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slop101 11-22-10 02:47 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by TimeandTide (Post 10504435)
The zombie invasion at the end was worth sitting through yet another episode of terribly cliched and stilted writing. But really enjoying the guy with the crossbow though.

Stop thread-crapping! Every. Single. Thing. in this show is 100% awesome, all the time! And if you disagree at all, you're thread-crapping!

bluetoast 11-22-10 03:40 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 10492247)
I dunno man, I see people on the other side taking it seriously too...."Why don't the zombies do this, will they address the Zombie Handbook, why didn't this guy do that in this situation instead of this, If you mention that you've even glanced at the comics, then you're defending it to the death, etc." Maybe that last one's a stretch, but everyone's having fun I guess. :lol:

Maybe I wasn't so far off about that last one. :shrug:

Gunde 11-22-10 04:45 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 10504569)
Why are you still here?

He needs it to feel superior.

I gotta agree with Lemmy. Many of you obviously don't like zombie flicks. Why are you watching a zombie show? Or better yet, why are you expecting it to NOT be like a zombie flick?

Navinabob 11-22-10 05:00 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Lemmy (Post 10505089)
To any and all who have complained about this series:

I'll bet your zombie movie collection is mighty slim in the pickins' department, if your comments about the writing/direction/plot/motivation are any indication; this series makes mincemeat out of most zombie films. In fact, it ranks with the very best of them....and I'm not easily amused by zombie stuff, I've seen so much.

If any of you can name ten zombie films better than this series, I'd be amused to hear them. Because there probably aren't ten zombie films that are this fucking good.

I'm with this series until they have Rick jump a zombie shark on a jet-powered motorbike.

Well.....maybe not that long. :lol:

So far I'd rank:

1) Dead Set
2) Shaun of the Dead
3) The Walking Dead
4) Dawn of the Dead (remake)
5) Zombieland
6) Fido
7) Night of the Living Dead
8) Undead
9) Dawn of the Dead (Original)
10) Land of the Dead

I'd rank the originals higher had I not gotten spoiled by modern special effects.

kstublen 11-22-10 05:13 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
The Original Dawn Of The Dead, Shaun Of The Dead, and Zombieland are all better than this for sure.

islandclaws 11-22-10 05:24 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Navinabob (Post 10505665)
So far I'd rank:

1) Dead Set
2) Shaun of the Dead
3) The Walking Dead
4) Dawn of the Dead (remake)
5) Zombieland
6) Fido
7) Night of the Living Dead
8) Undead
9) Dawn of the Dead (Original)
10) Land of the Dead

I'd rank the originals higher had I not gotten spoiled by modern special effects.

Boo this man!

Modern special effects have spoiled films for me, too. But I don't think in the same way as they have for you.

sracer 11-22-10 05:37 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
Having watched literally every zombie movie ever made but never reading the comics, I find the potential for unpredictability intense. Even if an episode ends in a predictable manner there's enough uncertainty as an episode unfolds that the predictable isn't so predictable. (if that makes any sense)

I'm finding the series extremely entertaining. I feel sorry for those who, for whatever reason, don't.

I agree with Dennis Hopper's character in LAND OF THE DEAD when he said, "Zombies, man. They creep me out." ...and I love it. :)

SuckaMC 11-22-10 05:47 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by kantonburg (Post 10504966)
Spoiler:
The cab of the truck is open to the back. My wife suspected the same thing then remembered the cab being open.

I remembered that a bit later myself. Hmmmmm.

crazyronin 11-22-10 06:07 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10505356)
Stop thread-crapping! Every. Single. Thing. in this show is 100% awesome, all the time! And if you disagree at all, you're thread-crapping!

In the beginning, when the two girls are on the quarry, was some of the worst writing I've ever heard/seen. "Dry lures" and "wet lures?" Stillfishing with flyrods?
Drag noise when one of the girls has a "bite?"

Spoiler:
You refer to the gear as wet flies, dry flies and streamers. Lures are for hardware dunkers. Fish do not bite at flies, they strike. And you DO NOT STILLFISH with fly gear. Is this shit so hard? Does it take too long to do the most basic Google search?

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!


