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PopcornTreeCt 06-16-12 09:41 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I wish AMC could've scheduled it so that we got Mad Men ending and this starting the following week. The wait is killing me.

Troy Stiffler 06-17-12 12:24 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Only thing I don't get... Is Walter really the only one who could cook that meth? I mean, they surveillence the cooks for months. Is it really so proprietary at this point? Otherwise, everything is really tightly written.

And I hate Skyler less going into Season 4. She was really a bitch for two seasons.

aktick 06-17-12 01:15 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I believe one of his excuses was that if anything went wrong, nobody else would be able to figure out how to correct it.

Troy Stiffler 06-17-12 05:04 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Just finished Season 4. I LOVED being able to just watch the whole thing. So that's three seasons in a week. I think it's easier to get involved in the fiction, when it's all at once. I'm glad to see that Season 4 had a lot of closure. After Season 3, I had to keep watching (this show is like crack) and was able to find them online.

Spoiler:
I'm going to assume that Walt becomes the new king in Season 5. Or they give it up and focus on an exit strategy. Mike will be back - good character. Ted is dead and that could be a plot point - the loan and IRS stuff could still be a problem. Did Skyler ever learn of Ted's death? I think that Saul never told her. The car wash business could be a problem. Other that that, I think that everything is wiped clean. But there's endless posibilities for different cartels, more legal problems, etc.

Troy Stiffler 06-17-12 05:06 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by aktick (Post 11274913)
I believe one of his excuses was that if anything went wrong, nobody else would be able to figure out how to correct it.

Yea. And they filled in that point during Season 4. Even when they were in Mexico, Jesse only acheived 96%. Walter was doing over 99%. And the other chemist said that extra 3% is a big deal.

Raul3 06-17-12 05:08 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Remove the "s" from your spoiler tags.

And I think this show is for the Internet era. I mean is not Lost, that after every episode we there would be 10 page threads, but still, I love reading the BB threads here and elsewhere. And that's one thing I really missed when I was watching The Wire in HBO Go, after an episode ended, instead of clicking next I would have loved to go an Internet forum and discuss it.

Michael Corvin 06-17-12 08:54 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Yeah, I've been going back and reading some of the threads as I watch them. Just read the 4x08 "Hermanos" thread last night after watching it. I got a chuckle out of the Gus possibly being gay talk and that no one saw that coming. :lol: I assumed he was gay pretty much from the get go. Don't want to spoil it for anyone, but everyone who's seen it should know the flashback sequence I'm referring to.

Troy Stiffler 06-17-12 09:34 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
And how I wish "Face Off" wasn't already spoiled for me. The show is very unpredictable. But I saw the Face Off ending before, because someone online was like "you need to see this". Actually, I think that it was one of you bastards.

bluetoast 06-17-12 09:52 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Again I am jealous of people who got to see season 4 immediately after season 3. That one year wait was fucking insane.

My Other Self 06-17-12 10:56 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11275378)
Again I am jealous of people who got to see season 4 immediately after season 3. That one year wait was fucking insane.

I had started the show last June and blew through it to the point where I finished Season 3 about 2 weeks before Season 4. I watched the first 2 episodes of S4 and realized I couldn't do the week-to-week thing, it was hard because of how sucked in I was. I ended up waiting until after the finale in October and watched All 13 at once.

I hope I can watch this season one ep at a time but it's just so compelling it's very difficult.

Troy Stiffler 06-17-12 11:54 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11275378)
Again I am jealous of people who got to see season 4 immediately after season 3. That one year wait was fucking insane.

Yea. And I'll try to block this out of my head for the next year. Then I can watch Season 5 at once.

It occured to me that I watched 40 hours of Breaking Bad last week. I feel like I need to readjust to civilization after taking in that much at once.

And everyone on that show needs to have a talk about answering their damn cell phones. How many times do people leave voicemails over three seasons? 100? 200?

madcougar 06-18-12 09:41 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11275274)
Yeah, I've been going back and reading some of the threads as I watch them. Just read the 4x08 "Hermanos" thread last night after watching it. I got a chuckle out of the Gus possibly being gay talk and that no one saw that coming. :lol: I assumed he was gay pretty much from the get go. Don't want to spoil it for anyone, but everyone who's seen it should know the flashback sequence I'm referring to.

Spoiler:
I just watched Hermanos and thought for a second that Gus' excuse for being in Gale's apartment was that they were lovers! So yeah, that was the vibe I always got. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Moopher 06-18-12 08:08 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
So, I bought season one and two of this on BD last year...watched it...didn't care for it. I tried. I'm almost positive I gave up with two eps left on season.

Now, last night, I caught those two episodes late-night on AMC...I'm back on board. I need to catch up with this show immediately. Will be borrowing them ASAP.

bootsy 06-18-12 10:33 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Moopher (Post 11276531)
So, I bought season one and two of this on BD last year...watched it...didn't care for it. I tried. I'm almost positive I gave up with two eps left on season.

