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Old 04-07-11 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric D.
"Forget all the atrocities going on in this world, Matt. The most important thing is that you stay on Redemption Island." Thus saith the lord.
The Lord has no problem with multitasking.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NORML54601
Excellent. Now that creekdipper and Setzer have arrived, the sermon can begin. Hopefully the mods lock this due to the idiocy now being propagated.
Wasn't preaching any religion smart ass, just tired of the religion bashing. But hey, this thread should have been locked long before Creekdipper and I got here for that same reason.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:28 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Poor Andrea. She's teamed up with Matt who clearly doesn't get the social part of this game. Then he tells Rob he was going to secretly oust him...and lumps Andrea into the plans! I don't think Rob sees Andrea a threat yet as she's stayed quiet, but she's having her game royally screwed over by Matt. I really like Matt, but he'll be surprised when he gets home how much Rob was playing the game and how little he himself was.
Matt is a dummy. He should have just told Rob that he has no ill feelings towards him and Ometepe and wants to stick with them. That's it. Nothing more needs to be said but no, he has to reveal everything. Initially I thought it wasn't a smart move to vote him out simply because you want to keep the numbers as long as possible but who's to say that at some point Andrea and Matt wouldn't flip, so good move by Rob to put him back on Redemption. Would not surprise me if he wins all the challenges but he's going to have some tougher competition this go around.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by Setzer
Wasn't preaching any religion smart ass, just tired of the religion bashing. But hey, this thread should have been locked long before Creekdipper and I got here for that same reason.
Really? Here's all that was said before creekdipper's rant.

Originally Posted by NORML54601
Matt: God hates you
Originally Posted by Eric D.
"Forget all the atrocities going on in this world, Matt. The most important thing is that you stay on Redemption Island." Thus saith the lord.
The thread should have been locked for that? I fail to see the bashing. I only see a couple people having some harmless fun. You guys seem overly sensitive.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:41 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by Setzer
Matt is a dummy. He should have just told Rob that he has no ill feelings towards him and Ometepe and wants to stick with them. That's it. Nothing more needs to be said but no, he has to reveal everything. Initially I thought it wasn't a smart move to vote him out simply because you want to keep the numbers as long as possible but who's to say that at some point Andrea and Matt wouldn't flip, so good move by Rob to put him back on Redemption. Would not surprise me if he wins all the challenges but he's going to have some tougher competition this go around.
Yep. The last thing you do in Survivor is volunteer information, unless it's absolutely necessary to save you're own skin. He could have kept his mouth shut, stuck with Rob and he would have been the only one on that side to know who on the other tribe has the Idol.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by creekdipper
Forgive me...I actually thought this thread was about all of the contestants and events in this week's episode (silly me).
Oh yes, because clearly the cabal of evil here has prohibited all discussion not related to Matt and his Bible-thumping.

Seriously dude.

Nonetheless, I think it's worth pointing out that not everyone who watches Survivor or reads these threads agrees with you.
Really? That's weird. I guess I shouldn't have posted "this is what I think and everyone agrees with me. Oh wait ... I didn't. But thank you for revealing to me that my opinions are not universal. Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that.

Every season has players who demonstrate egomania, stupidity, sorry attitude toward others, etc., but I don't hate them for it.
I don't recall seeing anyone say that they hate Matt. I know I've never said it. I think he's foolish and ill-equipped for the game, and I'm not above making fun of his nonsense, but I don't hate him. That's a strong word reserved for a very select few.

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Old 04-07-11 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Setzer
I don't go around on these threads poking fun at you because you're an atheist.
Good, because I'm not an athiest.

So please can we just lay off the religion bashing and stick with talking about the show....Survivor.
I'm pretty sure we have been. But thanks for trying to tell me which parts of Survivor I may discuss.
Old 04-07-11 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Poor Andrea. She's teamed up with Matt who clearly doesn't get the social part of this game. Then he tells Rob he was going to secretly oust him...and lumps Andrea into the plans! I don't think Rob sees Andrea a threat yet as she's stayed quiet, but she's having her game royally screwed over by Matt.
I highly doubt this is the case. I'm guessing it was just edited to look like she was still tied to Matt. She only had the first three days with Matt at the start and then had 17 days with the rest of the tribe after his elimination. I'd be surprised if she was anything other than a member of the main alliance. Rob obviously knew she was a rock solid vote or he wouldn't have even tried to go for Matt.
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It's amazing to me how the Jesus lovers in this thread want it locked, yet they are the ones preaching their views to everybody and calling us "non-believers" stupid. I never attacked the religion, but I made fun of Matt for thinking that god would give a shit about something so petty like Survivor. If you can't handle that without needing a diaper change, then....god help you.
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

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I highly doubt this is the case. I'm guessing it was just edited to look like she was still tied to Matt. She only had the first three days with Matt at the start and then had 17 days with the rest of the tribe after his elimination. I'd be surprised if she was anything other than a member of the main alliance. Rob obviously knew she was a rock solid vote or he wouldn't have even tried to go for Matt.
Yeah - that's what I said earlier. I don't think Rob crafts the vote that way (and doesn't play his Idol) unless he knows Andrea is locked in. There's too much risk otherwise.

