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Old 02-24-09 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by gmanca
Plus, I like the whole prison angle with cells designed to be opposite to the powers; that technique was used in an Avengers Annual where the Avengers get arrested by the Government because they are too powerful.
Interesting...

I would have gone with:
Old 02-24-09 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by FatTony
If I were a betting man, I'd say that the head of the strike team (whatever his name is) is Sylar's dad. That would provoke the kind of "WTF!?" reaction in the writer's room that they seem to be aching to get out of fans of this show.
I guess I'm the only one who remembers the truth about the confirmed identity of Sylar's father...

Spoiler:
John Glover will play Sylar's dad. I keep waiting for him to appear, and it's really fucking irritating now...shit, I could drive in real time with the show across the country faster than this!
Old 02-24-09 | 09:13 PM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Well I'm not going to read your spoiler, since I avoid spoilers for everything but reality shows, but I don't like to see my theories shot down due to outside knowledge.
Old 02-24-09 | 11:28 PM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

What's stupid is, what was it last season or 1st season?...when Parkman was able to do what his Father could do by making people believe what he wanted in one ep to save that girl? Now he's back to barely being able to read minds.
Matt should be stronger then that, must be HRG's training it appears.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

HRG seems to switch sides more often than Lindsey Lohan...
Old 02-25-09 | 12:41 AM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

I care less and less every week, that's all I know.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

What does everyone think they will do in season four?

Bomb number 141265?
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by spainlinx0
Well I'm not going to read your spoiler, since I avoid spoilers for everything but reality shows, but I don't like to see my theories shot down due to outside knowledge.
I read the spoiler and your theory could likely still happen. But I just figured it was only Nathan that was in charge of the round up, he was shown speaking to the president directly, I don't see anyone else above him in charge.

-Edit oh wait you mean the creepy, small, pale, bald guy. Yeah, Sylar deserves a better father than that guy.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

At this point I think Sylar is the only character who has not only embraced his abilities, but has mastered them. He knows what he is and enjoys it. I think this is why Sylar is so popular. Even with him switching between "good" and evil, his confidence and security in his abilities never wavers.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by aintnosin
HRG seems to switch sides more often than Lindsey Lohan...

yep, and it's lame each time.
Old 02-25-09 | 07:16 AM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
At this point I think Sylar is the only character who has not only embraced his abilities, but has mastered them. He knows what he is and enjoys it. I think this is why Sylar is so popular. Even with him switching between "good" and evil, his confidence and security in his abilities never wavers.
You're probably right about that. I just like that Sylar has the "lying" ability and actually USES it properly. You just know if Sylar got the flying ability that he wouldn't ever be traveling in a car or walking.

The other guys seem to waste their powers. Peter especially frustrated me to no end with the fact that he didn't use obvious powers constantly. I still laugh at him bleeding from his nose trying to telepathically open the vault door to get the virus rather than just walking through it.
Old 02-25-09 | 07:17 AM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Also, the one reason I can forgive HRG's side-switching is that I don't really consider him on any side. I just consider him on his own side and whoever that happens to align with at the moment is his side.
Old 02-25-09 | 08:33 AM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

I actually like HRG. My second favorite character after Sylar, of course.

But yeah, he goes lower in my list whenever he's with Claire bear...
Old 02-25-09 | 12:21 PM
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by aintnosin
HRG seems to switch sides more often than Lindsey Lohan...
But he's only doing it for Claire!

But Claire is angry at him for it and doesn't trust him!

But then Claire realizes he did it for her and loves him again!

But then he appears to switch sides and does something else seemingly evil!

But he's only doing it for Claire!

But Claire is angry at him...etc. to infinity.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix
Interesting...

I would have gone with:
Weird, I was sorting through some boxes from my parents' attic last night and found that very issue.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Some good points spainlinx.