Other than that, enjoyed the show. Particularly
Spoiler:
the bat to the head at the end. Reminded me of what Stephen King said he went through with his television show.

covenant 11-22-10 06:13 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Nth Power (Post 10505174)
Thought it was an OK episode, but really dug the ending. I wasn't expecting the sister to get taken out so soon. Glad to see the wife beater/pedofile gone.

fixed

Panda Phil 11-22-10 06:22 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
My favorite bit. :)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/276900/evil2.jpg






Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 10505215)
The kid was yelling "Ayudenme! Ayudenme!" Spanish for "Help me! Help me!". So that kind of explains why the gang came in full force.

That doesn't explain why they left him there, although that may be explained by the final resolution.

I'm guessing it was his first time out and he was in the alley as a lookout. Cuz who else but a damn noob would be yelling at the top of his lungs in the middle of a freakin' zombie infestation?!

Coral 11-22-10 06:28 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
I'm also not getting why some keep coming into the thread just to say it's a horrible show with horrible writing. I figure they would stop watching the show if they find it that bad and there'd be no need to post in these threads.

I'm finding problems in the writing myself, but I'm still enjoying the show

I find it frustrating that the writers/director (in many shows) would get sloppy in some instances where it's easy enough to avoid the sloppiness.

I agree about the other way down from the roof coming out of nowhere was dumb. As well as Ed sitting there for 5 seconds waiting to be eaten (sorry, I don't buy shock as an excuse). And the guy realizing why he dug the holes in the first place - wasn't it kind of obvious to anyone what he was doing right from the start?

Like I said - still enjoying the show.

NORML54601 11-22-10 07:32 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Panda Phil (Post 10504664)
Jeez, give them a minute would you? Just because the sherriff didn't rush in that instant, shove the surviving sister to one side and put two rounds in the corpses skull...

I love how everyone complains in these threads because the characters aren't action heroes.

If you back through my posts in the threads for this show I doubt you'll find another complaint from me. I am absolutely loving the show.

It wasn't even so much that no one shot her right away as the fact the sister just kept leaning over her. I don't think it's been established yet how long it takes the body to become re-animated, but I sure as hell wouldn't lean over one, sister or not. :lol:

TimeandTide 11-22-10 07:47 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 10505879)
I'm also not getting why some keep coming into the thread just to say it's a horrible show with horrible writing. I figure they would stop watching the show if they find it that bad and there'd be no need to post in these threads.

Then this:


Originally Posted by Coral (Post 10505879)
[I'm finding problems in the writing myself, but I'm still enjoying the show

I find it frustrating that the writers/director (in many shows) would get sloppy in some instances where it's easy enough to avoid the sloppiness.

I agree about the other way down from the roof coming out of nowhere was dumb. As well as Ed sitting there for 5 seconds waiting to be eaten (sorry, I don't buy shock as an excuse). And the guy realizing why he dug the holes in the first place - wasn't it kind of obvious to anyone what he was doing right from the start?

Like I said - still enjoying the show.

So you criticize those of us who think the writing sucks and should stay far, far away from this thread, then manage to criticize the show's awful writing. -screwy-

As I mentioned before, while the writing is cringe-inducing at time, the show is still about zombies and is thus still entertaining as hell. (Guessing the other critics in this thread feel the same, and thus keep posting their thoughts on this flawed, fun show.)

Panda Phil 11-22-10 07:50 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by NORML54601 (Post 10506026)
If you back through my posts in the threads for this show I doubt you'll find another complaint from me. I am absolutely loving the show.

It wasn't even so much that no one shot her right away as the fact the sister just kept leaning over her. I don't think it's been established yet how long it takes the body to become re-animated, but I sure as hell wouldn't lean over one, sister or not. :lol:


Sorry, I didn't mean you personally. I guess all the griping is these threads is making me a bit grumpy.

To be honest though, Unless they've already faced it, I don't think anyone really knows how they'd react in any sort of life or death situation. Much less a zombie attack.

Coral 11-22-10 07:57 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by TimeandTide (Post 10506062)
So you criticize those of us who think the writing sucks and should stay far, far away from this thread, then manage to criticize the show's awful writing. -screwy-

As I mentioned before, while the writing is cringe-inducing at time, the show is still about zombies and is thus still entertaining as hell. (Guessing the other critics in this thread feel the same, and thus keep posting their thoughts on this flawed, fun show.)