The other beauty about Rob taking out Matt is that he knows he doesn't possess an Idol and can be almost certain a member of the other tribe isn't going to give their Idol to Matt.
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by Eric D.
It's amazing to me how the Jesus lovers in this thread want it locked, yet they are the ones preaching their views to everybody and calling us "non-believers" stupid. I never attacked the religion, but I made fun of Matt for thinking that god would give a shit about something so petty like Survivor. If you can't handle that without needing a diaper change, then....god help you.
Good, keep it going. Never said anything about wanting this thread locked because of the religion bashing. I was referring to the part about "idiocy being propgagted".
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Good, keep it going. Never said anything about wanting this thread locked because of the religion bashing. I was referring to the part about "idiocy being propgagted".
First you call us all stupid and now we're idiots just because we don't conform to your religious views? Talk about "bashing" a specific group. Well played, sir. Lead by example, huh?
Old 04-07-11 | 12:41 PM
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Jeff's blog was weak this week!
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Originally Posted by JuryDuty
Poor Andrea. She's teamed up with Matt who clearly doesn't get the social part of this game. Then he tells Rob he was going to secretly oust him...and lumps Andrea into the plans! I don't think Rob sees Andrea a threat yet as she's stayed quiet, but she's having her game royally screwed over by Matt. I really like Matt, but he'll be surprised when he gets home how much Rob was playing the game and how little he himself was.
I think Andrea is playing very well so far.

Yesterday's episode showed that Matt made plans and moves without discussing them with her and then basically threw her under the bus as a co-conspirator when he blabbed to Rob. Andrea doesn't seem like an irrational player to me and from her perspective, it makes no sense to hitch herself to Matt's wishy washy wagon. If she did flip, she's basically exchanging her 5th/6th position in Ometepe for 6th/7th in Zapetera.

Her best shot, I think, is to try and talk the Nat/Ash duo into some sort of girl alliance to boot the men after the remaining Zaps are eliminated. The other two girls seem to like her and after she can probably convince them that their best best to make it to the end is to form an alliance with her and blindside Rob and Grant.
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Originally Posted by Setzer
If it bothers someone so much that he talks about God then forward through it or mute it. No one is forcing you to watch/listen to what he's saying.
Ironic. No one is making you read the posts discussing the religious aspects of it. And yet ... here you are telling us to stop.

I'm sorry if I said "stupid atheist". I was pissed. I edited my original post.
You're sorry "if" you said it, or you're sorry THAT you said it? Because for someone complaining about a lack of tolerance here ... well, that irony meter is going off again.
Old 04-07-11 | 01:06 PM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by Eric D.
First you call us all stupid and now we're idiots just because we don't conform to your religious views? Talk about "bashing" a specific group. Well played, sir. Lead by example, huh?
You're making stuff up now. Keep it up!

Also I apologized and edited my original post but apparently some people, like yourself, can't read.
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"I apologized for calling you stupid, you ignorant jackass!"

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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

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Ironic. No one is making you read the posts discussing the religious aspects of it. And yet ... here you are telling us to stop.
So we can't discuss Survivor without bashing religion. I'm suppose to avoid this thread altogether because I don't share the beliefs of other people in this thread. That makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by mgbfan
You're sorry "if" you said it, or you're sorry THAT you said it? Because for someone complaining about a lack of tolerance here ... well, that irony meter is going off again.
I apologized for my comment and edited my original post. Apparently that wasn't good enough.
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So we can't discuss Survivor without bashing religion. I'm suppose to avoid this thread altogether because I don't share the beliefs of other people in this thread. That makes perfect sense.
Okay, we're running in circles. Perhaps I'm merely misunderstanding you. This is what I'm getting from you. Please clarify if I'm wrong.

A) If non-Christians don't like the fact that Matt spouts on about God helping him win challenges, they should fast forward through those parts and just shut up about the whole topic.

B) If Setzer doesn't like reading posts from people who don't like Matt droning on about God helping him win challenges, he should NOT be expected to skip them. Instead, the rest of the forum should conform to his wishes.

Is that about right? The non-believers should suck it up and skip the parts they don't like, but you shouldn't have to? Let me know if I'm losing track of your argument somewhere here.
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

mgbfan: "You're silly and foolish if you believe in God so you're not welcome in this thread."

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seems like its worked out well so far for him, take them out one at a time, re-enter when there is 5 left..., win the last 3 immunities, win $1mill.

he comes back into this game wins 2 immunities, he wins, no one will not vote for him...
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Originally Posted by dolphinboy
I'm about as non-religious as a person can be and I have no problem with any of this season's focus on Matt's strong religious beliefs and that a few others clearly share his strong convictions. And I like Matt, despite very different beliefs. And Andrea too. And the blond who gave him her bible. I had no problems with any of it/them.
My only problem with all of Matt's God-talk is that it serves as a red flag whenever he brings up his devotion before any Redemption Island challenge. I don't understand why they would want to telegraph him being the winner each time out, but they keep doing it.
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Originally Posted by mgbfan
Okay, we're running in circles. Perhaps I'm merely misunderstanding you. This is what I'm getting from you. Please clarify if I'm wrong.
I'm not saying anyone in this thread has to share my beliefs. I don't go around preaching to anyone they need to believe in God. All I'm saying is can't we discuss Survivor without poking fun at Matt's beliefs? You're pretty much calling him an idiot because he believes in God and anyone else that believes in him too. So because I don't share your beliefs that religion is silly and foolish I'm suppose to not post in this thread. Because that's exactly what you're saying.
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Sorry double post

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Originally Posted by Setzer
mgbfan: "You're silly and foolish if you believe in God so you're not welcome in this thread."

You're only foolish if you believe God is rigging Survivor for you (you seem determined to ignore the fact that I've mentioned on multiple occasions that I'm not an atheist). And NOBODY ever said anyone wasn't welcome. I merely told one poster (I think it was you, but I'm too lazy to go back and confirm) that if critical discussion of Matt's beliefs were going to be offensive to him, this might not be the best thread for him to read.


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