5 weeks in a row and Groucho finally gets a laugh out of that.

I don’t think the well “rescue” scene was all that silly. I may not follow the logic they used but I could see someone else doing it without too much of a stretch. The well was used only for the livestock. The zombie had been down there for a long time. You could surmise that the zombie itself had not “infected” the water as far as animal use is concerned. Blood, brains, and zombie guts would probably be another story. Considering water is so vital to life, even the chance of preserving a well is worth the chance.

No.
Just my opinion.
There's even zombies in the woods. And with your logic, why are there still a bunch of zombies at the school? There's no more food there, except for poor Otis. The shopping area is probably the heart of the town. If there's zombies still hanging by the school, then there should be a few zombies nearby. Unless, of course, you want a few characters to have sex without any zombie interruption.

If I'm in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, I'm taking everything I can to survive. Why risk constant exposure by going back and forth to the pharmacy? I am going to make the big assumption that I and whomever I am with are the last of the normals.

They just do really dumb things. Why worry about the well water when they could have driven that Arrowhead truck back to the farm? Why are they constantly bitching about fuel consumption when they had a whole freeway full of cars to siphon from? Why not take any of the other large vehicles they come across instead of always having to repair the mobile home?

You could also make the argument that you don't want to weigh yourself down by taking too much stuff. Besides, why take more than you need when there are others who might need things as well? It's obvious that others who have visited that pharmacy also only took what they needed. Why be the asshole?

How do you know that the freeway filled with cars that have obviously been there a long time hasn't already been largely siphoned? Are you assuming this group is the first to come across all these cars? But of course, we did see them siphon some gasoline there, but gas is a finite resource. It will probably always be hard to find and will only get more scarce because it's not like any more is getting produced.

I think this show is doomed no matter what it does. I'm not bothered by the fact that there are a lot of survival types of things that we don't see. I don't need to see people from the group siphon a bunch of gas. People are complaining about the show being slow moving and boring, but can you imagine an episode devoted to the group going vehicle to vehicle and checking each one for gas? "Let's all just stay on the highway and methodically check each gas tank." Yet, if that isn't shown, are we to assume that it's NEVER done?

Let's be honest here. For the most part, if these people did nothing but the smart things, the "right" things, this really would be a very boring show to watch and we'd probably see far fewer zombies than we do now.

I'm not an expert on wells, but I would think that with the zombie in the well that all of the ground water would be polluted if it's coming from the same source. So the other well would probably be in the same situation as the zombie well.

and with a zombie that big, that wet - it falling apart like that isn't rocket science.

Or stab mommy to death with cement trowel and then eat her. I'm getting the vibe this is the "farmhouse" season. Somebody gonna fuck up which alerts the zombies to the house and season finale has the farmhouse overrun with the survivors moving on to new season/new situation.

I did complain about the first season a little, but I didn't know the above so I have cut it a lot of slack since finding that out this year. It entertains me and I thought the well scene was funny as hell so it did not bother me at all. I have come to accept the fact that they are going to do stupid crap because they just don't know any better.

Whether it be zombies, aliens, warring invaders, gangs... it doesn't matter, this show is about the survival of this small group of people and how they react to their surroundings. A survivalist wouldn't think beyond that group of people. And some of their stupidity towards survival can be annoying and grating. I don't need to see the things I pointed out, but I don't want to hear them bitching about it either.

And doing the right/smart things doesn't end conflicts from happening within the group. I don't think many people watched the show The Colony, but that's sort of what I envisioned with this group. Obviously since there is source material to The Walking Dead, I can't really say they can change much of the story without rewriting a lot of it so that it's drastically different.

I guess that's the thing. These people, for the most part, aren't survivalists. They're just normal people who are survivors and who are still maybe thinking about things larger than themselves, like the entire human race. And I can't recall them "constantly bitching about fuel consumption." That's just hyperbole, much like many of the complaints.

Don't forget that "the Colony" had experts at different fields in the cast as well as experts off camera to help them with construction and safety so that nothing they built would catch on fire and that their food wouldn't kill them. Normal people do stupid shit.

In the first episode of this season when they come across the freeway pile up, Glen suggests that they turn back and take another route and Dale interrupts him saying that "they can't spare the fuel". Of course it's when the Winnebago's radiator hose breaks and Dale starts to piss and moan about that, that they think these things thru about scavenging the abandoned cars. Yeah, all these things seem small and petty and it wouldn't even raise my suspicions/questions if the dialog was never said in the first place.

That's the point, the Colony was specialized and they still had conflict within the group. And that is what any story is about.. conflict between and their resolution.

