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Old 09-09-13 | 08:56 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by Rypro 525
see i still think they intentionally didn't show anyone getting hit to make us all wait to see what happens next week
You think people will tune out with 3 episodes left of the Series?
Old 09-09-13 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by Raul3
It's clear that Hank is dead. They didn't have that scene of him calling Marie just because. That was their goodbye.

But yeah, Hank and Gomez are gone. Walt and Jesse survive. Jesse is the second most important character after Walt, he needs to stay until the end.

I really hope they don't start next week episode with flash forward.
I don't think Hank's dead. And Maria was told so she could call Skyler and break the news, which will trigger action in her.
Old 09-09-13 | 08:58 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

I agree with the others who disliked the shootout. It was cringeworthy how there were like 6 of them, firing at the two of them out in the open and no one got a hit? Even the dude with the Saiga 12 automatic shotgun? Seriously?
Old 09-09-13 | 09:11 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

How many rounds of ammo would Hank and Gomez have had?
Old 09-09-13 | 09:12 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by flashburn
I agree with the others who disliked the shootout. It was cringeworthy how there were like 6 of them, firing at the two of them out in the open and no one got a hit? Even the dude with the Saiga 12 automatic shotgun? Seriously?
Did you look at the pic Kal posted? Everyone in that shootout had easy access to cover. And it looked like Gomez was hit. Wish I had a screen cap of him taking cover, I think he had blood on his shirt.

Awesome ep. I'm thinking they have to kill either Gomez or Hank in that shootout. So excited for next week!
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As for the outcome of the shootout, who knows how that will end up. Obviously Walt survives, and I'd imagine Jesse does as well. I don't think Hank is going to get killed in the actual shootout. That would have happened in this episode if that were the case. The location is where this entire misadventure started for Walt and Jesse, and that has to have some importance.

I don't think Hank's dead either. The writers would not start an episode with such an epic moment as Hank's death. It would have been much more powerful to show Hank getting the bullet tonight and then fade to credits.

I imagine Hank will grab Walt and put a gun to his head. That will cease the shootout and then Walt pleads for Hank's life.

Cranston gave a great tease saying the finale would be even more exciting with lots of action. I think last night was the best episode of the series for me.
Old 09-09-13 | 09:31 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32
I imagine Hank will grab Walt and put a gun to his head.
I believe you are right.
Old 09-09-13 | 09:34 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

My crazy prediction:

Gomez gets killed in this shootout, and Jessie gets away. Walt manages to save Hank's life, which eventually leads to the two being on the same side in the final showdown, during which (or immediately after), Jessie caps Walter.
Old 09-09-13 | 09:34 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by dvdjunkie32
I imagine Hank will grab Walt and put a gun to his head. That will cease the shootout and then Walt pleads for Hank's life.
This makes the most sense to me. Todd's crew needs Walt. Hank doesn't know/understand that yet, but he probably figured out that Walt called those guys to save him.

Also... of COURSE they didn't show anyone get shot in the gunfight! I knew that'd be the case as soon as the trucks appeared in the rear view mirror. I actually figured the episode would end right before or immediately after the first shot was fired by hillbilly #2.

Great episode! They didn't confirm that Jesse, Hank, and Gomez have a tape of Walt admitting to a bunch of things, but it would be crazy and short-sighted if those guys didn't record that conversation. I think the tape is on Hank, though. Or at least, in the near vicinity of where the shootout occurs.
Old 09-09-13 | 09:37 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

One thing that Walt has said repeatedly this season is that Jessie is just as good of a cook as him. Whether that is true or just being said to make Jessie feel better is beside the point. The Nazis only need one of them to cook.

What if the big gun in the flash forward is not just to get revenge on the Nazis but to free Jessie who has been "enslaved" to cook meth?
Old 09-09-13 | 09:41 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by DeputyDave
One thing that Walt has said repeatedly this season is that Jessie is just as good of a cook as him. Whether that is true or just being said to make Jessie feel better is besides the point.
Well, we know he's just as good from when he went down to Mexico to cook for the cartel. Compare to Bobo Matt Damon, who tries his best but can't quite produce a great product on his own.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
The shootout definitely came off a little hokey, especially since those guys appeared to have Hank and Gomez in their sights. At least some wounds before ending the episode to either side would have made it look a little better.

Loved everything else though, was obvious what was happening to Walt to me as soon as he started driving.
Yeah, it was a really good episode overall, but that scene could have been filmed much better. Especially as you guys pointed out, we saw that same team quickly dismantle the other meth crew earlier this season. It would have been better if they showed Hank and Gomez duck and bolt for cover before Jack and co. started shooting at them. I also wish they would have resolved the shoot out instead of making it a cliff hanger.

This episode was basically how I imagined things playing out, except for the shootout at the end. I figured the white power guys would demand Walt cook for them in exchange for the hit on Jessie, but I thought Hank, Gomez, and Jessie would have backed off and caught him in the act somehow. Tricking Walt with the picture was good, but I didn't like how quickly Huele (sp?) caved to Hank. I always thought he was a little more savvy than that and would have just kept his mouth shut.

