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Darknite39 02-08-10 12:16 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.co...came-together/

Spoiler:
Jay and Dave together? Could it be true?

It is, and there they were, Jay Leno and David Letterman sitting on a couch – with Oprah Winfrey between them - upstairs at the Ed Sullivan Theater, where Mr. Letterman tapes his show.

The spot was shot last Tuesday afternoon, under the strictest of secrecy which involved both Mr. Leno and Ms. Winfrey flying in surreptitiously to New York, and arriving incognito at the theater, while Mr. Letterman was in the midst of taping his show for that night. It also involved Jay wearing a disguise: hooded sweatshirt, glasses and faux mustache. If you happened to be on Broadway between 53rd and 54th street last Tuesday about 4:15, you might have seen a man fitting that description slip into the theater by a small entrance under the marquee.

According to staff members of the “Late Show with David Letterman” who were on the scene that day - including the executive producer Rob Burnett – it all happened because Mr. Letterman had an idea he thought would be truly funny: a Super Bowl ad that featured the two longest-running adversaries in late night, sitting with Ms. Winfrey as though at a Super Bowl party.

What gave the idea extra spin, of course, was that the relationship between Mr. Letterman and Mr. Leno has been especially fractious of late in the wake of NBC’s moves that led to the departure of Conan O’Brien from the “Tonight” show and Mr. Leno’s impending return to the show, where he will once again go head to head with Mr. Letterman.

In the weeks since the decision was announced, Mr. Letterman had been notably acerbic in his on-air jokes about Mr. Leno, suggesting he was a schemer in some way in the moves that led to the changes in late night, and Mr. Leno had responded with jokes about Mr. Letterman’s well-covered romantic entanglements.

That added to the surprise viewers encountered when the ad came up and there the two comics were, flanking Ms. Winfrey, in essence for a promotion for Mr. Letterman’s show.

As Mr. Burnett described it, Mr. Letterman had the idea to invite Mr. Leno to participate, playing off a similar ad he put together with Ms. Winfrey the last time CBS had the Super Bowl in 2007. “Dave wrote the bit himself,” Mr. Burnett said. “He just thought: it’s the Super Bowl, you’re supposed to entertain people.”

Steps were taken to contact Ms. Winfrey, who agreed immediately, Mr. Burnett said, and then Mr. Leno. Mr. Burnett said he spoke with Mr. Leno’s executive producer, Debbie Vickers. “She asked if this was for real and then she laughed for about 10 minutes,” Mr. Burnett said.

Mr. Leno quickly agreed, but the idea had to be passed by the top NBC executives, including the chief executive, Jeff Zucker. Permission was granted.

Mr. Leno was able to get Tuesday free – NBC had rearranged its schedule to pre-empt his 10 p.m. show that night - and took the NBC corporate jet, Mr. Burnett said. There seemed little chance though that Mr. Leno could sneak into Mr. Letterman’s theater unseen, so the idea was hatched to try to sneak him in during a live taping - in disguise.

Both guests turned up while Mr. Letterman was on stage doing his show. They were kept in a secret green room until the show was over and the theater was cleared. Then Mr. Leno and Ms. Winfrey went up to the theater balcony where a living room set was fashioned with a faux TV and a couch.

Mr. Letterman arrived a short time later. The two late-night rivals greeted each other warmly, Mr. Burnett said. “It was very friendly, very professional, totally cordial,” he said. “You could tell these were two guys who have known each other for a long time.”

The idea Mr. Letterman came up with was for him to be first seen alone, complaining about being at the worst Super Bowl party ever - then to be seen in a two-shot with Ms. Winfrey as he had been in 2007, with her telling him to be nice. And then Mr. Leno would be revealed at the other end of the couch saying that Mr. Letterman was only complaining because he was there.

Mr. Letterman followed doing a mock-Jay voice. The entire spot was shot quickly and efficiently, Mr. Burnett said. “I’d say it took no more that 20 or 30 minutes,” he said.

“I think everybody wanted to do it just because they all knew it would get attention and they all just wanted to do something funny.”

After the taping was completed, Mr. Letterman thanked his guests and they said a cordial goodbye, Mr. Burnett said. The two stars slipped back out into the Manhattan night, Mr. Leno back in his faux mustache.

“This wasn’t done to help Dave or to help Jay,” Mr. Burnett said, “though I think it does help both of them. It was just done because Dave thought it would be funny and would entertain people. Nothing went beyond that.”

