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240 years seems a bit harsh. The sentence will get overturned on appeal.
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Can someone post a summary of McCoy's Third Man speech? I was watching it and the audio went on the HDTV channel that I was watching so I missed some chunks of it.
I liked the episode, and thought that the sentence was overkill as well. There was a similar case in the news in the past couple of weeks in China where a man sold fake formula, and a couple of babies died from malnutrition. This was in addition to the fake vaccines from a while back as well. |
I have no problem with the consecutive sentences. He deserves to be in prison for life. I was surprised McCoy never brought up "depraved indifference" which he likes so much.
One of the better episodes of the season (but still way short of SVU). And :up: to the new ADA. |
Originally Posted by movieking
Can someone post a summary of McCoy's Third Man speech? I was watching it and the audio went on the HDTV channel that I was watching so I missed some chunks of it.
"Do you know, I don't ever feel comfortable on these sort of things... Victims?" Lime asks Martins pointing to the people walking around beneath them, "Would you feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever?" At that point you can see that the defendent finally realized that what he did had consequences and that he was only concerned about the money and not the ramifications of his greed. Good twist. I've never seen "The Third Man", but I want to now. Thank heavens its on DVD (Criterion no less). :up: |
Thanks for the recap.
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Originally Posted by movielib
I have no problem with the consecutive sentences. He deserves to be in prison for life. I was surprised McCoy never brought up "depraved indifference" which he likes so much.
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I don't know much about law but it still seems a little harsh. 15 years is too little but 240 years seems too much. Isn't there a happy medium. I know a lot about the flu vaccine though and you can still get the flu even if you get the shot. It is not %100 effective. How did the kid die anyways? People with access to good healthcare rarely die from the flu without some kind of underlying disease or risk factor.
BTW if you haven't yet get a flu shot. Especially if you have any risk factors. They are available now and in danger of being thrown away for not being used. This is a much milder season but will probably increase in Feb. |
Originally Posted by Red Dog
NBC misleading viewers? I'm shocked. ;)
Annie is definitely a upgrade. The delivery of lines is much smoother. Her expressions are better. In other words, she looks and acts human. Not to mention, she's quite a looker. No, she's no Angie Harmon, but she has that Mediterranean look that I (and apparently Det. Fontana) love. Her picture is opening credits is very nice. Good episode too, although the judge allowing McCoy's speech comparing the defendant to Orson Wells in The Third Man was laughably ridiculous. Speaking of Det. Fontana, I've resumed my watching of Crime Story S1 on DVD. It is too bad that the eras aren't closer so they could have used the same characters. I think Lt. Torrello would have made a great L&O character. |
Law & Order 02/23/2005
Very interesting episode. For a while there:
Spoiler:
Don't wanna say too much til it airs in the US. |
if anyone cares, they were correct on NY law regarding using deadly force to prevent the escape of a person who has committed murder
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/c82/a12.html 4. A private person acting on his own account may use physical force, other than deadly physical force, upon another person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes such to be necessary to effect an arrest or to prevent the escape from custody of a person whom he reasonably believes to have committed an offense and who in fact has committed such offense;<b> and he may use deadly physical force for such purpose when he reasonably believes such to be necessary to:</b> (a) Defend himself or a third person from what he reasonably believes to be the use or imminent use of deadly physical force; or <b>(b) Effect the arrest of a person who has committed murder, manslaughter in the first degree, robbery, forcible rape or forcible sodomy and who is in immediate flight therefrom.</b> |
The mouth on that female defense attorney...:jawdrop:
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That was a good one. I don't recall L&O addressing the citizen's arrest before (sort of came close when they had the bounty hunter case several years ago). Heavy on the law, and I was pretty certain they had the actual law correct (as they usually do). Of course, as McCoy argued that law doesn't give the citizen pursuing the suspect carte blanche to effect said arrest; just like a police officer couldn't do the same. They would be held to same reckless or gross negligence standard. I don't see a jury letting someone like this off (best would be a hung jury), but hey, its L&O.
The confict btwn Van Buren and Fontana and McCoy and Borgia were all well-played too. |
I fully expected him to be found not guilty, but I thought that there was a chance that McCoy swayed the jury at the end. Guess not.
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Originally Posted by movieking
I fully expected him to be found not guilty, but I thought that there was a chance that McCoy swayed the jury at the end. Guess not.
I wasn't really paying close attention during that episode. I was waiting for Alexandra to say she was a lesbian when Jack told her she might want to leave the DA's office if she didn't agree with him:) |
What kind of guns do the deer have?
Same as the cows. |
oh, and unless that gun was made before 1994 it was illegal in NY
I clearly saw a bayonet lug on the front sight block |
Did they miss a scene last night? Like the one where they first talk to the suspect (stoller?)? I watched the episode with my girlfriend twice last night and we didn't see that guy Stoller until they got him in the interrogation room. In fact the first time I heard his name was when Fontana and his partner were walking out of the hospital room and into the elevator and they mentioned that he lied. Totally threw us off cause we spent the rest of the show trying to figure out where he came from.
On another note....is it me or do the female leads just keep getting worse and worse. I refuse to believe that L&O can't find a better actor than Borgia. |
Originally Posted by pdutta2000
On another note....is it me or do the female leads just keep getting worse and worse. I refuse to believe that L&O can't find a better actor than Borgia.
I think she's fine. Of course, given what preceded her, my frame of reference may be all out of whack. |
Originally Posted by pdutta2000
Did they miss a scene last night? Like the one where they first talk to the suspect (stoller?)? I watched the episode with my girlfriend twice last night and we didn't see that guy Stoller until they got him in the interrogation room. In fact the first time I heard his name was when Fontana and his partner were walking out of the hospital room and into the elevator and they mentioned that he lied. Totally threw us off cause we spent the rest of the show trying to figure out where he came from.
On another note....is it me or do the female leads just keep getting worse and worse. I refuse to believe that L&O can't find a better actor than Borgia. Anyone remember any info on the actual incident this was based on, I wanna search for it and can't remember any details at all. I only remember vaguely what really happened. |
An Asian guy. don't remember where he was from, shot and killed six people in Wisconsin after they got in a confrontation about him using their tree stand.
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Originally Posted by MrX
An Asian guy. don't remember where he was from, shot and killed six people in Wisconsin after they got in a confrontation about him using their tree stand.
So the hunting massacre part was ripped from the headlines; not the reckless citizen's arrest? If so, that is consistent with my L&O 'ripped from the headlines' theory - when they tangentially rip from the headlines, the plots are generally well done. When they borrow quite liberally from real life, that's where they run into problems. |
Originally Posted by MrX
An Asian guy. don't remember where he was from, shot and killed six people in Wisconsin after they got in a confrontation about him using their tree stand.
Found some infothrough yahoo |
Originally Posted by pdutta2000
On another note....is it me or do the female leads just keep getting worse and worse. I refuse to believe that L&O can't find a better actor than Borgia.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
No kidding. At least Rohm was attractive.
If you like ghosts. I think Annie Parisse is quite attractive. |
Originally Posted by Amel
You must have missed the first time they talked to him. Stoller was in a shed (barn or garage, I couldn't tell) when the detectives first talked to him. He lied about which exit he saw the "two" cars get off on.
Anyone remember any info on the actual incident this was based on, I wanna search for it and can't remember any details at all. I only remember vaguely what really happened. edit: for some reason that site's search won't go back more than 1 month edit again: found his name searching another forum I occasionally go to Chai Soua Vang. googling his name should get lots of stuff |
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