Last Man Standing (moving to FOX) S: Tim Allen -- Series Thread
01-30-18 | 07:47 PM
#51
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
I’ve watched halfway through season 4 (and more on my DVR) via syndication.
I think this show is hilarious. The Home Improvement cameos are great.
I think this show is hilarious. The Home Improvement cameos are great.
01-30-18 | 07:50 PM
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
If a sitcom did nothing but bash one person, it’s not even a sitcom. That sounds terrible. How do you build a storyline around that?
01-30-18 | 07:50 PM
#53
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Yeah Jonathan Taylor Thomas shows up, and have seen two episodes with Richard Karn one where he was drunk during a baseball game.
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01-30-18 | 07:53 PM
#54
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Tim Allen works for a sporting goods store called Outdoor Man, and there's a lot jokes around our current PC Culture, also struggling with being a Dad to three daughters. Kind of the other side of the coin to Home Improvement when he was the Dad to three boys.
01-30-18 | 08:03 PM
#55
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CMT was negotiating trying to revive it, but it was just too costly to try to do a Network sitcom on a cable budget. The negotiations lasted for about one day until CMT found out the cost....
01-30-18 | 08:05 PM
#56
Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
The only reason people consider it a right wing sitcom, is because it has some right wing characters. Many sitcoms are 100% liberal characters. But on LMS, there were both right and left wing characters, and the jokes went both ways. One side would make a joke, and the other side would rebut it.
01-30-18 | 08:48 PM
#57
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Naw, it was purely cost based, the show had decent overall viewer numbers but terrible demo ratings (1.0 - 1.1 avg in its final season) - which is what pays the bills - and was in season 6 which is $$.
Not sure why there was outrage about it, more watched shows get canned all the time. Allen probably burned a few bridges trying to get his next $6m payday.
Not sure why there was outrage about it, more watched shows get canned all the time. Allen probably burned a few bridges trying to get his next $6m payday.
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01-30-18 | 10:48 PM
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
There wasn't that much Obama bashing. It happened from time to time. But not more than 1-2 jokes in an episode. And in most of the episodes, they never mention Obama at all.
The only reason people consider it a right wing sitcom, is because it has some right wing characters. Many sitcoms are 100% liberal characters. But on LMS, there were both right and left wing characters, and the jokes went both ways. One side would make a joke, and the other side would rebut it.
The only reason people consider it a right wing sitcom, is because it has some right wing characters. Many sitcoms are 100% liberal characters. But on LMS, there were both right and left wing characters, and the jokes went both ways. One side would make a joke, and the other side would rebut it.
01-30-18 | 11:04 PM
#59
Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
There wasn't that much Obama bashing. It happened from time to time. But not more than 1-2 jokes in an episode. And in most of the episodes, they never mention Obama at all.
The only reason people consider it a right wing sitcom, is because it has some right wing characters. Many sitcoms are 100% liberal characters. But on LMS, there were both right and left wing characters, and the jokes went both ways. One side would make a joke, and the other side would rebut it.
The only reason people consider it a right wing sitcom, is because it has some right wing characters. Many sitcoms are 100% liberal characters. But on LMS, there were both right and left wing characters, and the jokes went both ways. One side would make a joke, and the other side would rebut it.
01-30-18 | 11:14 PM
#60
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It also made fun of conservatives. As I mentioned in my post above. It was an even playing field.
03-29-18 | 03:38 PM
#61
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Fox is now considering bring back Last Man Standing, after the success of the return of Roseanne.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/29/la...=atdailycaller
http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/29/la...=atdailycaller
03-29-18 | 04:00 PM
#62
Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
ABC should attempt to get him to do Home Improvement again instead.
03-29-18 | 04:09 PM
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I think Last Man Standing would be easier, it hasn't been that long since the show went off the air. Getting the whole cast together wouldn't be as difficult. Home Improvement ended on a wimper, plus Earl Hindman (Wilson) passed away. This gives me hope for a LMS comeback.
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03-30-18 | 11:10 AM
#64
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
I have to say that prior to the show being cancelled it felt like a sitcom well past its glory days. I used to watch the show the night of or shortly after it aired, and at worst I would only fall a few episodes behind, but by the time the cancellation was announced I was behind at least 7-10 episodes and just struggled to find the desire to catch up so the cancellation was a blessing in disguise allowing me to delete the show and the stockpiled eps were also nuked from my tivo.