I especially agree about the Peter/commander scene. It would have been awesome if he had put a bullet in that guys head, but I didn't think it would happen for a second. First, because as much as they like to show alternate future badass versions of the regular characters, they remain goody goody wimps. Second, they spent half the episode pussyfooting around mindreading Noah and now Peter is going to assassinate someone? Yeah, right. And finally, while I'm not buying the guy is going to be Sylar's dad I still think he will play a greater role at least for the rest of this volume.

I was also disappointed with the Mohinder restraints. It looked like the same thing they had Tracy in. For a show that loves cool visuals they really missed an opportunity.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

"Heroes - No one ever dies"
In this case, it's a good thing. Daphne gives me the hot. What's up with Parkman reading Noah. It looks like he was constipated the whole time.
I want to know how this strike team is getting back and forth across the entire country so quickly. Costa Verde; Wash. D.C.;Costa Verde; Wash. D.C.

Does Peter/Nathan have a speed limit? How fast can they fly?
When are we going to meet President Worf again???
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

They can fly as fast as the story requires.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

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"Heroes - No one ever dies"
In this case, it's a good thing. Daphne gives me the hot. What's up with Parkman reading Noah. It looks like he was constipated the whole time.
This is how he always invokes his powers (enhanced by the camera shaking and zooming).

Finally watched the episode. Again, I like that they featured some characters and didn't try to shoehorn everyone in every episode. HRG sans Claire Bear is always good for the show.

I liked that Suresh called Nathan out on the idiocy of his plan.

I liked how HRG automatically assumed that Nathan and his task force would follow his lead, only to be put in his place. Also liked that they at least explained why they wouldn't try to team up with other powers to get this done.

I may have missed something here... didn't Nathan ask how HRG had tracked all the heroes down, and then they went into the storage area to get... guns? I thought he'd have all the Primatech files or something.

Lame using Daphne to "convince" Mohinder to work for them. Would've worked better on Parkman, or maybe using Maya.

What was Peter's plan again, when he flew into that guys house? Like the government wouldn't get another killer to replace that guy, even if he did have the guts to shoot him? Oh, right, he didn't have a plan.

What was Parkman and Mohinder's plan? Oh right, go ahead and read his mind, I'll hold them off... for about three seconds, at which point they'll bag and tag me, and you're on your own.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by fujishig
I may have missed something here... didn't Nathan ask how HRG had tracked all the heroes down, and then they went into the storage area to get... guns? I thought he'd have all the Primatech files or something.
There were boxes full of files in that room, and even files in the box with the guns.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by fujishig

Lame using Daphne to "convince" Mohinder to work for them. Would've worked better on Parkman, or maybe using Maya.


What was Parkman and Mohinder's plan? Oh right, go ahead and read his mind, I'll hold them off... for about three seconds, at which point they'll bag and tag me, and you're on your own.
Wasn't Nathan exploiting Mohinder's guilt over his spider web thing?

Also, Parkman was a total fuck up this ep. He was trying to be all Badassgonnakickmesomeass because he thought Daphne was dead. He had no real plan and was out of his mind with grief. Sadly, neither Parkman nor the actor playing him, could pull it off. He just looked stupid.

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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
I read the spoiler and your theory could likely still happen.
How?
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by majorjoe23
Weird, I was sorting through some boxes from my parents' attic last night and found that very issue.
Well, the individually-tailored cells actually are addressed in-depth in issue 147, but since this was the 'start' of that arc, I put this cover on.

Hope you read it. That's an awesome tale.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

I haven't read it since I was 15 or so, but I may give it another look because of this thread.
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Re: Heroes -- "Cold Wars" -- Volume 4: Fugitives -- 2/23/09

Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Also, Parkman was a total fuck up this ep. He was trying to be all Badassgonnakickmesomeass because he thought Daphne was dead. He had no real plan and was out of his mind with grief. Sadly, neither Parkman nor the actor playing him, could pull it off. He just looked stupid.
it was pretty dumb. he had no idea what he was really doing. should have had a better plan.

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