity serial killer. Alone it does seem like Rita could have been a random victim, but when placed along with those other two clues it doesn't seem so random.

Speaking of Rita, I wonder if we will see Astor and Cody again before the series ends?

In the last episode Dexter did say visiting them was on his list of things to do before leaving town.

stopgap 09-14-13 02:21 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Blaster1 (Post 11833895)
It's so crazy to think about all the wasted plotlines this season. Remember when Deb was a druggie? When she blacked out and killed someone? How she tried to kill Dexter? How all of this was forgotten within a couple of episodes? Remember how earlier in the season Dexter said he couldn't live without Deb when she tried to get away from him, but now he told her to go screw herself because he has Hannah and is going to Argentina? Remember Quinn trying to become Sergeant only for the black detective to get it instead and then disappear totally from the show? Remember how Batista wanted to come back to the police force to catch Laguerta's killer? Does anything that happens this season matter?

lol.. It's Dexter man. Just go with it.

dhmac 09-14-13 02:26 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Blaster1 (Post 11834062)
It only makes it worse when I watch the final season of Breaking Bad immediately after which is a show that is delivering in it's final season.

Yeah, watching the week's episode of Dexter before watching that week's Breaking Bad is almost essential. Because watching them the other way around, it would be near impossible to pay attention to what is happening with Dexter in the after-effects of seeing what happened with Walter White/Heisenberg this week.

stopgap 09-14-13 03:25 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Sigh (Post 11834396)
I totally forgot about her. Oh god, why do I keep watching such a piece of shit?

Because you need closure.

oh, and F you Lost.

may want to edit and say I got the sarcasm

Bill Needle 09-14-13 06:06 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by taffer (Post 11834204)
Its even more absurd when you remember that Doakes was investigating Dexter, and Doakes ended up dead. LaGuerta always believed Doakes was framed, and then when she starts investigating Dexter she ends up dead too.

Quinn hired a guy to investigate Dexter. Wait for it...

Dead

Mike86 09-14-13 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind (Post 11834398)
So that treadmill GIF is the first footage that I've ever seen of this show and it's cheesy as hell. I own every season on BD. Maybe I should sell them off and not bother.

I would say it's solid the first four seasons (some will say season three wasn't that good but it isn't that bad in my opinion), then it kind of got rocky after that point. Season five was just kind of average but it also had a lot to live up to coming off of season four which which was arguably it's best season. Season six a lot of people seemed to hate but I didn't find it that bad, just pretty predictable. Season seven was overall pretty strong and probably the best since the fourth and it really seemed like it was setting up a strong way to close out the series with the eighth season but unfortunately that really didn't happen. Season eight is the worst season easily.

If I were ranking them I'd go:
1) Season Four
2) Season One
3) Season Two
4) Season Seven
5) Season Three
6) Season Five
7) Season Six
8) Season Eight

Neil M. 09-14-13 07:42 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Bill Needle (Post 11834562)
Quinn hired a guy to investigate Dexter. Wait for it...

Dead

Lem and Young Indy better back the fuck off or they're next.

bluetoast 09-14-13 07:58 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11834648)
Lem and Young Indy better back the fuck off or they're next.

I want to episodes of this season of this edited with "JUST ANOTHER DAAAAAY" blaring in the middle of a random scene.

Josh-da-man 09-14-13 09:46 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 
Close enough, though fixed and clarified...


Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11834616)
If I were ranking them I'd go:
1) Season Four
2) Season One
3) Season Two
4) Season Seven

5) Season Three
6) Season Five
7) Season Six

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anomynous 09-14-13 10:14 PM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Blaster1 (Post 11833895)
It's so crazy to think about all the wasted plotlines this season. Remember when Deb was a druggie? When she blacked out and killed someone? How she tried to kill Dexter? How all of this was forgotten within a couple of episodes? Remember how earlier in the season Dexter said he couldn't live without Deb when she tried to get away from him, but now he told her to go screw herself because he has Hannah and is going to Argentina? Remember Quinn trying to become Sergeant only for the black detective to get it instead and then disappear totally from the show? Remember how Batista wanted to come back to the police force to catch Laguerta's killer? Does anything that happens this season matter?

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philo 09-15-13 03:21 AM

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I never got that whole thing about Deb shooting the guy in the car. Didn't he take her gun after beating her up?

Blaster1 nails it though with all the dropped narratives on this show. It's been a mess for years. The season with Lumen was the last one I actually cared at all what happened.

Goat3001 09-15-13 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11834616)
Season eight is the worst season easily.