Things are really in motion now though - it's amazing how the writers can advance the story so much each episode but still leave so many different paths to resolution. Now they have Walt's confession on tape (presumably), and everyone knows where is money is. Really excited to see what happens next. Will they really kill off Hank and Jessie in the 3rd to last episode?
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Would Walt's confession be admissible in court?
Old 09-09-13 | 09:59 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Would Walt's confession be admissible in court?
He gave it freely so most likely.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Of course people are going to show up for the last 3 episodes, it still doesn't mean they aren't going for dramatic effect. We really don't know anything that happened due to the gun fight so it builds anticipation. That being said, I thought I saw Gomez get hit as well, but it could just be my mind playing tricks on me.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by emanon
What color was the paint?
My thought as well. I don't think it was purple though, I would have remembered that.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by Nausicaa
everyone knows where is money is.
Just Jesse, Hank & Gomie. The Nazis don;t know why they were there, do they?
Old 09-09-13 | 10:14 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by Goat3001
I think the job mission for white supremacists has changed. The last thing Walt said to them was that the deal was off. I don't think they ran down to the desert looking to kill Jesse and hope that Walt would show his gratitude by cooking for them. I think their plan was to go down there, take control of the situation, and kidnap Jesse and Walt. Force them to work together again.
Good point. Their main interest is getting Walt to cook for them. They don't give a crap who dies to get that to happen. Walt saying the hit is off means he won't be cooking for them either. So they decide to fulfill their end and Walt will have to keep his, one way or another.
Old 09-09-13 | 10:15 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by RoyalTea
Something tells me the show skips ahead to the flashforward timeline.
Same guess. Next episode will start with the shootout, then we flash forward.

Originally Posted by Bill Needle
The gunfight was ridiculous.

I love the show, and the rest of this episode even.

But the gunfight was ridiculous. I'm talking A-Team ridiculous.
EXACTLY what I was thinking. Total A-Team shootout. The scene needed to be shot (no pun intended) much better to show all the available cover everyone is talking about. As it was shot (no pun intended), it appeared that Hank and Gomez were standing out in the open while 6-7 guys pumped a boatload of rounds into the dirt around them. It looked ridiculous.

Oh, and all that complaining about the shootout aside, these 5 episodes have been my favorite 5 episodes of any television show, ever. I've always thought Breaking Bad is a great show, but this season has vaulted it into my top 3. Vince Gilligan and company have shown amazing control and skill.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by emanon
What color was the paint?
Old 09-09-13 | 10:22 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by VitiminJ
Just Jesse, Hank & Gomie. The Nazis don;t know why they were there, do they?
You are correct. If Hank and Gomie eat it, just Walt and Jessie know. If Hank survives, he won't be telling the guys trying to kill him.

That said, I agree that next episode:
Spoiler:
Hank bargains his way out of the shootout using Walt. This seems to fit so well that I consider it a spoiler.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

How much money did Walter White bury?
(yes i know this is a stupid calculation, but I couldn’t stop wondering)

Saul’s bodyguard Huell said he gave Walt all his money stacked in seven 55 gallon barrels he bought at Home Depot.

7 barrels x 55 gallons = 1,457,383.54 cubic cm

A bill is 6.6294 cm wide x 15.5956 cm long x0.010922 cm thick = 1.12921979833008 cubic cm

# of bills = 1,457,383.54 / 1.12921979833008 = 1,290,611 bills

This is of course if the bills filled every bit of space in the barrels, but we can see that’s not true from the picture above. I’m going to guess a packing density of 90%, which would be 1,161,550 bills.

If all the bills were $100 bills, this would mean Walt has amassed about $116 million dollars.

However,from the picture above you can see that the bill types vary. I see a bunch of stacks of $50 bills, and bunch of $20s. The guess on denomination mix is obviously going to create the most variance on final answer. My best guess at the mix from the picture above is that it is half 50s and half 20s, which adds up to $40.65 million dollars.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Originally Posted by VitiminJ
Just Jesse, Hank & Gomie. The Nazis don;t know why they were there, do they?
No, they don't, I'm just thinking it's not too hard to figure out, especially if someone says something during next weeks episode. Regardless that spot is WAY compromised now.

I agree with malichai, this season has been everything I could have hoped for so far.
Old 09-09-13 | 10:49 AM
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

Going forward, who is the most expendable out of all of the BB characters?

Gomez.

So long, Gomez. You had a good run.
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Re: Breaking Bad-- To'hajiilee -- 9/8/13

So Hank uses Walt as a shield to stop the shootout

They take Hank, Walt, and Jesse to the cooksit

Marie figures out what happened after learning of Gomez murder and Hank missing.

In a fit of rage Marie confronts Skylar exposing the secrets to Walt Jr in the process.


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