The whole plane thing was just odd.

They didn't sit next to each other or anything like that. Kate and Jack spent the night together the night before, but then on the plane they were not really talking. Hurley who they are all friends with they were not talking to.

Lapidus sees all them and just keeps on flying the plane instead of just turning it around and saying F this.

Even just the whole taking a plane back to the island is just wierd.

And in the beginning when they are getting the info on the island, etc. They didn't ask any questions. If I was one of them I would have been asking a hell of a lot more questions. These characters are just stupid because they NEVER ask questions. And that frustrates me as a viewer because they just don't seem to be acting as a normal person would.

Actually, maybe they did. If, like Palaver theorized, flight 815 had people trying to get back to the island, then maybe that flight attendant was one of them. If I remember correctly, she seemed to fall in with the Others pretty quickly.

You're stretching here. It was obvious to me that she cannibalized little Aaron. That put him in her belly just like he was in Claire's belly when he came.

Please try to pay better attention to detail.

I don't know about anyone else, but how "normal" would you feel anymore after going through everything these characters have gone through so far in LOST and not to mention before that. For example. Hurley sees and gets advice from dead people he knows(not normal), not to mention he is lottery winning millionare. Kate is an ex-con who blew up her father. Sayid is a special forces interrogator for the Iraqi army. Can't say I know anyone like that in my life

Well in regards to Sun's kid I would say that is pretty obvious at least. Her kid is still with Sun's mother(grandma) back home. So she basically left her child and hopes that if Jin is still alive they can get back off the island and be a family again.

Yeah but something obviously happened with her that night. She left the church the night before seemingly upset but then the next day on the plane she seemed to be the happiest among them to be there.

Since the Island is apparently directly in the flight path from LA to Guam and no planes have disappeared, there must be something extra needed.

I would say she was upset in that perhaps all this time she believed Jin to be dead when he was not and the whole night itself was pretty intense. She did have a gun and was going to put one in Ben's head at more than one moment. But with time to reflect and cool off she is now giddy as a school girl at the thought that he is alive and she is going to get to see him again.

Just throwing another thought out there:

Hawking mentioned that the island always moves around, making it hard to find. What if Dharma had figured out a way to keep it from moving? What if the Swan Station was designed to keep the island from moving? The electro-magnetic energy is what fuels the moves. The Swan Station was releasing the energy in slow incremental amounts, preventing it from moving.

That would explain why Ben tried to trick Locke into not punching in the numbers. However, when Desmond did the fail safe, that messed up the island's "natural" ability to build up the energy and move. It took Ben turning the donkey wheel to get things "moving" again.

When Desmond forgot to put the numbers in, the island was getting ready to move while Ocean 815 was flying over, tearing the plane up.

And he was supposed to be the pilot for oceanic flight 815 but was replaced.

They apparently knew how to get there via submarine.

I didn't notice it mentioned, but if Jin's been with Dharma for a while in the 70s, couldn't it be possible that he taught Charlotte Korean?

So, it seems that when Locke turned the wheel, our friends on the island ended up in the early 70's for 3 years while Ben was working on getting the O6 back. We know Daniel and Jin have been working for Dharma, Daniel at the Orchid site, Jin as a Work Man. I'm sure we'll see Daniel try to warn a young Charlotte soon enough. Maybe we'll even see a young Miles.

When the plane was above the island there was a flash of light which caused our friends on the plane and on the ground to time travel to the present day. Everyone is now caught up and back together in the right time line, they just have to find each other. Jin was driving the Dharma van when the flash happened. I hope Daniel was not underground in a place that could kill him in the future.

I don't know if Kate will end up pregnant from Jack or not. She's had a lot of trouble getting pregnant before plus she had sex twice with Sawyer on the island and nothing happened. Juliet thinks the problem with women dying on the island starts with conception so that could be a problem for her.

The Aaron Situation is still a problem and must be resolved because he cannot be Raised By Another.

Eloise Hawking said that the island is not through with Desmond yet.

Here's the really interesting part. Let's say the pilot (Lapidus) also time travels to the island with our other friends in the flash. The plane maybe wouldn't have crashed but maybe now it does without its pilot. So, it crashes to the island in the early 70's shortly after Dharma has been set up there. Could this crash and electromagnetic anomaly be the incident that starts the whole button-pushing thing in the first place?

Yup, nice summary.

I think Ben killed Penny (interesting that this is one of the options in that Lost game someone set up) and Desmond needs to come back to the island to exact vengeance on Ben. Thus Hawking's statement that the island wasn't done with him yet.

I couldn't agree with this more. The whole time I was watching I was thinking about how forced the whole scene was. Obviously the writers are trying to hold some information back from us viewers but in doing so they destroyed that whole scene.

So after this episode, am I the only one who thinks Christian 'committed' suicide to get Jack on Oceanic Flight 815 and to the island, and Christian knew what would happen?

It's starting to look from that, and Abandon going to see Locke while he was in a wheelchair that each person on 815 was 'pushed' onto the flight and the island needed them there for some reason.

There's nothing special about "electro-magnetic energy". Sunlight is electromagnetic energy. Your lamp emits electromagnetic energy. Your local TV station transmits Lost to you via electromagnetic energy. If some energy source is responsible for the island's travels it had better be something more exotic than electromagnetic energy.

That's what I was thinking, maybe they are Dharma.

I'm a little confused on how long Jin, Sawyer, etc have been "stuck" in their final timeline. Some are saying it's the 3 years that the O6 have been off the island but wouldn't it be however long it was from when Locke donkey wheeled himself off and when most of the O6 returned in last night's ep? I can't remember if it's been established at what time Locke arrived at off the island.

So for example, say Locke arrived 2.5 years into the off island life of the O6, that would mean Jin, Daniel, etc, spent 6 months or so in the past presumably working for Dharma before the O6 showed back up. Does that sound right?

Isn't that kind of like saying there is nothing special about gravity? Just because my pen has gravity and a rock has gravity, doesn't mean it can't punch a hole in the fabric of space-time with a black hole.

The Dharma Orientation videos talk a good bit about the special electromagnetic properties of the island, and most specifically the Swan Station. Either its intensity or the form of it must be somewhat "exotic" to cause so much interest by Dharma.

I think the writers are using pseudo-science to partially explain some of the things happening. Electromagnetism is one of those things.

When Locke got the wheel back on its axis the rapid time traveling stopped. When he turned the wheel he went to Tunisia at some point in time (unknown) and our friends traveled one last time to the 70's where they stayed until the O6 came back. That's 3 years.

i like how since the start of this season it's all led up to this point of them getting on the plane, but it seemed so rushed and contrived. i'm sure we'll get answers on how Hurley and Sayid got there eventually. just felt way too rushed.

Ok. Im just trying to figure this all out in my head. So... the stuff we see with the Oceanic 6 is all taking place 3 years from when they left. They are now attempting to go back 3 years later. Weve pretty much seen what happened to them during those 3 years. But what I'm wondering is how will we see those 3 years on the island? Will it even actually be 3 years to them?

here's something i'm confused about, that i'm surprised to see no one has mentioned yet:

jack apparently didn't know until last night's episode that locke had killed himself. ben even said they don't write things like that in obituaries.

but didn't we already know that lock had killed himself from the obituary that jack was reading?

am i wrong?