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Old 04-07-11 | 12:02 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

What I find funny is that the girls of Rob's tribe aren't remotely curious, at least by what we've been shown, as to why their tribe never received any clues to the HII, especially when one is played by the other tribe.

Wouldn't someone think, "Hey, why did the other tribe have a chance to find a HII, and we didn't? Seems a little unfair."
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What I find funny is that the girls of Rob's tribe aren't remotely curious, at least by what we've been shown, as to why their tribe never received any clues to the HII, especially when one is played by the other tribe.

Wouldn't someone think, "Hey, why did the other tribe have a chance to find a HII, and we didn't? Seems a little unfair."
Kristina originally had the idol and used it during the first or second tribal council. They may not be aware that after someone plays the idol it is put back into play.
Old 04-07-11 | 12:26 AM
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Kristina originally had the idol and used it during the first or second tribal council. They may not be aware that after someone plays the idol it is put back into play.
I suppose that is true, but now it isn't funny anymore.
Old 04-07-11 | 12:57 AM
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Jeff's blog is up early.

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Survivor: Redemption Island Episode 8 4/6/11
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Once again I enjoyed our “interactive living room” on Twitter. We’ve been tweeting live each week at 8pm EST/PST. You can catch the tweets @JeffProbst.

THE DUEL

I am guessing that almost everybody, short of Sarita’s family, was pulling for Matt to win the last duel before the merge. It has nothing to do with Sarita and everything to do with pulling for the underdog. Matt earned his shot back in the game.

I’m surprised that some of you are not enjoying Redemption Island. I certainly get a lot of comments from people who are enjoying it but I do get some from people who think it’s a bore.

I’m shocked that anybody could be bored with the Matt/Redemption Island storyline. But hey, I get it, everybody has their likes/dislikes.

As I’ve said many times the duels are put on the grid and built long before we know who will be competing. So imagine Matt’s surprise when the one challenge he didn’t want – a challenge that involved using the side of his now injured food – was the exact duel that was on the grid. Crazy Survivor luck.

Had he lost, it would have sucked to lose due to an injury but it would have been completely fair.

Truth is, I thought he was in real danger of losing. These challenges so often favor women and with his cut foot I thought he might be in trouble.

THE MERGE

Ah there is so much fun about the merge.

From a show point of view it’s a breath of fresh air as it almost always shakes things up. Solid alliances are now in danger. People on the bottom now have a new shot at moving up.

The Survivors get a merge feast, which always lifts their spirits and anytime you can lift their spirits it’s a good thing. That might sound counter to what you would think we want to have happen, but the truth is there is so much drama on a day-to-day basis, that a bit of happiness is always good. Balances things out.

They get new buffs, which invigorates them and often seems to refuel them.

And if I don’t have to be there, it’s an afternoon off for me!

MURLONIO

Rob: (to tribe) Murlonio means from the sea, united.

Rob: (interview)“Murlonio doesn’t mean anything. It’s a joke between me and Amber.”

I’m laughing because I’m imagining the reaction of the rest of the tribe when they heard this for the first time last night while watching the show. It’s so 5th grade and it has absolutely no impact on the show, but it’s still funny. I’m sure Rob and Amber were cracking up last night every time “Murlonio” popped up on the screen. I’ll ask Rob to bring the stuffed animal to the live show.

THE BALANCING CHALLENGE

As simple as this challenge is to recreate it’s still the same creative process as you have with an elaborate maze. You have an idea – let’s do something where they balance a ball on a plate. Then you play around with the idea and decide it’s too easy, we need to add a “wobble” element to it. But it’s still not hard enough, so we add another ball, and then another. Now we’re getting somewhere.

Most of our challenges first take shape months before we go to location. Our challenge team pitches us their slate of new challenges. In fact we’re doing this in two weeks here in LA in preparation for next year. The pitch is nothing more than ideas and sketches. After the pitch, some are approved, some are modified and some are sent back for re-tooling.

Once they’re approved they have to be built. This process can take between one to six weeks depending on the scope and size.

Once built they are then tested. During a test there are no cameras. Just our director, our dream team, our challenge producers and me.

Once we’re satisfied with the test block we move to a rehearsal. This requires our entire camera/audio operators, our director, challenge producers, dream team and all the support people.

We rehearse the challenge and give our final notes. Then the challenge is ready for the Survivors.

We do this whether it is a three person final episode endurance challenge or a two-tribe, 20 person boat race. We always follow the same process.