I was a viewer of the show from its very first episode (I also grew up watching Home Improvement with my parents) and could care less that Tim Allen was not a liberal (this liberal can still laugh at jokes from conservatives as long as they are well...actually funny).
As much as I want to believe there is a kernel of truth that the show was cancelled due to Tim Allen's political views the reality as has been pointed out in this thread is that it was no longer popping in the 18-49 demo and was an expensive show to air. Again, I am a fan and it felt like a grind to watch episodes from its last season and if a viewer that ABC does not know from Adam like me felt this way about the show I suspect it was evident to folks behind the scenes that the writing was on the wall.
It would have been a better look for Tim Allen if he just redirected his energy to creating another show to star in. It is just embarrassing when folks call others snowflakes (that is what Conservatives still call us Bluelite...yes?) but actually end up redefining the term thin skinned because they cannot handle any explanation about why their show was cancelled that does not line up with what they insist is the real reason.
Again, I am still a fan of Tim Allen...but the dude needs to Let It Go, Last Man Standing was on shaky ground in its last season and plenty of viewers noticed this, find another vehicle to star in. Whining about us mean liberals and those fools at ABC who only kiss up to liberals when they just had huge success with a show about a conservative family, such success that President Trump called to congratulate Roseanne, just comes off as you crying like a bitch (thank you Godsmack).
Tim is better than this and I am sure after the success of Roseanne he will notice that TV studios might be more receptive to having him star in a new sitcom.
I was a viewer of the show from its very first episode (I also grew up watching Home Improvement with my parents) and could care less that Tim Allen was not a liberal (this liberal can still laugh at jokes from conservatives as long as they are well...actually funny).
As much as I want to believe there is a kernel of truth that the show was cancelled due to Tim Allen's political views the reality as has been pointed out in this thread is that it was no longer popping in the 18-49 demo and was an expensive show to air. Again, I am a fan and it felt like a grind to watch episodes from its last season and if a viewer that ABC does not know from Adam like me felt this way about the show I suspect it was evident to folks behind the scenes that the writing was on the wall.
It would have been a better look for Tim Allen if he just redirected his energy to creating another show to star in. It is just embarrassing when folks call others snowflakes (that is what Conservatives still call us Bluelite...yes?) but actually end up redefining the term thin skinned because they cannot handle any explanation about why their show was cancelled that does not line up with what they insist is the real reason.
Again, I am still a fan of Tim Allen...but the dude needs to Let It Go, Last Man Standing was on shaky ground in its last season and plenty of viewers noticed this, find another vehicle to star in. Whining about us mean liberals and those fools at ABC who only kiss up to liberals when they just had huge success with a show about a conservative family, such success that President Trump called to congratulate Roseanne, just comes off as you crying like a bitch (thank you Godsmack).
Tim is better than this and I am sure after the success of Roseanne he will notice that TV studios might be more receptive to having him star in a new sitcom.
05-03-18 | 01:16 PM
#65
Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
‘Last Man Standing’ Eyes Resurrection At Fox With Star Tim Allen Set to Return
A year after Last Man Standing was canceled by ABC, the multi-camera comedy starring Tim Allen is plotting a comeback on a new network. Last Man Standing producer 20th Century Fox TV is in talks with sibling Fox Broadcasting Co. for a new season of the series, which would be its seventh.
I hear star and executive producer Allen has closed a deal to return. 20th TV is currently in conversations with other cast members as well as members of the series’ creative team, including producers, to come back. Two of the key Last Man Standing series regulars, Nancy Travis and Hector Elizondo, are tied to other multi-camera comedies at the moment. Travis stars in the upcoming Netflix comedy series The Kominsky Method while Elizondo is a lead of the pilot Guess Who Died, which is in contention at NBC.
Insiders caution there are still many deals to close and the show’s return is by no means a sure thing but there are promising signs that a seventh season is possible. Fox and 20th TV declined comment.
Allen has been vocal about his disappointment over the cancellation of Last Man Standing by ABC and his hope to see it come back. Over the past couple of weeks, he posted a slew of blooper videos from the show on Twitter with nostalgic notes like: “So fun to look back on these good times” and “We really had some good laughs on this show. I loved working with these people.”