You obviously didn't read what I wrote, or you just didn't understand my point. I criticized people for continuing to post in a thread of a show they find horrible. Basically, if you hate the show - then stay away... it makes no sense to post as it's thread-crapping. There's nothing wrong with criticizing aspects of the show even if you're enjoying it. It's done in the Dexter show thread as well as others.

I enjoy this show and will post issues I have with it (as well as things I enjoy) - and I look forward to reading criticizm's other have with the show, as long as it's not thread-crapping. Pretty simple.

Groucho 11-22-10 08:06 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
You are allowed to criticize the writing in this thread if you've met the following criteria:

1. You've read all the comics

2. All of your previous comments on this show have been positive.

3. You like Arcade Fire

BKenn01 11-22-10 08:14 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Panda Phil (Post 10505856)
My favorite bit. :)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/276900/evil2.jpg







I'm guessing it was his first time out and he was in the alley as a lookout. Cuz who else but a damn noob would be yelling at the top of his lungs in the middle of a freakin' zombie infestation?!

Yea, I loved the whole bad ass show from the gang leader that turned out to be a janitor and they were protecting an old folks home. That was not expected at all. As for me I am loving the show and I find it funny that people turn into a zombie show expecting "The Shawshank Redemption", I mean its a Zombie show it will never get a lot of mainstream respect for that very fact. But I find it to be well written and fits well with AMC.

My only dissapointment as I have said is that AMC only bought 6 episodes and the 2nd season will only be 13. Damned networks.

MLBFan24 11-22-10 08:17 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
I enjoyed this episode. First time I've seen that actor as a "nurse" instead of a gangbanger..haha

gmanca 11-22-10 08:49 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
The actor that got shot with the arrow in his ass was also the guy who got tangled in the barbed wire in the movie "Street Kings."

"What's your name son?"
"They call me Quicks!"
"Not quick enough"
"Get me out of this man, it's cuttin' me up dog!"

slop101 11-22-10 08:51 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Coral (Post 10506086)
You obviously didn't read what I wrote, or you just didn't understand my point. I criticized people for continuing to post in a thread of a show they find horrible. Basically, if you hate the show - then stay away... it makes no sense to post as it's thread-crapping. There's nothing wrong with criticizing aspects of the show even if you're enjoying it. It's done in the Dexter show thread as well as others.

I enjoy this show and will post issues I have with it (as well as things I enjoy) - and I look forward to reading criticizm's other have with the show, as long as it's not thread-crapping. Pretty simple.

Most of the people who are criticizing it are not calling it a horrible show, and they (we) certainly don't "hate" it. Why do you have to make it so black and white?

I do admit that maybe I've been a bit unfair to the show, holding up against other AMC shows that have excellent characterizations and dialog (Mad Men, Breaking Bad), instead of holding it up to other zombie movies. But criticizing that one aspect of the show is by no means thread-crapping. I don't understand people being so overly defensive in this instance - it's kinda weird actually.

Lateralus 11-22-10 09:05 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
NOt sure if this was mentioned in the other threads but here is a cool Google map of the things that happened in the comic books.

Major spoilers if you have not read the books!

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...d3ecc55ac63583

Cardiff Giant11 11-22-10 09:13 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 
After being very underwhelmed last week this was a marked improvement. I think I'm back on board for the remaining two episodes of the season.

FantasticVSDoom 11-22-10 09:32 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10506108)
You are allowed to criticize the writing in this thread if you've met the following criteria:

1. You've read all the comics

2. All of your previous comments on this show have been positive.

Woo hoo Im good :banana:


Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10506108)
You are allowed to criticize the writing in this thread if you've met the following criteria:
3. You like Arcade Fire

:sad:

Ropes Pierre 11-22-10 10:01 PM

Re: The Walking Dead -- "Vatos" -- 11/21/10
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10506108)
You are allowed to criticize the writing in this thread if you've met the following criteria:

1. You've read all the comics

2. All of your previous comments on this show have been positive.

3. You like Arcade Fire

4. You own a shirt from TeeFury with a Zombie theme on it.


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