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rfduncan 09-12-12 02:29 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11380318)
It's polarizing, but it's still a bottle episode on a show that works best when it's serialized.

But yeah I agree, worst episode of the series.

I didn't ultimately consider it a "bottle episode" in the long run. Walt ultimately instills upon Jesse the absolute necessity of maintaining the lab to ensure the purest product possible. It is this episode that allows Jesse to "pull off" being a capable cook when Gus and Mike bring him to the chemists in Mexico, and he does his full-tilt verbal ass reaming of the head chemist.

sydonesia 09-12-12 03:00 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Those of you talking about the awesome intensity of "One Minute," I eagerly await your reactions to some of the things that happen in season 4 that make "One Minute" seem minor.


I didn't ultimately consider it a "bottle episode" in the long run.
I don't get people defending "Fly" by feeling the need to add that it was a "bottle episode." That was the whole problem. It felt like they wanted to do a "bottle episode" so they forced and stretched out a ludicrous plot into it to make it fit.

islandclaws 09-12-12 05:15 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Well, I can't wait for those things to happen. We're halfway through S4 and so far, it's a snoozer. They're just treading water. Every event up to the point I'm at could have been condensed into 2, 3 eps tops. And I'm not getting my Saul fix.

anomynous 09-12-12 07:23 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
:lol:

Raul3 09-12-12 07:31 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Yeah.

islandclaws 09-13-12 02:40 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Ok, onto S4/E8... now shit is starting to get interesting again.

Troy Stiffler 09-13-12 06:45 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Some shit is going down, son!

Gunde 09-14-12 02:30 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by macnorton (Post 11381450)
Ludicrous is lumping in us that enjoyed it as pretentious hipsters. I have stated numerous times how much I loved this episode for a number of interesting developments that occurred. Additionally, I think most of the detractors didn't enjoy this because of the comedy that happened within the episode. And I find that ironic since there is a lot of comedy (albeit not physical) it the show itself.

I've never seen that complaint. I think several of us have explained many times quite well why the episode didn't work for us.

islandclaws 09-14-12 09:47 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 11383559)
Some shit is going down, son!

2 eps left in S4... and, yea, some serious shit has gone down. These last 2 should be nailbiters.

Also, Anna Gunn has the best tits on TV. Period.

dino88 09-14-12 10:45 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11384266)
Also, Anna Gunn has the best tits on TV. Period.

I take it you don't watch Mad Men?

sydonesia 09-14-12 11:00 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11384266)
2 eps left in S4... and, yea, some serious shit has gone down. These last 2 should be nailbiters.

Pay close attention. It's all right there. Hidden in plain sight.

islandclaws 09-14-12 11:11 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by dino88 (Post 11384361)
I take it you don't watch Mad Men?

I'm well aware of Ms. Hendricks' ample assets, but I also think they likely look like saggy water balloons outside of a well-fitted bra.

islandclaws 09-14-12 11:13 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by sydonesia (Post 11384389)
Pay close attention. It's all right there. Hidden in plain sight.

Well, if I had to guess
Spoiler:
Jesse gets himself close to Gus, kills him. Walt kills Tyrus. Not sure what'll happen with Mike. Somehow Walt gets back on top.


Don't confirm anything, just speculating now so I can see how right/wrong I am later.

Oh, and Beneke's fall was rotfl rotfl rotfl .

islandclaws 09-14-12 06:04 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Ok, serious question:

Once I'm done with S4, I want to watch the first half of S5. Unfortunately for me, my cable provider only has eps 6,7,8 on demand (and I don't know how soon they'll expire). Where else can I watch this? I was thinking Amazon through my Roku, but I'm sure it's $2 per episode. I'd do more research online, like AMC's website, but it's VERY EASY to see spoilers that ruin big moments. Thoughts?

Troy Stiffler 09-14-12 06:28 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Pay the $2 per episode.

islandclaws 09-14-12 07:00 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I figured as much. Will do.

And WTF, it's not coming back until Summer '13? That's one helluva wait.

sydonesia 09-15-12 04:12 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Yeah, I got on board and caught up halfway through season 5. It sucked enough having to wait a week for each show, much less having to wait ten months.

Just out of curiosity, and if you can keep it spoiler-free, did you see the big payoff of season 4 coming? Because even with it thrown in my face, it didn't even sink in until a few minutes later. I watched it, was happy with the ending, turned it off, moved on to other things, and then I thought.......holy shit.

The first four-five minutes of season 5 might be the most analyzed piece of footage since the Zapruder film.

islandclaws 09-15-12 09:59 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Oh no, I did NOT see that coming. Holy shit, indeed.

I will say that
Spoiler:
I thought Gus' walking out of the room, while effective in a "can't he just fucking die?!?" kind of way, was ridiculous. Once I got the gist of Walt's plan, I figured out about a min or two before the bomb went off that he'd linked it up to Tio's bell. Brilliant.


Also,
Spoiler:
why didn't Gus get in the car in the penultimate episode? I seriously doubt that he'd just assume out of thin air that his car is rigged or something. It made for great tension, but it also made no sense.


It appears AMC just started re-airing S5; the second episode is tomorrow. So, I'll pay to watch ep 1 on Amazon, and then I'll just DVR the remaining 6. I really can't wait to see where things go from here. I don't even know where they would go. That's one thing I'll definitely give this show credit for: you can't telegraph anyone's next move. These are very unpredictable characters.

Jack Straw 09-15-12 01:04 PM

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This is all kinds of awesome. Shows spoilers through the end of just aired S5. Grabbed it from Aaron Paul's twitter feed. I hope that it gets updated after the final 8.

xVladx 09-15-12 01:12 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11385574)
Oh no, I did NOT see that coming. Holy shit, indeed.