Now, last night, I caught those two episodes late-night on AMC...I'm back on board. I need to catch up with this show immediately. Will be borrowing them ASAP.

This is a great example of why people shouldn't stop watching a show like this after a couple of seasons. Glad you are revisiting the show. You won't regret it.

madcougar 06-24-12 12:42 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Just finished season 4. Holy f'ing Jebus... what a masterpiece this show is.

bdshort 06-24-12 12:46 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I think I may have to buy Season 4. It's in my Netflix BD queue but it says "Very Long Wait"...

Throwing Copper 06-24-12 06:40 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by madcougar (Post 11283123)
Just finished season 4. Holy f'ing Jebus... what a masterpiece this show is.

So Breaking Bad finally gets "good" in Season 4. Whew. Thanks for the info. ;)

Troy Stiffler 06-24-12 08:57 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 11283735)
So Breaking Bad finally gets "good" in Season 4. Whew. Thanks for the info. ;)

Yea. You could say that. The show gets action packed and all-around badass in Season 4. Before that, there's a lot of intensity, but nothing really adventerous. All the stuff with the cartels and Gus really brings teh epic.

Michael Corvin 06-24-12 09:23 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I finished up season 4 last week myself. Fantastic beginning to end. I loved the final scene when it played out, but after sitting on it for a week, I feel it was kinda hokey.

outcastja 06-25-12 01:55 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I shared my thoughts on Season 1 and Season 2. Finished season 3 tonight, and thought it was the best season so far. Was a little peeved about the ending, since I was expecting some sort of conclusion like there was in season 1 and 2. Can't wait to start season 4.

I mentioned after viewing season 2, I'd personally had this show as the 6th or 7th best show currently on TV, but after season 3, I'd put it around 4th or 5th.

Raul3 06-25-12 02:54 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I don't know what's better. Watching an episode and let it grow on you, for a couple of days at least. Or marathoning the series, watching an episode after an episode.

What do you think is best for Breaking Bad?


But yeah, if you have the dvd/blu set is really hard to watch an episode and wait a couple of days for the next one. :)

madcougar 06-28-12 02:40 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 11283735)
So Breaking Bad finally gets "good" in Season 4. Whew. Thanks for the info. ;)

Hey I didn't ask the original question! The show had me hooked literally two minutes into the pilot! But season 4 took it from "pretty damn good show" to "possibly the best television I've ever seen."

Throwing Copper 06-28-12 09:35 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by madcougar (Post 11288894)
Hey I didn't ask the original question! The show had me hooked literally two minutes into the pilot! But season 4 took it from "pretty damn good show" to "possibly the best television I've ever seen."

I know. I was just joking around because I'm shocked that a thread with a title this dumb would last so long.

BB is simply a great show.

bootsy 06-28-12 09:40 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 11289352)
I know. I was just joking around because I'm shocked that a thread with a title this dumb would last so long.

BB is simply a great show.

Well you know how some people are. You have your doubters, haters, people that love to say 'it's overrated' just to be saying it.. Can't please everybody.

Gunde 06-29-12 03:14 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 11284836)
I don't know what's better. Watching an episode and let it grow on you, for a couple of days at least. Or marathoning the series, watching an episode after an episode.

What do you think is best for Breaking Bad?

I prefer marathoning with any show but I gotta say I felt season 3 suffered that way. For some reason it seemed to really drag in places - more than when I watched it week to week.

Michael Corvin 06-29-12 07:30 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 11289352)
I know. I was just joking around because I'm shocked that a thread with a title this dumb would last so long.
.

It's turned into the "I just started watching BB" thread, which is cool.


Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 11289554)
I prefer marathoning with any show but I gotta say I felt season 3 suffered that way. For some reason it seemed to really drag in places - more than when I watched it week to week.

:up: I hated the first half of season 3 when I burned through the BDs. It probably would have been better week-to-week.

Jules Winfield 06-29-12 09:43 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Shit, I bumped an old Breaking Bad thread and didn't even see this one on the first page. Well, yeah, it gets better, dolphinboy, if you even still care.

outcastja 07-06-12 03:57 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Just finished season 4 and it has been exhausting (in a good way), now I can finally take a break before next week's season premiere. I agree that this show may suffer from marathoning it compared to watching it on a weekly basis, especially since the show has a "slow-burn" approach for each season. It's a great show, but I still have Mad Men, Game of Thrones, and Justified ahead of it. It's crazy to think how much Walt has evolved since the beginning, but unlike other anti-heroes I rooted for (Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey, Dexter, etc), I do want Walt to fail in the end.


Also I really enjoyed reading the episode threads with the constant misspelling of http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-c...ok-240x300.jpg.

Michael Corvin 07-06-12 06:26 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by outcastja (Post 11297392)
\unlike other anti-heroes I rooted for (Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey, Dexter, etc), I do want Walt to fail in the end.

Ab-so-fucking-lutely.