Fox actually seriously considered rescuing Last Man Standing last May, following its surprise cancellation by ABC after six seasons. Fox brass tried to fit Last Man Standing into the schedule but couldn’t find a way to do it. Fox had been out of the multi-camera business for a while and didn’t have a multi-camera comedy to pair Last Man with. This development season, Fox put an emphasis on multi-camera comedies with several pilots, Rel, Cool Kids and the just ordered untitled Rob McElhenney & Rob Rosell project, which also is set in middle America.
Last summer, there was one more attempt to find a home for Last Man Standing at CMT, which had had success with the sitcom’s reruns, though talks did not result in a deal.
Efforts to resurrect Last Man Standing were reignited by the success of ABC’s Roseanne revival this spring. Besides a star of a popular 1990s ABC sitcom (Roseanne‘s Roseanne Barr and Home Improvement‘s Allen), the two shows also share leads who both are supporters of President Donald Trump and reflect views rarely seen in scripted TV series.
Last Man Standing stars Allen as Mike Baxter, a senior executive at an outdoor sporting goods store in Denver, and revolves around his work and family life as a husband and father of three daughters. With a central character — played by Republican Allen — who is a political conservative and devout Christian adhering to traditional American values, Last Man Standing, like Roseanne, is relatable to viewers in the Heartland.
The cancellation of Last Man Standing was met with very strong reaction from fans last May. It became a rallying cry for conservatives, with a petition launched that called for ABC to bring back “a show that appeals to a broad swath of Americans who find very few shows that extol the virtues with which they can identify; namely conservative values.” A year later, the petition has amassed 438,000 signatures and there is still enthusiasm among LMS fans about the show coming back, especially following Roseanne‘s return.
Allen referenced fans’ outpouring of support in a tweet this morning about LMS‘ possible return.
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Last Man Standing could bring sizable viewership to Fox. The sitcom was a sturdy ratings performer on ABC. Airing on the low-trafficked Friday night, it averaged 8.1 million viewers in Live+7 for its most recent sixth season, ranking as ABC’s second-most watched comedy for the 2016-17 season only behind Modern Family. That is far more than the audience for any Fox comedy series and would rank as the network’s second most watched series behind 9-1-1. LMS also had been doing well in broadcast syndication, so another season could make financial sense for 20th TV as long as the studio can re-sign the actors at reasonable salaries.
Additionally, with Last Man Standing, Fox would get its own multi-camera sitcom revival, joining Roseanne on ABC, Will & Grace on NBC and Murphy Brown on CBS.
Fox has a similarly-titled single-camera comedy series, The Last Man On Earth, which is heavily on the bubble and currently not looking very likely to return. For now, there is little chance that The Last Man On Earth and Last Man Standing would co-exist next season though that would certainly be amusing.
http://deadline.com/2018/05/last-man...en-1202379904/
A year after Last Man Standing was canceled by ABC, the multi-camera comedy starring Tim Allen is plotting a comeback on a new network. Last Man Standing producer 20th Century Fox TV is in talks with sibling Fox Broadcasting Co. for a new season of the series, which would be its seventh.
I hear star and executive producer Allen has closed a deal to return. 20th TV is currently in conversations with other cast members as well as members of the series’ creative team, including producers, to come back. Two of the key Last Man Standing series regulars, Nancy Travis and Hector Elizondo, are tied to other multi-camera comedies at the moment. Travis stars in the upcoming Netflix comedy series The Kominsky Method while Elizondo is a lead of the pilot Guess Who Died, which is in contention at NBC.
Insiders caution there are still many deals to close and the show’s return is by no means a sure thing but there are promising signs that a seventh season is possible. Fox and 20th TV declined comment.
Allen has been vocal about his disappointment over the cancellation of Last Man Standing by ABC and his hope to see it come back. Over the past couple of weeks, he posted a slew of blooper videos from the show on Twitter with nostalgic notes like: “So fun to look back on these good times” and “We really had some good laughs on this show. I loved working with these people.”
Fox actually seriously considered rescuing Last Man Standing last May, following its surprise cancellation by ABC after six seasons. Fox brass tried to fit Last Man Standing into the schedule but couldn’t find a way to do it. Fox had been out of the multi-camera business for a while and didn’t have a multi-camera comedy to pair Last Man with. This development season, Fox put an emphasis on multi-camera comedies with several pilots, Rel, Cool Kids and the just ordered untitled Rob McElhenney & Rob Rosell project, which also is set in middle America.
Last summer, there was one more attempt to find a home for Last Man Standing at CMT, which had had success with the sitcom’s reruns, though talks did not result in a deal.