And you can't tell me that these people aren't somehow specialized. Daryl is trained to survive in the woods. Rick and Shane are trained to deal with emergency situations. And Dale seems to have more than just basic automotive knowledge.

But TWD is driven by source material which I have not read, so I can't say they will be straying far from it and if it was written that way, then so be it.

So, they mention the gas thing once and that's the equivalent of "constantly bitching about fuel consumption." Like I said, that's just more hyperbole.

I still think you're giving these people more survival skills than they really have, although I'll certainly grant you Daryl.

They have a destination in mind and doubling back would waste fuel. Even with siphoning, fuel is a limited resource and for all we know this was the first pile-up they found that wasn't picked clean already. Besides, risking a stop just to look for gas is different then looking for gas once you are forcible stopped. And again, even if we pretend that a character just contradicted themselves... who cares? That's probably more realistic then if they didn't. I can name a dozen examples of people in "The Colony" saying one thing and then doing the exact opposite once shit hit the fan. Hell, I think my girlfriend does that hourly.

I guess no one got "The Stand" reference, that i guess it wasn't really that funny.

Just started watching this show as I DVR'd the first few seasons from the AMC Marathon last weekend, and I really like this show.

Maybe I went in with low expectations because I was aware of the 'complaining' about the show by fans on the internet, but I have been pleasantly suprised.

I am not a zombie person, and that is why I didn't bother with this show when it first premiered. What I like about it is the relationships between the characters and their motives living in this world that many see as hopeless.

Of course its not perfect, but not every show can be Breaking Bad. I just finished this specific episode, and looking forward to catching up to the current season starting Sunday Night on AMC.

I would say that most of the people that complain about the show are readers of the comic. Big fans of the comic.

I see what you're saying. Maybe its better that I am not a reader of the comics, and I am just going in cold turkey to the show with no preconceived ideas. I guess I can relate as I am a big Star Wars fan, and there is a constant battle among the fanbase about anything that comes out from Lucas or Disney these days.

Nope. I think the comic is an overrated piece of crap as well.

That's why I said most.

Okay, this thread was the most recently bumped TWD thread, so figured I'd ask a more generalized/inflammatory question here:

Is Andrew Lincoln as much of an @$$hole as I'm picturing? I ask that with reason, and cause:

The big Conan O'Brien cast interview last night. Don't usually watch Conan on TBS, recorded it for TWD... but not just TWD. I saw Lincoln was going to be on there, and as a huge fan of the show but not so hardcore I seek extra content out, I recorded it for that alone because I really hadn't ever seen him interviewed.

Also because of Talking Dead - I've watched about every episode of that, and it became almost poignant how the entire cast and creative crew has all appeared by now while Lincoln is MIA. Then, it's like it's this huuuge deal that Hardwick interviewed Lincoln at what was clearly some press junket in a hotel room. The clips from said interview were interspersed all season long on Talking Dead - making it seem like the fact Hardwick got to sit down in a room with Lincoln was so noteworthy it aired over the course of weeks, bizarre when they've never done anything similar and everybody else shows up live, for one episode, including even Kirkman.

So... Lincoln was to be on Conan with the rest of the cast. Just sat down to watch it anddddd..... no Andrew Lincoln!!! "We're sorry, Andrew's sick in England and told not to fly. But everybody else is here!"

So am I way off base because of a strange confluence of bizarre anecdotes and limited personal evidence, or does Lincoln have a reputation? Whether with press, interviews, or more generally - whatever. I'm picturing an aloof guy who might be the "acting is an art" type and just spurns the entertainment/media segments of his job... likewise, maybe he really was deathly sick last night and gives a trillion interviews on shows I don't watch, thus my inquiry.

Short answer: no.

Have your watched "Love Actually"? He's a puppy!

I should have probably prefaced my earlier, sensationalistic statement by saying I didn't necessarily mean personally an @$$hole - he could well be the nicest guy on set, first name basis with even craft services crew. But combine the Talking Dead with skipping out on Conan last night, and I'm getting the feeling he just doesn't do press or interviews.

Which is fine, if I did that work I wouldn't want to deal with airheads asking me the same questions over and over again either. That said, if he does have said reputation, it does make the sick excuse last night more questionable in my mind - and committing, then leaving the rest of your castmates hanging, is sort of @$$holish to my eyes.

And nope on Love Actually - sorry, largely because I'm *really* not a Hugh Grant fan.

I saw Andrew Lincoln interviewed by Letterman and also heard him on Geektime. He seemed pretty cool on both of those.