Jesse on the other hand, I'd like to see riding off into the sunset with a "happily ever after" vibe.

RichC2 07-06-12 07:46 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I was thinking more a "I'm a badass motherfucker" vibe.

Michael Corvin 07-06-12 07:51 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Well, yeah, that too. I just don't want him to meet a grisly fate or end up in jail. I still think he's not near as gone as Walt and is capable of being a respectable human being.

CapRockBrewingCo. 07-06-12 04:01 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11275378)
Again I am jealous of people who got to see season 4 immediately after season 3. That one year wait was fucking insane.

Just watched Season 3 and 4 together this summer after catching Seasons 1 & 2 a while ago. Great effing television.

madcougar 07-06-12 04:06 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I'm on the fence on wanting Walt to pay the price for his misdeeds. I was firmly on the "I want him to live and get away with it" until the end of Season 4. Now, I don't know.

stopgap 07-06-12 05:05 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by madcougar (Post 11297983)
I'm on the fence on wanting Walt to pay the price for his misdeeds. I was firmly on the "I want him to live and get away with it" until the end of Season 4. Now, I don't know.

Spoiler:
Hence 'Breaking Bad'. To me it became abundantly clear he was a man that adapted to the moment at hand. Fatal consequences usually happened. I have a hard time thinking anyone he was responsible with being killed was exactly 'innocent'. He tried to live in a normal family template. You know, like we are all told to be from birth.

Took us awhile to see how he can be unlike Gus who was ruthless from the beginning (though the eventual back-story gave us a view on why).

Walt has been responsible for deaths due to survival. Unlike the others that do it just to make a point. I believe Walt knew the kid would make it though from the poisoning. This is all just how I grasped the story individually so don't flame me. I welcome a discussion if anyone disagrees though.

DthRdrX 07-06-12 06:19 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I have a feeling that this show is going to end with Walt getting away with everything but some other universal disaster happening to him.

stopgap 07-06-12 09:12 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by DthRdrX (Post 11298123)
I have a feeling that this show is going to end with Walt getting away with everything but some other universal disaster happening to him.

I guess he should have to answer for his sins, but he isn't as evil as the one's he's has to deal with. I want him tunneling his way to freedom and hanging out with Jesse working on his boat.

No-one take my idea. It's never been done before.

Michael Corvin 07-07-12 12:55 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by stopgap (Post 11298061)
Spoiler:
Hence 'Breaking Bad'. To me it became abundantly clear he was a man that adapted to the moment at hand. Fatal consequences usually happened. I have a hard time thinking anyone he was responsible with being killed was exactly 'innocent'. He tried to live in a normal family template. You know, like we are all told to be from birth.

Took us awhile to see how he can be unlike Gus who was ruthless from the beginning (though the eventual back-story gave us a view on why).

Walt has been responsible for deaths due to survival. Unlike the others that do it just to make a point. I believe Walt knew the kid would make it though from the poisoning. This is all just how I grasped the story individually so don't flame me. I welcome a discussion if anyone disagrees though.

Except that the entire series is null and void if Walt had just taken the money/job from his former colleagues.

DJariya 07-07-12 12:29 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
This is kind of a dumb thread to keep bumping for those not currently up to date with Breaking Bad, but hell I'll play along.

For some reason I never got into the show when it was airing week to week. So I blind bought seasons 1-3 at one point when they were below $20 and casually started watching. Then I started to get really into it. I bought the BD for season 4 release week.

So, here's my situation, I just finished season 2 last night. Loved it. I'm now beginning season 3. I have 26 episodes to get through before next Sunday. My Directv season pass is already set for the premiere. I hope to finish in time to watch week to week.

stopgap 07-07-12 02:03 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11298487)
Except that the entire series is null and void if Walt had just taken the money/job from his former colleagues.

Of course. It's obvious he is bitter about that.

Michael Corvin 07-07-12 05:37 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
My point was Walt doesn't simply kill out of survival. He doesn't just adapt to each situation, he's cold and calculated. There was no reason he had to kill that guy in Jesse's basement in the first season. Sure it came to that point, but he could have let him go sooner and just been a man and dealt with the consequences of his actions to that point. Up to that point his crimes would have been minor for a first time offense and with his brother-in-law tossing some DEA sway his way, he would have been fine. He didn't need 700k to provide for his family in the event of his death, they'll get along just fine. People do it day in and day out.

I just don't buy the "people he killed were bad anyway" so Walt gets a pass argument. Walt has been one of those people since the first season.

Season 4 spoiler talk:

Spoiler:

As for the Lily of the Valley poisoning... I still haven't decided on that. Given Walt's actions over the past 4 years, I'm leaning toward, I don't think he gave a shit about whether the kid lived or died. He was a means to an end. However part of me wants to believe (like Vader), there is still good in him. He obviously is a chemistry genius and could have easily figured out the right dosage to not harm the kid, but it kinda seems like him surviving will be a loose end for Jesse to figure out. I guess we might learn more on that soon enough.


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