Fist of Doom 02-08-10 12:57 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
^All that bullshit trouble for a mildly amusing 15 second commercial?

:rolleyes:

Darknite39 02-08-10 12:59 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
It certainly got a lot of attention, though.

Count Dooku 02-08-10 04:52 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Dave Wanted Conan for Super Bowl Spot

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/da...wl-promo-13978

Michael Corvin 02-08-10 06:05 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

it all happened because Mr. Letterman had an idea he thought would be truly funny: a Super Bowl ad that featured the two longest-running adversaries in late night, sitting with Ms. Winfrey as though at a Super Bowl party.

“Dave wrote the bit himself,”
Well that certainly explains why it wasn't funny.

Sonic 02-08-10 10:41 AM

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Damn they were trying to get Conan into that Superbowl skit...surely they weren't expecting him to say yes lol

I found the commercial cool, but not that funny.

kefrank 02-08-10 11:18 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Maybe I'm a cynic, but I really don't think Leno would have done that spot, nor would NBC have approved it, if Leno wasn't desperately in need of some better PR. Doing the commercial makes him look like a "good sport" and I'm sure they all hoped it would help repair his image.

Nefarious 02-08-10 11:43 AM

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I agree with you. Even though it pokes some fun at Jay, he's getting Superbowl level exposure (at CBS' expense minus the NBC corporate jet trip) with Oprah & Dave.

It's so tame in the material that it certainly shouldn't hurt him in anyone's eyes. I think they (Jay & NBC) only saw it as being able to help them.

dx23 02-08-10 12:55 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
I found the commercial shocking, not funny.

LickTheABCs 02-08-10 02:05 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
What's left of the Tonight Show..

still sad.

outcastja 02-08-10 02:20 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
I thought Letterman doing his Leno voice with Leno sitting there pretty funny.

DRG 02-08-10 04:44 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
I think that Super Bowl could have been funnier, but the editing/timing seemed off. It felt too rushed, like they were trying to squeeze a 30-second promo into a 15-second spot.

spainlinx0 02-08-10 09:23 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
That totally takes the fun out of the late night battle. Now who cares about when Jay gets back. All the heat about "what's he going to say," or "is Dave going to really attack him now that's head to head again" is gone. Talk about taking the wind out of the sails.

Also, the commercial wasn't funny. It was shocking, yes, but in the end, just really disappointing.

SpanishTechno 02-08-10 10:44 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by spainlinx0 (Post 9988893)
That totally takes the fun out of the late night battle. Now who cares about when Jay gets back. All the heat about "what's he going to say," or "is Dave going to really attack him now that's head to head again" is gone. Talk about taking the wind out of the sails.

Also, the commercial wasn't funny. It was shocking, yes, but in the end, just really disappointing.

We got to see them battle each other for a while and now they're moving on. It would be pretty immature for them to just keep duking it out every night, especially since the Conan thing has died down a lot.

As for the commercial, I thought it was funny because it was shocking... they went through a lot of trouble to keep it a secret and it paid off. It wasn't supposed to be this side-splitting joke, it was just something fun they did to show that there's no hard feelings and that they're ready to move on.

Luds 02-09-10 10:53 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 9987290)
Well that certainly explains why it wasn't funny.

lol! Touché !

resinrats 02-09-10 11:14 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Its the one commerical I've thought about the most so it did its job.

Even watched Dave yesterday to see if it would get mentioned. It did. Even had a few mentions of Jay that weren't jokes against him. I didn't hear a single anti-Jay joke.

TheGuy 02-09-10 10:23 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
http://www.salon.com/ent/tv/2010/02/...sing_from_nbc/


Hey, remember that time you cut your ex's face out of all the wedding photos? Now imagine you're NBC.

One would hardly expect the network, which parted ways with Conan O'Brien in January, to keep a lot of sentimental mementos hanging around. But considering the long history O'Brien had there, you might expect something to remain, if only for the fans. Think again. NBC has quietly scrubbed the redheaded host from its history. Not content to have his image removed from the mural at 30 Rock (replaced by one of -- ouch! -- Jay Leno) and his set dismantled, the network appears to have obliterated his whole oeuvre from Hulu and the NBC online archives. There aren't even any photos of the guy to be found on NBC's Web page.

As James Poniewozik at Time points out, NBC is certainly under no obligation to make nice for the sake of the kids, and there may be a compelling contractual reason for the abrupt purge. The network's official explanation to Time was a terse "No comment." Still, it sure feels like a full-scale O'Brienectomy. Conan? Conan who?

