DJariya

By djariya at 2011-03-19

Synopsis:



Episode 4 of 10

Trailer:

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Previous Episode Threads:

"Winter is Coming:
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/589...4-17-11-a.html

"The Kingsroad"
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/589...4-24-11-a.html

"Lord Snow"
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/590...5-01-11-a.html


Remember as a courtesy to those, including myself, who are experiencing this material for the 1st time, please stick to discussing this episode. If you want to talk about the books, play Nostradamus and predict what will happen in episode 5, 6 , 10, or talk about season 2, there is that other thread. I know the book lovers here can't help themselves and need to elaborate more than just talking about the episode.

WinterIsComing

The trailer shows that in this episode there will be a tournament. I wonder if the money put into this series will be sufficient enough for proper action. 2 key elements of the books already were left out or reduced to minor screentime because of the budget.

pinata242

Re-iterated. Again. Falls on deaf eyes.

Thanks, WinterIsComing for talking openly about a trailer that not everyone watches People just don't get it...

WinterIsComing

The tournament was mentioned in the last episode. Any sane human being can assume that there will be a tournament. So whats your problem?

Phod

Actually the discussion was how the King couldn't afford it.

How hard is it to use spoiler tags? What, it's like one extra button?

Did you just create a Game of Thrones account to toss in spoilers here and there that no one wants?

MrX

I'm interested to see how they deal with

WinterIsComing

There are no spoilers. If someone wrote there will be knights in this episode you WOULD complain, so Idon'tgiveayaknow.

Shady12

sven

Gilgamesh1082

They got it covered.

bmoney1023

If you're not going to watch the trailer or even read the synopsis for this episode then why even come into this thread at this point? Apparently, before it airs the only safe thing to say without spoiler tags is "I'm so excited for this episode."

NORML54601

Obvious troll has been reported. These threads get out of hand quickly enough, we really don't need someone join (apparently) just to piss people off

pinata242

You're right, prior to airing there is "no point" to coming into the episode thread. I do like to subscribe to a thread before it airs so it's more convenient to find it on my subscriptions page after the fact. I can do that without posting, but if I want try to fruitlessly, again, point out that this thread isn't for discussions of things that haven't been shown yet, that's my prerogative.

Can I stay out until I've seen the episode? Yes. But I have self-control which is a attribute sorely lacking by a small handful of people that are privy to more information than those of us that are just watching the show AS IT AIRS. I'm not reading the books, I'm not watching the trailers, I'm not watching the "Next Week on Game of Thrones" segments, etc. If you think I'm alone in that, you really haven't hung around TV Talk very long.

Look, this is a rare show that's based on an already-published work. Yes more information is out there than typical weekly serials, but that doesn't mean it's common knowledge.

No the spoilers that have been posted aren't game-changing or even worth getting worked up about, but it's a slippery slope and one that I, frankly, don't trust someone else to decide for me just because they know what is or is not important; what will and will not be addressed.

Again, my point this entire time is "Why are you posting it? Who is it benefiting?" The answer is always the poster. If someone wants to know the answers to things that will happen in a way, that information is clearly out there. There's another thread one can go into for all the spoilery goodness.

Let's not forget the scene with Jamie and Ned talking about a celebratory tournament and Ned flat-out saying that he doesn't like a man to know what he's capable of in battle. I can draw my own conclusions from that. When's it coming? I'd like to find out as it's shown - not when someone decides they want to talk about what is going to happen tonight, for instance.

I wouldn't go that far. Benefit of the doubt, he's just new and genuinely excited and wants to participate in the community. I fully understand that (obviously as I'm here). I just wish people would realize this is a community that does cater to both halves. Here we shouldn't be talking openly about what hasn't happened unless it's pure speculation or reason, as with every other show that's ever happened. If you want to talk about what will happen, go to http://forum.dvdtalk.com/tv-talk/590...rs-thread.html - I can guarantee you you won't have to deal with my "crying" there.

bmoney1023

Apparently I haven't hung around here long then. I don't doubt that there are others who shut themselves off from every possible bit of information about a show's upcoming episode. However, doing that and simply subscribing to a thread before it airs is different than reading all posts in said thread and getting upset because others are discussing what's shown in the previews.