THE BIGGEST BLINSIDE OF THE SEASON

The second blindside of Matt was a great move by Rob and not a surprising one. Rob blindsided Matt the first time around so Rob had to believe he was a target. I’m not sure Matt had any real shot at surviving but he sealed his fate when he told Rob the truth that he considered switching to the other side. He just gave up way too many details. It’s like telling your girlfriend, “I was thinking about breaking up with you, but I decided not to.” What? You don’t tell them that. You either do it or you don’t — but sharing e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g is not always the right choice.

It makes sense that Matt was honest. It’s in his nature. But like the tale of the frog and the scorpion, nature can work for you and against you. This time the “nature” of Rob worked against Matt.

Mike gave it a great shot. He said all the right things. Offering to sabotage his own alliance and join forces with Matt in order to further his own game. He made the only real move he had at that point and it’s exactly what I would have done. It was a big move. Just because it didn’t work doesn’t mean it wasn’t a smart move.

The big question I have with Matt centers around how this impacts Matt’s faith in people.

Blindsided two times by people you trust… I wonder if it has changed Matt’s view of his fellow man or is Matt wise enough to realize that Survivor is just a game. It’s an ugly game at times but it’s just a game.

REDEMPTION ISLAND BEGINS AGAIN

Yes this was in the plan from the beginning. Redemption Island was going to resume immediately after the merge. In fact, when we pitched CBS one of the scenarios we gave them was the person on Redemption Island could earn their way back into the game and then be voted right out again. But nobody imagined that one guy would win six straight duels get back into the game at the merge and be the first person voted out again.

If there is a silver lining for Matt, it is the fact that if he can survive Redemption Island again and make it back to the final, his odds for winning are huge. At this point he is one of the biggest underdogs in Survivor history.

See ya next week!

And from CBS.com

Did Matt deserve to go back to Redemption Island considering he might have jeopardized Andrea’s position within their tribe? Andrea vents some more about how Matt threw her under the bus in this un-aired interview: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivo...LcBGEvjEjVPbez
Old 04-07-11 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by dfmaverick2
What I find funny is that the girls of Rob's tribe aren't remotely curious, at least by what we've been shown, as to why their tribe never received any clues to the HII, especially when one is played by the other tribe.
How would any viewers know what either Grant or the girls of Robs tribe are curious about or think about gamewise since the all the confessionals on Ometepe tribe have revolved around Rob,Phillip and previous boots.
Old 04-07-11 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Setzer
I don't go around on these threads poking fun at you because your a stupid atheist.
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Old 04-07-11 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Setzer
Normally I don't chime in on this stuff but I'm getting tired of you non-believers poking fun at Christianity. I don't go around on these threads poking fun at you because your a stupid atheist. So please can we just lay off the religion bashing and stick with talking about the show....Survivor.
LOL poor persecuted Christians. The topic is fair game because it's a prominent aspect on the show this season. If there is any atheist discussion among the players feel free to mock and ridicule it all you want. We make fun of their professions, personalities, strategies, intelligence, etc., we can damn well make fun of their religion too if we want.
Old 04-07-11 | 01:54 AM
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Normally I don't chime in on this stuff but I'm getting tired of you non-believers poking fun at Christianity. I don't go around on these threads poking fun at you because your a stupid atheist. So please can we just lay off the religion bashing and stick with talking about the show....Survivor.
I'm not bashing, but clearly religion has been a theme in this season, so people are bound to talk about it.
Old 04-07-11 | 02:17 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Matt seemed really PO'd when he got voted out again. Not afterward, but when the vote was first revealed. The return of Redemption Island makes Grant even tougher. Even if they vote him out, he has to get beaten in a duel as well then, if not, in another vote. A Matt-Grant showdown could be epic.

The Bushido speech was very funny, but I agree it probably wasn't as long as they mdae it appear. I would have really laughed, though, if it'd said "15 minutes.... 30 minutes..."
Old 04-07-11 | 02:29 AM
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Never mind. Religious debates never end well.
Old 04-07-11 | 02:41 AM
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Re: Survivor: Redemption Island -- April 6th, 2011

Originally Posted by Cellar Door
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If you're gonna be anal about stuff like this then maybe you should check your own spelling when making a post.....

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I thought at first that Cate Blanchett was British, but she's Australian. I don't generally have trouble distinguising British from Aussie accents, but I first saw Blanchett in Elizabeth and then in LOTR her accent sounded British.
Distinguishing
Old 04-07-11 | 02:48 AM
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I'm not bashing, but clearly religion has been a theme in this season, so people are bound to talk about it.
Yeah, I understand that but there's a difference between talking about it and making fun of/bashing it. If it bothers someone so much that he talks about God then forward through it or mute it. No one is forcing you to watch/listen to what he's saying.