So if you'd been feeling nostalgic for those magic moments before the relationship went bad -- or, for that matter, the really awesome ones after it did -- looks like you're going to have to rely on YouTube from here on out.

Count Dooku 02-10-10 06:02 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Did NBC guarantee Conan that he would host The Tonight Show starting at 11:35 in his contract?

If there was one big mystery in the Great Late-Night Fiasco of 2010, it was whether NBC actually specified in Conan O'Brien's contract that “The Tonight Show” had to begin at 11:35 p.m. This seemingly small detail was of crucial importance to O’Brien, who ended up exiting the network rather than accepting NBC’s offer to move him and “Tonight” to 12:05 a.m. -- a potential violation of his deal, which was never made public.

But we've finally tracked down a copy of the O’Brien contract, and -- lo and behold -- NBC did define “Tonight” as the series that airs at 11:35 as far back as 2002. However, what may have emboldened NBC to move the program anyway was the absence of that key language from later amendments to the deal.


Read the rest of the story at
http://www.thresq.com/2010/02/conan-...-revealed.html

stingermck 02-10-10 03:26 PM

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An overwhelming 69 percent of voters in a TVGuide.com poll said they used to watch Jay Leno, but will not watch anymore after what happened to Conan O'Brien.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/TVGuide-...b&profileid=01

kefrank 02-10-10 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 9992301)

There's a part of me that really hopes the Tonight Show ratings go in the tank when Jay returns - not to spite Leno necessarily, but just to pile more egg on NBC's face for the whole debacle.

pinata242 02-10-10 05:03 PM

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I don't trust any dot-com poll. That's skewed towards Conan's demographic. I would vote that way and I never watched Leno.

stingermck 02-16-10 06:05 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Kevin Eubanks out of 'The Tonight Show;' more changes afoot?
by Lynette Rice
Categories: News, TV Biz

NBC confirmed online reports today that Kevin Eubanks, Jay Leno’s affable bandleader, will step down from his post sometime after original installments of The Tonight Show resume in March. Eubanks told the peacock he wants to try other things, a network insider said, though it’s still not clear when he’ll abdicate his late night gig (or whether the entire band will go with him). For now, he is expected to be present for Leno’s much-talked about return to Tonight on March 1.

Eubanks’ potential replacement and the band’s status is one of many logistical issues confronting Leno, as he and executive producer Debbie Vickers prepare for their next chapter in late night. One thing’s for certain: he and his staff won’t return to The Tonight Show’s old sound stage on the Burbank lot, much less take over the fancy new digs that were built for Conan O’Brien in Universal City. Instead, Leno will tape Tonight from the set of his short-lived primetime show, also in Burbank, though the look of the place is sure to change. NBC has yet to decide, in the meantime, what do with O’Brien’s old sound stage – though it could accommodate, say, a multi-camera sitcom (NBC’s developing five, in fact, for the 2010-11 season).

Once back on Tonight, Leno will likely stick with the brief opening segment where he high-fives members of the audience, not to mention running gags like headlines. NBC is not ready to announce his first guest (Jerry Seinfeld occupied the chair when Leno premiered in primetime just four months ago).

Promos for Leno’s return are expected to start airing this week during the Winter Olympics — though the comedian got a nice boost last month by participating in a promo for CBS’ The Late Show with David Letterman and Oprah Winfrey that aired during the Super Bowl. The low-cost spot ended up upstaging most of the other commercials that cost millions to produce and air.
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/...-tonight-show/

mwbmis 02-16-10 11:12 PM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
It's worth pointing out for those interested: the Late Shift by Bill Carter is back in print. I just got my copy from Amazon.

JeffTheAlpaca 02-17-10 07:38 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 
Is it possible Conan never returns to late night TV?

I can't believe the local FOX affiliates believe reruns of Seinfield and Friends or whatever syndicated shows they air are more valuable than Conan and they do not want to give up those programs they claim make a profit.


Even if FOX picked up Conan they would probably fire him after 8 months and try to replace him with Jimmy Kimmel if ABC cut him.

Pissed off.

Jay G. 02-17-10 11:30 AM

Re: NBC: let's see how low we can go (Conan thread, part 2)
 

Originally Posted by JeffTheAlpaca (Post 10003258)
Is it possible Conan never returns to late night TV?

Don't assume that nothing's being done just because you haven't heard any news in a few days.


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