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Old 09-06-12, 12:53 PM
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the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart


aka DVDTalk's annual "who the fuck are these people?" awards show! The show is on Thursday so it doesn't go against Sunday night football, and on at 8pm so it doesn't go against the President Obama DNC speech at 10pm although it certainly will go over.

Pre show starts at 7pm
performances
Preshow
Calvin Harris
Demi Lovato

Main show
Rihanna (featuring ASAP Rocky and Calvin Harris)
Green Day
Alicia Keys
Nicki Minaj
Frank Ocean
Lil Wayne
One Direction
P!nk
Taylor Swift
2 Chainz

Presenters
Miley Cyrus
The Fierce Five (Aly Raisman, Gabby Douglas, Jordyn Wieber, Kyla Ross and McKayla Maroney)
Rashida Jones
Ke$ha
Wiz Khalifa
Demi Lovato
Mac Miller
Katy Perry
Psy
Andy Samberg
The Wanted
2 Chainz

Awards
Video of the Year
Drake (featuring Rihanna) — "Take Care"
Gotye (featuring Kimbra) — "Somebody That I Used to Know"
M.I.A. — "Bad Girls"
Katy Perry — "Wide Awake"
Rihanna (featuring Calvin Harris) — "We Found Love"

Best Male Video
Justin Bieber — "Boyfriend"
Chris Brown — "Turn Up the Music"
Drake (featuring Rihanna) — "Take Care"
Frank Ocean — "Swim Good"
Usher — "Climax"

Best Female Video
Beyoncι — "Love on Top"
Selena Gomez & the Scene — "Love You Like a Love Song"
Nicki Minaj — "Starships"
Katy Perry — "Part of Me"
Rihanna (featuring Calvin Harris) — "We Found Love"

Best New Artist
fun. (featuring Janelle Monαe) — "We Are Young"
Carly Rae Jepsen — "Call Me Maybe"
Frank Ocean — "Swim Good"
One Direction — "What Makes You Beautiful"
The Wanted — "Glad You Came"

Best Pop Video
Justin Bieber — "Boyfriend"
fun. (featuring Janelle Monαe) — "We Are Young"
Maroon 5 (featuring Wiz Khalifa) — "Payphone"
One Direction — "What Makes You Beautiful"
Rihanna (featuring Calvin Harris) — "We Found Love"

Best Rock Video
The Black Keys — "Lonely Boy"
Coldplay — "Paradise"
Imagine Dragons — "It's Time"
Linkin Park — "Burn It Down"
Jack White — "Sixteen Saltines"

Best Hip-Hop Video
Childish Gambino — "Heartbeat"
Drake (featuring Lil Wayne) — "HYFR"
Jay-Z and Kanye West — "Paris"
Nicki Minaj (featuring 2 Chainz) — "Beez in the Trap"
Kanye West (featuring Pusha T, Big Sean and 2 Chainz) — "Mercy"

Best Electronic Dance Music Video
Avicii — "Levels"
Duck Sauce — "Big Bad Wolf"
Calvin Harris — "Feel So Close"
Skrillex — "First of the Year (Equinox)"
Martin Solveig — "The Night Out"

Best Video with a Message
Kelly Clarkson — "Dark Side"
Gym Class Heroes (featuring Ryan Tedder) — "The Fighter"
K'naan (featuring Nelly Furtado) — "Is Anybody Out There?"
Lil Wayne — "How to Love"
Demi Lovato — "Skyscraper"
Rise Against — "Ballad of Hollis Brown"

Most Share-Worthy Video
Beyoncι — "Countdown"
Justin Bieber — "Boyfriend"
Gotye (featuring Kimbra) — "Somebody That I Used to Know"
Carly Rae Jepsen — "Call Me Maybe"
One Direction — "What Makes You Beautiful"
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

I was under the impression the time changed to 7pm to not interfere with Obama's speech tonight?
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
I was under the impression the time changed to 7pm to not interfere with Obama's speech tonight?
7pm is the preshow (my time) its set to run 8-10 but w all the shit they have to cram in, i'm 95% sure it will go long
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aka DVDTalk's annual "who the fuck are these people?" awards show!
I couldn't even get through the thread title without seeing a name that doesn't ring a bell. I assume this Kevin Hart is the actor/comedian, not the baseball player, poet, or painter.
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I remember when this show used to be a big deal to me. I'm an old head now, and so it doesn't hold much appeal, but they have been hyping Kanye up a bunch in the promos so I'll record it just to see what he does.
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Best Video With A Message? Most Share-Worthy Video?

WTF? Why don't they just go all the way and give out the MOST L337 VIDEO EVA! award?
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Cause MTV still plays music videos right?
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The nominations don't even make sense. So e of the videos of the year aren't even up for their respective gender's awards
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Kevin Hart is brutally unfunny
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Originally Posted by Rypro 525
Most Share-Worthy Video
Beyoncι — "Countdown"
Justin Bieber — "Boyfriend"
Gotye (featuring Kimbra) — "Somebody That I Used to Know"
Carly Rae Jepsen — "Call Me Maybe"
One Direction — "What Makes You Beautiful"
Meanwhile, PONPONPON has 33 million views on YouTube through pure word of mouth and social network sharing.

MTV. Out of touch as usual.
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Rock 'n Roll is fucking dead and buried. Jesus fucking nailed and bleeding Christ.
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

This is NOT just about me being too old and out of touch at 42. My dad listened to Warren Zevon and my mother had The Who, Elton, The Eagles and all the Beatles records. AC/DC was my first concert at 13.

I loved the stuff my parents listened to. It's still great music. I loved the stuff I grew up on through maybe the mid-90's and then the direction started to shift and now it's fallen off of a cliff.

