Deftones

exactly. sure, they had a plan on where they wanted to take the show, but using that scene as an example for everything that has happened in the past few seasons is a joke. i mean, if Locke started spouting off about a guy named Jacob, then maybe you'd have an argument.

Groucho

Smokey copied Locke. Locke's body remains a seperate entity.

If Jacob occupied Sayid, his powers would be somewhat different.

My guess is that Jacob and "Esau" both have the ability to "Smoke Out", and that depending on the appearance of the smoke monster in the show thus far it could be either one.

Draven

I want to be clear that I NEVER said I hated the show. Just that I'm disappointed in the direction.

I'm not looking for everything to wrapped up. I'm just looking for something, after 5 seaons, to be explained in a reasonable way. People are freaking out about the ash, saying "That's why it was around Jacob's house!" I say..."why does a line of ash keep this thing away?" I honestly hope they answer that. If this was a movie or a book, I guarantee someone would explain how it works.

Let me give you an example of a "mystery" that LOST solved well: the polar bear. You see the polar bear. You wonder how it got on the island. Then you find out about the others and their zoo, and the presence of the polar bear makes sense, as long as you accept the presence of the zoo, the Others, the island in general, etc. That was a good "answer" to the question. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR. For this issues to be somehow addressed.

I've watched and enjoyed plenty of "challenging" television over the years. My tastes aren't particularly mainstream. I'm just disappointed in LOST lately, but I will watch the rest of the season in the hopes that some of these things are addressed in a straightforward way, and because I like the actors, and because my wife loves the show.

Guess these threads are only for people who love the show. I suppose I'll chime in again if they do something I think is great.

For those that say "what's the point of complaining?"...I'd argue it's just as pointless to come in and say "I love this show!"

Groucho

Why does garlic repel vampires?

Why does a silver bullet kill werewolves?

DthRdrX

It took almost 3 years to reveal that the bears were there due to Dharma. Relax.

cleaver

Locke talking to Ben in the foot reminded me of Kurtz in Apocalypse Now.

Pointyskull

Or ghosts/demons being unable to cross a line of salt?

Pointyskull

I had the same thought.

siddd5

one of the few things about Lost that ever dissapointed me was the storyline of how they ended up back on the island after they were 'rescued'. that was lazy storytelling, and to me, had something to do with the fact that ABC cut down on the # of overall episodes for the series. If they had the chance to stretch that out, it couldve been much much better.

thought the premiere this year was fantastic

RoyalTea

There are still over 11 hours left of the show to tell.

If you're reading a 400 page mystery novel, and the mystery isn't solved by page 350, do you get upset?

cracksky

The hydrogen bomb reset the 1977 timeline and sent the losties forward to the 2007 present but it also started a new timeline where the plane doesn't crash. Nobody was too effected by the bomb blast/time shift because the moment it was set off, that timeline was erased. The losties had some residual effect like some temporary hearing loss and ending up in a tree.

The new timeline must be eliminated and the original restored. Jack and Locke will make contact and start to talk about their dreams/memories of the island. Eventually they will find Faraday and try and correct the timeline by getting back to the island but they don't know that it's under water.

The losties from 2007 have to decide whether it worked or not. Juliet said yes (she's right but she's doesn't know about the other timeline). Hopefully they'll figure out that they shouldn't be there if it worked.

They must stop the bomb from being used without being seen by anyone from 1977 and let The Incident happen as it originally did without the bomb. The losties will be sent to the 2007 present (including the living Juliet) and the 1977 Dharma team will do what they did and build the Swan station around The Incident.

The new timeline would now be gone but the losties are still separated on the island in the 2007 present with Locke being dead and Sayid resurrected and Ben useless.

Draven

Fair enough. But I can't recall a vampire or werewolf movie that didn't explain what vampires and werewolves were.

DVD Josh

This sounds familiar...

RocShemp

Well garlic affects your blood pressure by helping to keep it down. Given vampires need a constant infusion of fresh blood, one can assume their blood pressure is already low and thus they have an aversion to garlic.

Dunno about why a werewolf would have what must be a violent allergic reaction to silver yet doesn't succumb to lead poisoning from regular bullets.

Anubis2005X

Jacob/Man in Black/Smoke Monster all vaguely remind me of Supernatural (especially this season with the vessels). I wonder if it's something similar?

Matthew Ackerly

Jacob wanted Sayid brought to the temple for a reason and his survival must be important.

But, Sayid being Jacob seems to obvious. I can't see the writers going this route.

Sayid was clearly dead. When he awoke, even the japanese guy and four eyes, were shocked and surprised, so they must never have seen someone come back to life like that.

Remember, dead is dead.

RocShemp

I got that vibe too but seems the beings in LOST only copy rather than possess.

DVD Josh

Then clearly you are wrong. Because, as clearly explained by The Princess Bride, there's dead, and there's "mostly" dead.

chuckd21

Jacob's death was a little too Obi-Wan Kenobi for me.

I'm still very intrigued by Jacob saying "They're coming" as he died. No one seems to be talking about that.

Merkin Muffley

Miles' reaction made it pretty clear that Sayid never actually died.

RocShemp

Well I don't recall anyone giving Sayid a chocolate coverd pill so...

pinata242

You didn't see everything that happened under water while the hourglass ran its course.

RocShemp

Touché.

dx23

That's the same I don't get about people criticizing negatively last night show. It seems a lot of people wanted all mysteries resolved last night. Why would the writers do that if they have a lot of more episodes left?

Flave

I don't think we're dealing with alternate realities. (I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if this has already been discussed.)

Juliette's "last words" were "it worked". The bomb reset the timeline so they never crashed on the island in 2004. I think what's happening now is that Lost is back to doing flashbacks again. The events of the no-crash crowd are taking place in 2004 and the events of the island crowd is taking place in 2007 (today?). Notice that no one on the island is talking about the original crash or the bomb. And when Miles tells Sawyer Juliette's last words, he seems more confused than anything. What "worked"? Also, Juliette fell into a deep, deep hole in last year's finale but there she was close to the surface last night. Why? Because in this timeline, they never dug the hole that punctured the EM pocket. Thus no need for Desmond to be at the console for the 108 minute countdown. Thus Desmond was on the flight after finishing his race. Thus no crash of 815.

It's my opinion that the flashbacks are now going to tell the story of how the Losties still manage to get on the island without the 815 crash. And the island story (based on the new circumstances under which they came to the island) will progress to the finale to reveal what the island and Jacob/Smokie are all about.

And by having them end up on the island again the writers are revisiting the pervasive Lost theme of destiny and free-will.