I can understand being upset at some spoilers no matter how minor if they haven't been talked about yet. But just mentioning something that's in the preview for tonight's episode without getting into specific details should be fair game IMO.

JasonF

OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU INCONSIDERATE JACKASS!!!! Some of us don't like to know if there's even going to be an episode before it's time for the show. Personally, I like to turn to HBO and be surprised, but I guess that's out of the question for this week. Thanks for nothing, jerk face.

Groucho

These threads have, unfortunately, gotten unnecessarily snarky.

dino88

DJariya

I would be careful making that kind of remark (even if you are being sarcastic) A Mod might interpret that as a personal attack.

pinata242

I'm not upset about it, just annoyed. I go through the trouble of not watching previews. DJariya goes through the trouble of spoilering the synopsis. It's not too much trouble to do this instead, for example:

The trailer shows that

I guess common courtesy is dead

NORML54601

And so it's begun

pinata242

Back on topic: CAN'T WAIT!

NORML54601

Sunday has become by far my favorite night of tv. Animation Domination, Breakout Kings, GoT (re-air) and L&O: CI (re-air). Ass, meet recliner.

Gilgamesh1082

In all seriousness, I've read the books and forgotten 90% of what happens in 'em, and that right there is what's aggravating me. It seems that even after the episode airs, you can't even put a question out there regarding what you think might happen in the next episode or what you think of the extra material that's been posted on HBO's own website for ALL to see freely without being called down for spoilers. According to some, you should head on over to the spoiler filled thread, even if you haven't read the books, and put your discussion there, where your good intent will be for naught and you will have the show ruined for you.

It seems like we need 3 separate threads for this show weekly. The "Episode Name - OMNIPOTENT" thread, the "Episode Name - I like the show, watch TV and see trailers/adverts for said show, look at casting news, and I peruse the HBO site weekly" thread, and the "Game of Thrones Episode X Air Date XX/YY/ZZ - I don't even want to know the episode name and want to be surprised when the DVR shows me that a new Game of Thrones has been recorded with the last 2 minutes cut off to avoid the temptation of seeing a trailer" thread.

For those saying to use spoiler tags if in doubt, the way these current threads are, you should just spoiler everything you say. But if everyone does that, there's no real discussion because EVERYONE is scared to death to click on anyone's spoiler tag. If the mods will allow it, I'd love to create 3 separate threads weekly for this show based around what I listed above (with shorter thread titles, obviously ). This way, everyone's happy, nobody's snarky, and nobody has to be scared about getting yelled at because they're not purposely living under a rock so as to be surprised by EVERYTHING. Its a little excessive, but its much better than a TV Talk meltdown over this show.

Seconded.

DJariya

^^ I think that's a little too excessive.

I look at it this way. For a heavily serialized show like this, which obviously has alot of passionate fans, once the episode has officially aired, then all plot discussions about this particular episode are fair game. There is no need to go apeshit crazy & spoiler tag everything. If your clicking on this thread without watching this episode, then that's your own damn fault.

I only spoilerize the synopsis because I know alot of people in this forum like to watch serialized shows blind without any knowledge of plots etc and that's fine with me. I add the promo/trailer as a bonus, if it's around online. Noone is pointing a gun to your head to click it. But honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a 30 second promo or 1 minute trailer that ruined an episode for me.

Anyways, only 2 more hours until this airs. We will have threads for alll 10 episodes and that spoiler thread for anyone who feels the need to talk about more than the weekly episode. That should be enough. Case closed. Now, we can stop being snarky and just enjoy and talk about this episode?

DJariya

This isn't a spoiler. This was written in the Game of Thrones production diary on Who has done a better job raising their children Ned or Cersei?

http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/p...o-survive.html

Here's Cersei's side:

The Good:

- Possesses a deep love for her son Joffrey (though given her standards for appropriate family relations, this could be problematic …)

- Supports her son’s lifestyle choices: “If you want to f**k painted whores, then you’ll f**k painted whores. And if you want to lie with noble virgins, then that’s what you’ll do.”

The Bad:


- Doesn’t seem to spend much quality time with Tommen or Myrcella

- Has a documented history of attempting to murder children.