I like good pop music. I'll listen to some Katy Perry and I might even go see her if someone else paid for the tickets. Mostly 'cause she's hot.

But most of that stuff really just seems like junk and really junk, not stuff I think is junk because I don't get what it's like to be 13. My oldest girl who's 8 loves Taylor Swift, but she doesn't even think Justin Bieber's cute. She actually has a Foo Fighters poster over her desk.

I've also never heard of the host. I do know this must still be a big deal to celebrities because Emma Watson was on a quick break from filming in Iceland and was in NYC to do Letterman and then said she was flying straight to LA to be at these awards.
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Originally Posted by WeylandYutani
Rock 'n Roll is fucking dead and buried. Jesus fucking nailed and bleeding Christ.
MTV VMA 20 years ago:

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In the 1992 show, MTV requested Nirvana perform "Smells Like Teen Spirit", while the band itself had indicated it preferred to play new songs "Rape Me" and "tourette's". Network executives continued to push for "Teen Spirit" but finally offered the band a choice to play either "Teen Spirit" or "Lithium", which the band appeared to accept. At the performance, Nirvana began to play, and Kurt Cobain sang the first few lines of the song, "Rape Me", much to the horror of MTV execs, before continuing their regular performance of "Lithium". Near the end of the song, frustrated that his amp had stopped functioning, bassist Krist Novoselic decided to toss his bass into the air for dramatic effect. He misjudged the landing, and the bass ended up bouncing off of his forehead, forcing him to stumble off the stage in a daze.

Backstage, before the show, Guns N' Roses vocalist Axl Rose challenged Cobain to a fight after he, his wife and Hole frontwoman, Courtney Love, and Nirvana bandmates Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl, egged him on. At the end of Nirvana's performance, while Cobain was trashing the band's equipment, Dave Grohl ran to the microphone and shouted "Hi, Axl! Where's Axl?" repeatedly. Guns N' Roses' video for the ballad "November Rain" won the MTV Video Music Award for best cinematography. During the show, the band performed "November Rain" with singer Elton John. Because of the dispute Rose had with Cobain, moments before the "November Rain" performance, Cobain spat on the keys of what he thought was Axl's piano. Cobain later revealed that he was shocked to see Elton John play on the piano he had spat on. During the commercial break, the Alien 3 Pepsi commercial was shown.

Radio shock-jock Howard Stern appeared as Fartman, Stern's radio super-hero. Stern was a presenter for best hard rock/metal performance with actor Luke Perry (after several other celebrities turned him down).
Now that's an awards show.

Winners that year included:

Nirvana
Van Halen
Eric Clapton
Annie Lennox
Metallica
U2
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Prince
Queen
Guns N' Roses
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Who was nominated for rap (Hip-Hop) video that year?
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Who was nominated for rap (Hip-Hop) video that year?
Best Rap Video

Winner: Arrested Development — "Tennessee"
Black Sheep — "The Choice Is Yours (Revisited)"
Kris Kross — "Jump"
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch — "Good Vibrations"
Sir Mix-a-Lot — "Baby Got Back"
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Also surprising is that they had cinematography awards then. These days 100% of the credit for the visual media probably goes to the artist, maybe one award in the whole night goes to a director of any kind.
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

True. There were awards for:

Best Direction
Best Choreography
Best Special Effects
Best Art Direction
Best Editing
Best Cinematography

None of these went to the artists, but instead to the people who actually make the videos. Now we get banal garbage like "Best Video with a Message." The dumbing down continues.
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This Sway guy has been working at MTV for a long time, right? What does he do in between the movie and music award shows?
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Also surprising is that they had cinematography awards then. These days 100% of the credit for the visual media probably goes to the artist, maybe one award in the whole night goes to a director of any kind.
But you get why that is. The people who watch these awards are watching to see their favorite celebrities/artists -- not the directors of videos or choreographers. Unless the director/choreographer is a celebrity or artist.

It's not just that the VMAs are targeted towards a young audience, but it's towards a very specific type of young audience. I think if you're watching this show, and you're older than 25, you're getting what you deserve. There are no surprises with what this show has turned into, because it has been this way for a decade now? I ffwd through the show just out of morbid curiosity, but I'm hyper aware that this show is not for me. At all.
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Originally Posted by dino88
This Sway guy has been working at MTV for a long time, right? What does he do in between the movie and music award shows?
He's been doing radio for years out on the West Coast and he now has a morning show on Shady 45 on XM/Sirius.
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

When I was a teen to early 20's, this was the must see event of the year for me. Now, I barely watched 15 minutes of the show. I know i'm way past the age limit to enjoy it now and i'm ok with it.
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He's been doing radio for years out on the West Coast and he now has a morning show on Shady 45 on XM/Sirius.
Does he do anything else at MTV besides the award shows? I guess they don't really have a need for VJs anymore.
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Originally Posted by dino88
Does he do anything else at MTV besides the award shows? I guess they don't really have a need for VJs anymore.
He hosts a show that I think is ran on MTV's website that focuses on interviewing hiphop acts. They run chunks of it on MTV Jams from time to time.

Originally Posted by Sonny Corinthos
When I was a teen to early 20's, this was the must see event of the year for me. Now, I barely watched 15 minutes of the show. I know i'm way past the age limit to enjoy it now and i'm ok with it.
What I'm more amazing by is that the MTV Movie Awards used to be must see for me. I still have fond memories of the spoofs Stiller and Garofalo would do.
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Re: the 2012 MTV Video Music Awards-- 09/06/12 -- 8pm -- Host Kevin Hart

Originally Posted by dino88
Does he do anything else at MTV besides the award shows? I guess they don't really have a need for VJs anymore.
they drag Sway out anytime there's need for MTV to debut a pop stars music video (SEE THEY DO PLAY VIDEOS!!!) last one was for Taylor Swifts new one


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