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fujishig 08-20-12 12:35 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
So is the Tonight Show still #1 but with a smaller lead over the others, or is there some new show drawing viewers in late night?

Jay G. 08-20-12 01:32 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Tonight Show is still #1. I'm not sure how the ratings reflect with Leno's pre-Conan Tonight Show, but it seems reasonable to think that some viewers shifted to Conan, while overall viewership is on the decline as more people move to online viewing and alternative entertainment.

This article has some interesting notes:
http://www.whec.com/article/stories/...html?cat=10074

David Letterman, the host of a rival late-night show on CBS, accepted a significant pay cut in 2009...

...the cuts Friday, [are] expected to trim the program’s weekly budget by about $600,000, or 25 percent, to $1.7 million. That’s back to its levels of a few years ago.

...During Leno’s brief stint hosting his prime-time program, his show’s weekly budget escalated and wasn’t reduced significantly to reflect his return to the late-night slot until now.

pinata242 08-20-12 01:38 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Also Leno fans are more likely to die day-over-day than Conan's.

Quatermass 08-20-12 03:40 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
I'm surprised they have that many people on staff at Jay Leno presents The Internet

The Bus 08-21-12 06:09 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
What the fuck is wrong with NBC's finance department? :lol:

The Bus 08-21-12 06:09 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by Quatermass (Post 11353577)
I'm surprised they have that many people on staff at Jay Leno presents The Internet

You misspelled Tosh.whateverhisnameis.

CaptainMarvel 08-21-12 07:48 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by The Bus (Post 11354250)
You misspelled Tosh.whateverhisnameis.

"0" ... it's very tricky.

stingermck 08-21-12 10:35 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Jay Leno Addresses 'Tonight Show' Layoffs, Slams NBC and Comcast

On Friday, the NBC late-night program laid off about 20 employees; the direct cause of the cuts was not clear, nor were the departments hit. Meanwhile, execs at the Comcast, which owns the network, continue to evaluate the assets the company bought in early last year.

"Welcome to The Tonight Show, or as Comcast calls us, The Expendables! As you may have heard, our parent company has downsized The Tonight Show," Leno said during his monologue Monday (via Vulture). "And we've consistently been No. 1 in the ratings. And if you know anything about our network, that kind of thing is frowned upon."


While Tonight remains a regular ratings leader amongst its competition, its core audience has aged as younger viewers tune into rivals such as Jimmy Kimmel Live!, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Colbert Report.

"I have more bad news: turns out we've been taken over by Bain Capital!," Leno cracked, adding: "I KNEW something was going on. Friday morning I woke up and there was a peacock head in my bed."

As THR reported, Leno is paid approximately $30 million. He last reupped his contract in 2010 after reclaiming the Tonight Show from Conan O'Brien and, post-layoffs, is said to be taking a sizable pay cut.

Deftones 08-21-12 10:50 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
he reportedly took a pay cut to $20 million a year. if he's so pissed about the cuts, go down to $15 million a year. he always touts how proud he is that he never touches his tonight show money and lives on his stand up money. put your money where you mouth is you big-chinned fuckface.

Troy Stiffler 08-21-12 11:01 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
20 people @ $100k = $2M. Wouldn't those people actually work for Leno's company? Bah. I won't pretend to know Leno's finances.

Conan has always presented himself as a selfless dude. He seems more interested in making a show than making money. Not that he doesn't have an ego. He just has one of those good egos.

Josh-da-man 08-21-12 11:46 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
God, only $20 million a year. I wonder how he survives on that?

