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superfro 11-23-10 02:59 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 10507552)
This quote just confuses me. Hardcore horror fans like a lot of movies with plots that are full of holes and characters that do totally nonsensical things.

:lol: :up:

Panda Phil 11-23-10 03:38 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Shazam (Post 10507566)
I wonder if there actually are Koreans in Atlanta. I'd thought they'd get strung up there.

Of course not silly person. Atlanta's a modern city now. Most of the buildings even have indoor toilets! ;)

(I spent 30 of my 47 years on this planet there, so I can say that)


Speaking of race, its a minor quibble, but unless things changed radically after I moved away, there really should be a larger percentage of african american zombies.

Dr Mabuse 11-23-10 04:05 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10507363)
I just think that so many hardcore horror fans are giving a lot of the elements of the show a pass because it exists. If this was a theatrical flick it'd have been eviscerated. Somehow, because it's on AMC and that it's a zombie show with gore it's all good.

It's not. It's a huge opportunity being squandered...

Yeah... it could have easily been spectacular. That's what bugs me.

Every pathetically stupid piece of writing(most of it) could have accomplished the very same thing in the plot had it been thought out just a little, and thus become more intelligent, and true to the characters and overall realism. The show could have been amazing had this been the approach.

It's almost like they think it doesn't matter if it's stupid, and they need not worry about the quality of writing simply because it's horror. That's true in movies as well.

Since it's a ratings success that yet again rewards mediocrity, just like the many 'blockbuster' films. There is always the largest appetite for mediocrity.

"There is always a heavy demand for fresh mediocrity. In every generation the least cultivated taste has the largest appetite." - Paul Gauguin.

I do get a kick out of the fanboys in this thread who need a Kleenex or throw a tantwum if anyone finds even the slightest fault with any aspect of the show

Panda Phil 11-23-10 04:29 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10507829)


I do get a kick out of the fanboys in this thread who need a Kleenex or throw a tantwum if anyone finds even the slightest fault with any aspect of the show


Or maybe its that some of us don't see all the problems you keep going on about.

Maybe its my own fault for not slavishly watching and reading every single zombie story that comes down the line.

Navinabob 11-23-10 04:41 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10507829)
Yeah... it could have easily been spectacular. That's what bugs me.

Every pathetically stupid piece of writing(most of it) could have accomplished the very same thing in the plot had it been thought out just a little, and thus become more intelligent, and true to the characters and overall realism. The show could have been amazing had this been the approach.

It's almost like they think it doesn't matter if it's stupid, and they need not worry about the quality of writing simply because it's horror. That's true in movies as well.

Since it's a ratings success that yet again rewards mediocrity, just like the many 'blockbuster' films. There is always the largest appetite for mediocrity.

"There is always a heavy demand for fresh mediocrity. In every generation the least cultivated taste has the largest appetite." - Paul Gauguin.

I do get a kick out of the fanboys in this thread who need a Kleenex or throw a tantwum if anyone finds even the slightest fault with any aspect of the show

The show has tons of faults. I don't think anyone would deny that... Unfortunately most of the comments are "The writing sucks! Everyone knows a horse liver has a slightly yellowish tinge to it. That was obviously a cow liver they used!!! For shame TV writers!"

Most people enjoy the writing, plot and characters. I thought the dialog was a bit forced & wooden in last last intro, and I think one other person said the same thing. Unfortunately what most people remember is the person who complained that they got the fishing jargon wrong in that scene.

It is like when someone tries to tell an entertaining story and there is that annoying guy who pipes in starting with the words "Well actually..." and proceeds to correct the most trivial of details. Completely missing the fact that there it a story being told and not someone providing dry testimony to the court.

mgbfan 11-23-10 04:43 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
I think people are more annoyed by the general threadcrapping and constant whining repetition. I have no stake in whether anyone else likes this. I just don't see the point of constantly whining about it. Don't freakin watch it, problem solved.

Raul3 11-23-10 05:14 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Great article in the new Entertainment Weekly, mild spoilers too.

And yeah, those of us who like the show know it's not perfect. But it's laughable, at best, seeing the same people repeating the same whining all the time.

Shazam 11-23-10 05:49 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Panda Phil (Post 10507768)
Of course not silly person. Atlanta's a modern city now. Most of the buildings even have indoor toilets! ;)

(I spent 30 of my 47 years on this planet there, so I can say that)


Speaking of race, its a minor quibble, but unless things changed radically after I moved away, there really should be a larger percentage of african american zombies.

I honestly have no idea, and am too lazy to look it up.

Navinabob 11-23-10 05:56 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Maybe zombie effects look better on a lighter skin? I mean "Lazy writing!!"