If I were ranking them I'd go:
1) Season Four
2) Season One
3) Season Two
4) Season Seven
5) Season Three
6) Season Five
7) Season Six
8) Season Eight

I actually think Season Six is worse than Eight. I think we hate it so much because this is the last season and we expected so much more. Which is fair but I still think season 6 was worse. Absolutely the worst the villain with the most predictable twist. There was nothing good about the season until the very end where Deb finds Dexter. At least this season had a few good episodes early and a pretty good villain.

In the end this will go down as a show that just held on for too long. It happens so much these days and it sucks. Makes you really appreciate what AMC is doing with Breaking Bad by letting them tell their story and not forcing them to drag it out. It sucks because Dexter is a great, interesting character but the writers just couldn't keep him interesting for 8 seasons.

Season Five should have been the last season. The story would have to change of course. Maybe Dexter doesn't get Trinity at the end of season 4 and they make him the big bad for season 5 too. Dexter's obsession with getting Trinity leads to his ultimate demise.

Coral 09-15-13 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 11835001)
I actually think Season Six is worse than Eight. I think we hate it so much because this is the last season and we expected so much more. Which is fair but I still think season 6 was worse. Absolutely the worst the villain with the most predictable twist. There was nothing good about the season until the very end where Deb finds Dexter. At least this season had a few good episodes early and a pretty good villain.

Agreed. S6 was the worst from so many aspects. All it had going for it was the 30 seconds in which Deb witnesses Dexter.

S7 was ok simply because Deb finds out Dexter's a serial killer (even though it looked like they may have passed it off the killing as a one-off, which would've pissed me off). It was good in that we had to see Deb deal with it and then the season ended on a very dark note - which felt right.

S8 started off decent as it was going dark with Deb's character. She hates Dexter and her morals were messed up, plus someone else knew about Harry's code. Based on that and the fact it was the last season, I had much hope for it. Then as mentioned earlier, they threw in these stupid plotlines, they did stuff and just swept them under the rug, etc. Deb turned back way too quickly and it just became another poorly written season of Dexter that didn't feel like it was the final season.

Mike86 09-15-13 11:00 AM

Re: Dexter -- "Goodbye Miami" -- 9/08/13
 

Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 11835001)
I actually think Season Six is worse than Eight. I think we hate it so much because this is the last season and we expected so much more. Which is fair but I still think season 6 was worse. Absolutely the worst the villain with the most predictable twist. There was nothing good about the season until the very end where Deb finds Dexter. At least this season had a few good episodes early and a pretty good villain.

I dunno I really didn't find season six to be all that bad I guess. It wasn't great by any means and not the best season at all but it was better than this season. I liked the parts with Brother Sam and the return of Brian was kind of interesting. I also thought some of the kills by Travis were kind of original and the finale gave fans what we wanted (maybe too late but still).

The worst aspects of season six to me were the villain and the twist being predictable and Deb confessing her love to Dexter. That actually in my opinion is the worst thing that the show has ever done and was beyond stupid. Glad that storyline basically got dropped.


In the end this will go down as a show that just held on for too long. It happens so much these days and it sucks. Makes you really appreciate what AMC is doing with Breaking Bad by letting them tell their story and not forcing them to drag it out. It sucks because Dexter is a great, interesting character but the writers just couldn't keep him interesting for 8 seasons.

Season Five should have been the last season. The story would have to change of course. Maybe Dexter doesn't get Trinity at the end of season 4 and they make him the big bad for season 5 too. Dexter's obsession with getting Trinity leads to his ultimate demise.
This part I agree with. I always thought Dexter should have been a show that went five, maybe six seasons tops. To me it seems like six would have been about right. After season four I would have had Dexter's meltdown after the death of Rita and go out of control a bit and get sloppy and more Bay Harbor Butcher type evidence starting to have turned up. I would have had Deb find out about him in season five and then the final season would deal with that plus the re-opening of the Bay Harbor Butcher case to end the show.


Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11835030)
S8 started off decent as it was going dark with Deb's character. She hates Dexter and her morals were messed up, plus someone else knew about Harry's code. Based on that and the fact it was the last season, I had much hope for it. Then as mentioned earlier, they threw in these stupid plotlines, they did stuff and just swept them under the rug, etc. Deb turned back way too quickly and it just became another poorly written season of Dexter that didn't feel like it was the final season.

I agree that season eight started out with some potential. I actually kind of liked the idea at first that Vogel was a part of creating Harry's code and thought there could have been some interesting storylines that could have come out of that but nope we didn't really get anything. Also I will give some credit to Jennifer Carpenter, she started off with some pretty strong acting in my opinion with how she was playing a very damaged Deb. Sloppy writing has just killed this season though. I think I liked the season at first until I started to realize, wait the season's half over and they still haven't touched on all this stuff they built up on. Now it's two episodes left and we pretty much know that probably a ton of loose ends will remain when the series is over which sucks as a fan of the show.


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