Bill Needle 08-21-12 12:09 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
On a side note, I have DVR'd Conan's new show since it started. I find I watch less and less of it, and if there is a recording conflict it is the one to go. At this point I only watch the scripted bits and a the occasional guests that intrigue me. I am more likely to watch Craig Furgeson or Jimmy Kimmel. I never watch Leno's show. Not because I hate Leno (I actually like the guy), but because the guest portion show is so incredibly phony and boring (even for a talk show). Letterman was my guy back in the day, and I still think he has the quickest natural wit. I think I started drifting away when his personal biases became part of his interviews.

mcnabb 08-21-12 12:13 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by Bill Needle (Post 11354712)
Letterman was my guy back in the day, and I still think he has the quickest natural wit. I think I started drifting away when his personal biases became part of his interviews.

Totally agree on Letterman, as something happened to him the past few years as just seems to be angry all the time. I still think he was at his best at 12:30 on NBC, and got a little too cocky when he went over to CBS. But I will say he is the best at interviewing a guest, and even though I am a fan at Leno, his interviews are terrible.

fujishig 08-21-12 12:26 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Kimmel is moving into this timeslot as well. I guess the show is doing well enough to go up directly against Letterman and Leno.

RichC2 08-21-12 12:32 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
I find myself watching late night talk less and less, I find Kimmel to have the funniest skits, Fallon to have the most creative/cool bits, I can't stand Leno anymore and never really cared for Letterman. I can't watch a full episode of Ferguson but he seems like a good guy and decent host, just some of the quirky stuff doesn't work for me. Conan has sort of lost me over the last year, it just feels a bit half-assed, though still enjoyable from time to time.

RUSF18 08-21-12 02:08 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
"Welcome to The Tonight Show, or as Comcast calls us, The Expendables!"

"That's cold, Jay!"

Quatermass 08-21-12 05:12 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11354750)
I find myself watching late night talk less and less, I find Kimmel to have the funniest skits, Fallon to have the most creative/cool bits, I can't stand Leno anymore and never really cared for Letterman. I can't watch a full episode of Ferguson but he seems like a good guy and decent host, just some of the quirky stuff doesn't work for me. Conan has sort of lost me over the last year, it just feels a bit half-assed, though still enjoyable from time to time.

Same here. Leno is like one of those people who just forwards stale emails to you daily. Letterman has devoted his entire show to ridiculing Mitt Romney for being rich, even though Letterman is worth at least twice as much as Romney. Kimmel is still funny, but he spends way too much time cross-promoting other ABC reality shows. I only see Fallon or Ferguson on Fridays because they are on too late, but it seems like Ferguson is just phoning it in now.

islandclaws 08-21-12 06:51 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 11354672)
God, only $20 million a year. I wonder how he survives on that?

Haven't you been reading this thread? That's his throwaway money. He probably uses it when he runs out of TP. It's not for spending!

anomynous 12-18-12 06:36 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Fallon replacing Leno?


I know it's from Ain't It Cool, but still worth posting.

wearetheborg 12-19-12 02:18 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Anyone watch "Serious Jibber Jabber with Conan"?
Its quite good. Conan can be a good host when he is having a meaningful conversation.

GuessWho 12-19-12 02:22 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 11511516)
I know it's from Ain't It Cool, but still worth posting.

AICN isn't the source.

If you read the AICN story, you'd see at the end they were just relaying the info in this story

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1220267

anomynous 12-19-12 03:20 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Forgive me massa

MrSmearkase 12-19-12 03:38 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
AICN hasn't broken a story in a long time.

JeffTheAlpaca 12-20-12 06:57 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Tonight Show is still #1. I'm not sure how the ratings reflect with Leno's pre-Conan Tonight Show, but it seems reasonable to think that some viewers shifted to Conan, while overall viewership is on the decline as more people move to online viewing and alternative entertainment.
A lot of people going online at 11:30pm or 12am?

Terminal 12-20-12 07:04 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by Deftones (Post 11354567)
he reportedly took a pay cut to $20 million a year. if he's so pissed about the cuts, go down to $15 million a year. he always touts how proud he is that he never touches his tonight show money and lives on his stand up money. put your money where you mouth is you big-chinned fuckface.

That's like giving someone the frosting and eating the cake. Big fucking deal.


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