White: 41.4% (Non-Hispanic Whites: 39%)
Black or African American: 51.4%
Native American: 0.1%
Asian: 3.1%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: <0.1%
Some other race: 2.2%
Two or more races: 1.8%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race): 5.4%

sracer 11-23-10 06:09 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10507829)
I do get a kick out of the fanboys in this thread who need a Kleenex or throw a tantwum if anyone finds even the slightest fault with any aspect of the show

Tantrum? Nah. it is about having to deal with people who have a mental disorder that causes them to voluntarily inflict an unpleasant experience on themselves and then complain to others about it.

I predicted that there would be people who would watch all 6 episodes and complain about each and every one of them. That doesn't annoy me, it saddens me.

bluetoast 11-23-10 06:14 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
To be fair, some of those people are probaby giving the first season a shot, since it's only six episodes.

I've read all the comics, and have been since 2005. To whomever I've offended for saying that, please don't shoot me. But I also had problems with the characterization of the gang....they were revealed to be caregivers, and kind people, however they still were willing to let that one guy remain a hostage to Rick and co. (whom they assumed to be dangerous individuals) unless they get the guns?

Raul3 11-23-10 06:18 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Yeah, that wasn't really well executed. Or we didn't pay attention. I'll only have an issue with that if they come back to that group. Other way we can expect stuff like that when they meet other people, they only have 42 minutes to tell a story. I'm fine with that in a TV show.

Michael Corvin 11-23-10 06:31 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Have all the threads been like this? rotfl

bluetoast 11-23-10 06:39 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Except longer.

Navinabob 11-23-10 06:50 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
With bigger plot holes and worse writing.

superfro 11-23-10 07:29 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10508070)
Have all the threads been like this? rotfl

See what I'm saying? :up: :lol:

Seriously..somebody literally called Morgan a pussy in the first episode because he couldn't shoot his zombified wife. This is what you're missing. ;)

Philzilla 11-23-10 08:37 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Shazam (Post 10507566)
I wonder if there actually are Koreans in Atlanta. I'd thought they'd get strung up there.

No just Canadians

Shazam 11-23-10 10:10 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Philzilla (Post 10508255)
No just Canadians

Are you an anti-eh-ite?

JasonF 11-23-10 10:37 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by mkdevo (Post 10505097)
The one thing that bothered me in this episode was at the beginning when the guys were up on the roof. It seemed like they were forcibly explaining every single move of Merle's, just to satisfy the audience. "He must not have been able to cut the handcuffs because the blade was too dull." "He must have used his belt as a tourniquet - that's why there's not a lot of blood." "He must have burnt his nub with this flame." I dunno, that all just seemed way too forced to me, and I'd be fine leaving those "questions" unanswered.

Considering that last week, we got a dozen "Why wouldn't he just cut through the handcuffs instead of his wrist" posts, the explicit walkthrough of how Merle survived was probably necessary.

Gunde 11-24-10 01:47 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 10507552)
This quote just confuses me. Hardcore horror fans like a lot of movies with plots that are full of holes and characters that do totally nonsensical things.

Horror fans really are the most inconsistent (I'm one of them BTW :)).

One movie sucks because it makes no sense, another movie is awesome because it makes no sense.
One movie sucks because there's no plot, another movie is awesome because there's no plot.
One movie sucks because there's no explanation at the end, another movie is awesome because there's no explanation at the end.

Navinabob 11-24-10 02:32 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by JasonF (Post 10508431)
Considering that last week, we got a dozen "Why wouldn't he just cut through the handcuffs instead of his wrist" posts, the explicit walkthrough of how Merle survived was probably necessary.

Bingo... the funny part was the fact that the show was probably in the can for weeks before internet bitching even became a whiff of grumbling. So either the horrible comic writer predicted the plot holes and filled them in or the original writers didn't want to make the previous episode 40 minutes of Merle trying to escape and instead let the audience learn stuff the same time the characters did (like a good writer might). Either way some of the complainers do look a bit silly either way you cut it.

Dragon Tattoo 11-24-10 04:42 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 10508035)
To be fair, some of those people are probaby giving the first season a shot, since it's only six episodes.

Yeah, right. I bet my ass Mabuse will be back for Season Two, bitching even louder than he is now. I called it here first.

Charlie Goose 11-24-10 05:38 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Panda Phil (Post 10507768)
Speaking of race, its a minor quibble, but unless things changed radically after I moved away, there really should be a larger percentage of african american zombies.

Even black zombies are lazy!

Who's with me?

NORML54601 11-24-10 05:58 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Rewatched the ep tonight and I must have missed a bit the first time around. They made it pretty obvious Merle was the one who brought the walkers to the camp.

Michael Corvin 11-24-10 07:23 AM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
How so?


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