Efforts to resurrect Last Man Standing were reignited by the success of ABC’s Roseanne revival this spring. Besides a star of a popular 1990s ABC sitcom (Roseanne‘s Roseanne Barr and Home Improvement‘s Allen), the two shows also share leads who both are supporters of President Donald Trump and reflect views rarely seen in scripted TV series.
Last Man Standing stars Allen as Mike Baxter, a senior executive at an outdoor sporting goods store in Denver, and revolves around his work and family life as a husband and father of three daughters. With a central character — played by Republican Allen — who is a political conservative and devout Christian adhering to traditional American values, Last Man Standing, like Roseanne, is relatable to viewers in the Heartland.
The cancellation of Last Man Standing was met with very strong reaction from fans last May. It became a rallying cry for conservatives, with a petition launched that called for ABC to bring back “a show that appeals to a broad swath of Americans who find very few shows that extol the virtues with which they can identify; namely conservative values.” A year later, the petition has amassed 438,000 signatures and there is still enthusiasm among LMS fans about the show coming back, especially following Roseanne‘s return.
Allen referenced fans’ outpouring of support in a tweet this morning about LMS‘ possible return.
They heard all your voices people!! LMS just might be a reality. Keep it up. Who wants more #LastManStanding ?
— Tim Allen (@ofctimallen) May 3, 2018
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Last Man Standing could bring sizable viewership to Fox. The sitcom was a sturdy ratings performer on ABC. Airing on the low-trafficked Friday night, it averaged 8.1 million viewers in Live+7 for its most recent sixth season, ranking as ABC’s second-most watched comedy for the 2016-17 season only behind Modern Family. That is far more than the audience for any Fox comedy series and would rank as the network’s second most watched series behind 9-1-1. LMS also had been doing well in broadcast syndication, so another season could make financial sense for 20th TV as long as the studio can re-sign the actors at reasonable salaries.
Additionally, with Last Man Standing, Fox would get its own multi-camera sitcom revival, joining Roseanne on ABC, Will & Grace on NBC and Murphy Brown on CBS.
Fox has a similarly-titled single-camera comedy series, The Last Man On Earth, which is heavily on the bubble and currently not looking very likely to return. For now, there is little chance that The Last Man On Earth and Last Man Standing would co-exist next season though that would certainly be amusing.
http://deadline.com/2018/05/last-man...en-1202379904/
05-03-18 | 01:22 PM
#66
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
I posted a link to a similar story a little over a month ago. That's first news I've heard about it going to Fox. I hope it can comeback even if its a limited series run. The season six finale ended the season, but it felt like there are plenty more stories to tell.
05-11-18 | 03:04 PM
#67
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Fox officially ordered a new season today. http://tvline.com/2018/05/11/last-ma...allen-renewed/
05-11-18 | 03:32 PM
#68
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Awesome, that article doesn’t say for how long, but I hope it can be successful on Fox. Hopefully there won’t be any trouble in getting the full cast back.
05-11-18 | 03:33 PM
#69
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Sorta felt like this show had run its course, but I know it has some pretty vocal fans, should be at least a moderate hit for Fox. A majority of the cast is expected back.
05-11-18 | 04:16 PM
#70
Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
I really enjoyed the show. I'll be glad to have it back. 
05-11-18 | 07:15 PM
#71
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Re: Last Man Standing (moving to FOX) S: Tim Allen -- Series Thread
Sweet! I’m still catching up via syndication. I’m on season 5.
05-12-18 | 12:02 AM
#72
Re: Last Man Standing (moving to FOX) S: Tim Allen -- Series Thread
Ugh the cancelled B99 and bring this dopey show back.
05-12-18 | 09:53 AM
#73
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Re: Last Man Standing (moving to FOX) S: Tim Allen -- Series Thread
Folks I stand by my rant, as I would love to see Tim Allen in a different vehicle...I guess the finances behind rejuvenating this show made sense.
I am more excited that Brooklyn Nine Nine will get a nice mini season send off on NBC.
I am more excited that Brooklyn Nine Nine will get a nice mini season send off on NBC.
05-12-18 | 10:29 AM
#74
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Re: Last Man Standing -- Series Thread -- (Tim Allen returns to ABC) -- Debuts 10/11/
Fox officially ordered a new season today. http://tvline.com/2018/05/11/last-ma...allen-renewed/