I'm sorry if I said "stupid atheist". I was pissed. I edited my original post.
Old 04-07-11 | 02:49 AM
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If you're gonna be anal about stuff like this then maybe you should check your own spelling when making a post.....



Distinguishing
Wow. Did you really go searching through all his posts just for that? The only reason he made that post was because you made the error while calling someone stupid.
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I'm about as non-religious as a person can be and I have no problem with any of this season's focus on Matt's strong religious beliefs and that a few others clearly share his strong convictions. And I like Matt, despite very different beliefs. And Andrea too. And the blond who gave him her bible. I had no problems with any of it/them.

Yet, I find it amusing that at least one person posting here has a serious problem with those who make a few wise-cracks about all the G-d talk, yet took umbrage with Rob tonight because he's not AS religious as Matt and quite reasonably saw that any group that shared something very strong, like religion, might find a way to bond and form some kind of alliance that could be a threat to him. Rob's a liar because he's not religious enough or you don't believe him and think maybe he made up that he goes to church on Sundays just because he wanted to mock religion-the same way you see those who happen to not like all of the religious talk (or at least don't think it's ripe for making jokes about) in this thread?

Wow. Talk about having a double standard.

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Old 04-07-11 | 03:23 AM
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Excellent. Now that creekdipper and Setzer have arrived, the sermon can begin. Hopefully the mods lock this due to the idiocy now being propagated.
Old 04-07-11 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Setzer
If you're gonna be anal about stuff like this then maybe you should check your own spelling when making a post.....
I'm not a grammar nazi but--as dino88 said--I was making the point that if you're going to make a blanket statement calling a whole group of people stupid, then you'd better be goddamned careful about looking stupid yourself.

But nice detective work--searching through my posts in old threads until you found a typo.
Old 04-07-11 | 07:14 AM
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I can't believe no one has brought up what I thought was the best part of hte episode. Mike trying desperately to seem like he's interested in the bible with Matt and the blonde. Like how he said it was written so beautifully or something like that. He may be very religious, but we all know that was purely trying to get on Matt's good side. And then Rob laughing in the background.

Also, Sarita finally looked her age tonight. I honestly thought she was in her 50s, then my wife told me she was 37 or something like that.
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Sorry Matt but he should have just said I am loyal, I want stay ... not all this back and forth that made even Andrea question him. He even promised her not to say anything but then runs to Rob and spills the beans.
I yelled at the TV when he did that (I'd had a "few" beers). Why the heck tell Rob everything and then drag Andrea's name into it as well?

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I've finally decided who I'm rooting for: Grant.
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Boston Rob does it again. at godboy being sent packing again. That was a great move between that and flushing out the idol. At first I thought it was a risky move since we weren't really sure about Andrea, but Rob must have known she was a stone-cold lock to stick with him.

And he even names the new tribe with some bullshit word and people all nod their head immediately in agreement.

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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
And, on the subject of Matt's Christian beliefs, it's fine to put his trust in God. He just shouldn't have trusted Boston Rob...
Well said. People can think whatever they want about god, but you're not dealing with a god in this game (although Rob sometimes seems close to one ). You're dealing with people.
Old 04-07-11 | 08:50 AM
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They don't call him "The Robfather" for nothing. He's been playing a great game so far. But things are still a bit dicey--it will only take one person flipping to swing the balance of power.
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Originally Posted by LiquidSky
I've finally decided who I'm rooting for: Grant.
Same here. I love Boston Rob but have doubts he could actually win. I also think that Grant is more than Rob's grunt as many believe he is. It's just been to his advantage to go along with Rob so far.
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
Same here. I love Boston Rob but have doubts he could actually win. I also think that Grant is more than Rob's grunt as many believe he is. It's just been to his advantage to go along with Rob so far.
I don't believe for a second that Rob is going to win, but as long as he's there to the end, that's fine -- just for the entertainment factor.
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Poor Andrea. She's teamed up with Matt who clearly doesn't get the social part of this game. Then he tells Rob he was going to secretly oust him...and lumps Andrea into the plans! I don't think Rob sees Andrea a threat yet as she's stayed quiet, but she's having her game royally screwed over by Matt. I really like Matt, but he'll be surprised when he gets home how much Rob was playing the game and how little he himself was.


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