I will say that
Spoiler:
I thought Gus' walking out of the room, while effective in a "can't he just fucking die?!?" kind of way, was ridiculous. Once I got the gist of Walt's plan, I figured out about a min or two before the bomb went off that he'd linked it up to Tio's bell. Brilliant.


Also,
Spoiler:
why didn't Gus get in the car in the penultimate episode? I seriously doubt that he'd just assume out of thin air that his car is rigged or something. It made for great tension, but it also made no sense.

Spoilers for up through the end of S4:
Spoiler:
Actually, it does make sense. The funny thing was, when it first aired, people were saying the same thing as you, that Gus crossed over from being a really smart guy to having spidey-sense, but given the reveal that Walt was the one who poisoned Brock in the S4 finale, it makes sense. When Gus went to see Jesse in the hospital, Jesse told him that Brock had been poisoned, probably just to gauge Gus' reaction. In doing so, though, he overplayed his hand. Gus knew that Walt was capable of desperate acts, and was enough of a chemist to be able to poison a kid. He realized that Walt managed to draw him out, and since he left his car unattended, he didn't want to risk heading back in case there was a trap.



It appears AMC just started re-airing S5; the second episode is tomorrow. So, I'll pay to watch ep 1 on Amazon, and then I'll just DVR the remaining 6. I really can't wait to see where things go from here. I don't even know where they would go. That's one thing I'll definitely give this show credit for: you can't telegraph anyone's next move. These are very unpredictable characters.
That's what I love about the show. The characters certainly aren't predictable, but they're still consistent. They've all got established personalities, and even though it's really hard to guess where they go next, their actions always make sense in the context of their established behaviors.

islandclaws 09-15-12 01:36 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Your spoiler makes perfect sense. I sometimes forget that, in order to understand Gus' actions, you need to be inside the head of a calm, cool, collected drug lord who also needs to be ruthless, brutal, and, to a degree, paranoid.

The characters here sure as a consistent bunch, but they also act like they live in a vacuum. And everyone has got serious problems expressing their true emotions. Except Walt, Jr. He's a fucking saint compared to everyone else. I don't even want to get going on all my thoughts because I seriously feel like I could write a thesis. These people are so incredibly fucked up. I love it.

Troy Stiffler 09-15-12 03:05 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
That video reminds me... Out of everything in the show - I think the last five or ten minutes of Crawl Space is still the best.

sydonesia 09-15-12 04:27 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 11385967)
That video reminds me... Out of everything in the show - I think the last five or ten minutes of Crawl Space is still the best.

Nothing on television has ever freaked me out like the end of Crawl Space. It just had me pacing back and forth in near panic mode, wishing they would just hurry up and cut to the credits.

Jack Straw 09-15-12 04:49 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by sydonesia (Post 11386061)
Nothing on television has ever freaked me out like the end of Crawl Space. It just had me pacing back and forth in near panic mode, wishing they would just hurry up and cut to the credits.

Me too! Had me pretty freaked out fur sure.

Snowmaker 09-20-12 10:19 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
I just watched the season 3 episode "Fly". Worst, most annoying episode of the series so far. I could not wait for it to end. I know there was a big message in there somewhere, but I was too annoyed to appreciate it.

sydonesia 09-20-12 10:49 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Snowmaker (Post 11393338)
I just watched the season 3 episode "Fly". Worst, most annoying episode of the series so far. I could not wait for it to end. I know there was a big message in there somewhere, but I was to annoyed to appreciate it.

No. There isn't.

Just be pleased to know that's the last episode in the series that is anything like it.

Snowmaker 09-21-12 07:18 AM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by sydonesia (Post 11393365)
No. There isn't.

The whole speech about the right moment to die, and telling Jessie about what's-her-name's dad in the bar had to mean something...

Jack Straw 09-23-12 02:17 PM

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Found this on CNN.com. There are some very cool fan created art. Worth checking out. Breaking Bad is amazing!!! Can't do anything about the 30 sec. commercial.

Diabolical John 07-06-13 03:16 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
Breaking Bad is far and away the best show on TV right now, and this last season of Mad Men, to me at least, felt like relatively nothing new was happening.

I see what you're saying about the first few episodes dragging on about what to do with Crazy 8 and Emilio, but this show isn't about individual episodes so much as it is about the journey. If you were a law abiding citizen, a meek person like Walter White is at the start, the decision to kill another human being is going to be like a weight on your shoulders. This series needed to show that pace at the beginning, and you'll understand why as the show goes along.

If people are dropping like flies like it's nothing in the first episodes, than what is it going to mean when bodies drop later on in Seasons 3, 4 and 5? Unless you've killed someone before, I doubt it's going to be an easy process that you just shrug off, hence, three episodes.

Diabolical John 07-06-13 03:18 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
No, they were way over budget and had to do an episode that didn't have a big cast or lots of on-location shoots.

The big thing in this episode to me, is that Walt almost tells Jesse he let Jane die, but then changes his mind.

JuryDuty 07-06-13 03:59 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 

Originally Posted by Snowmaker (Post 11393338)
I just watched the season 3 episode "Fly". Worst, most annoying episode of the series so far. I could not wait for it to end. I know there was a big message in there somewhere, but I was too annoyed to appreciate it.

I found this online explanation of the Fly episode and found it one of the best written summaries. It does make it seem not so monotonous.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/quora/...b_2376255.html

Raul3 07-07-13 02:57 PM

Re: Does Breaking Bad ever get good?
 
does sex ever gets good?


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