Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Let me get this straight - Desmond sailed from the UK to Los Angeles? In what, two weeks? I really doubt Penny was anywhere near America during the time Desmond was there.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I don't remember why, but I remember thinking they had sailed there. There was something about the dialogue that indicated that, because I remember thinking how stupid it was.

And I really think this "the island is always moving" thing wasn't a good idea to introduce. Because it makes things unneccesarily complicated.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Penny mentioned that she was coming with Desmond.

I still don't believe they came there by boat, however!

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Absolutely I think they are probably together, but they didn't sail there.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

this show has become gripping tv again. i am riveted. i may not comprehend everything that is going on and not sure if i buy into all the science, but i am glued again and i love it.

tell me something...wasn't "LOST" shown in WS on the standard def. ABC channel since its' inception or at least the past few years? i taped it and maybe never realized, but it was in FS...

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

It could be done, theoretically.



However, I don't think it is the case here. And because I have a poor memory, maybe somebody could help me out. Didn't the O6 meet Ben for the first time together at the docks? Or am I confused?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I don't recall the SD feed ever being in WS.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Have you seen the HD version on abc.com. Pretty nice picture. That's how we usually watch it (day after - Weds. nights are busy for us.)

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

They never said what Desmond's timeline was did they? I think he could have stormed into Charles Widmore's office a few months before he got to LA.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Locke never turned the wheel. he popped it back on axis and then the time flashed

I thought it was mentioned he hung himself or was found hanged.

also i wonder about the woman with sayid on then plane, she looked especially nervous to me.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

So who's the stranger in first class... One of Widmore's men?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

is it just me or do i think that the guy who told jack "sorry bout ur frend" is gonna survive and become a character
same thing with frank

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Hence my question above yours.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Why would time have needed to progress for Jin, Sawyer, and Co.? They could have been there for hours or days for all we know. Just because the well wasn't established when we last saw them doesn't mean that Dharma wasn't already on the island.

Also, when Jack was putting Locke's shoes on his leg didn't appear to be broken any longer. I wonder, regardless of the break, if was paralyzed when he returned to real world.

Anybody recall that Pete said he was originally meant to be on the Oceanic flight instead of the other pilot?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

"bout ur frend"

You know this isn't a text message, please spell out full words.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

guess you didn't watch the preview for next episode?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

You mean Frank?

The other pilot was Parkman.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Was "Parkman" the pilot in question with the ring issue, or was that another one of the pilots?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

That's Greg Grunberg from Heroes. He played "Captain Seth Norris". I hope Frank has better luck than him upon crashing.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I prefer to think of him as Greg Grunberg from Felicity. I knew that's who we were speaking of. My question is whether the guy with the wrong ring situation in the cockpit was Grunberg's (short lived) LOST character or a different member of the flight crew. I don't think they were ever that specific, were they?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Bam, right here you nailed it.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

His character had the ring on when the plane crashed. The fake oceanic plane's dead pilot lacked the ring. It was supposed to be Grunberg's character though.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I think it was supposed to be him, yeah.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Many thanks for helping out with that point, guys.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I guarantee you no one thought about that.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Locke grabbed the wheel which got it back onto its axis then he pulled it toward himself. As the flash occurred, Christian said, 'say hello to my son,' to which he replied, 'who's your son?' And he was gone.

BTW, did anyone else think a polar bear was gonna come around that corner instead of Christian? I wonder if we'll ever see the bear work the wheel. :D

Why would Locke's leg still be broken after three years?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

BTW anyone find it odd that no one even bothered to ask Ben why it looks like he got the crap kicked out of him?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Why is it 3 years? I assume, possibly incorrectly, that Locke jumps to when Jack & Co. were - 3 years in the future.

Also, I noticed there was some C.S. Lewis talk, but it was spoilerized so I didn't click on it. My observation was (based on observations last week on names):

Charlotte = C.S. Lewis = Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe = Lampost = Dharma Church Station (Lampost)

Anyway, that was the first thing that came to my mind when she mentioned the name.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Yes. One of a number of "huh?" moments in this episode. I cannot believe Jack didn't say something like "what happened to you?" Of course, he also doesn't seem to care if Kate drowned his nephew in the river before hopping into his bed, so it looks like no one is thinking clearly these days.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I think they knew Ben wouldn't give them a satisfactory answer anyway.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Why would you say she did that?

My assumption was that somebody took him away or she gave him to his grandmother. Either way, Kate has been psycho over this whole Aaron issue feeling like he's hers.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Why not?

A friend of a friend of mine bought a 45' yacht in Alaska and sailed it home to New Zealand. It took him about six weeks.

These yachts can easily do 10 knots and, if you're sailing round the clock, that's about 250 nautical miles per day. I guesstimate that a trip from UK to LA (via Panama) would be about 5000 nautical miles so at 10 knots this would take about 3 weeks.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Because she was acting like whatever she did was horrible and seemed to be in a fragile state. I would be concerned enough in that situation to demand to know what she had done to my nephew, and not immediately jumped in the sack with her.

And I always start with worst-case scenario and work my way back, so I'd want to know for sure what she had done.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

We know that Ben landed 10 months ahead when he moved the island. That was probably timed to deal with Sayid. I'm guessing Locke will land whenever he is needed to land to do what needs to be done. Since he has to move around the world a bit from Tunisia to L.A. to New York, Etc... then he has to get his leg fixed and have some healing time. The island is not going to send him there 3 years ahead so he is rushing around on a broken leg. I'm wondering how he gets out of Tunisia without a passport or I.D. Maybe Ben comes there to help him. Hopefully the next episode starts with Locke landing in the desert.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Did I miss where it was shown that Locke landed in Tunisa?

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

That seems to be the dumping ground for island-donkey-wheel-turners.
We've seen it happen to Ben, and there was the polar bear skeleton with the Dharma logo found there...

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

Tunisia was the end point of the jump when the island was at its previous position. And I think it's safe to assume that the jump is to the antipodal point of the island location. So, depending on where the island is currently located, the current antipodal point of the island is probably not in Tunisia.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

What's Bespin's antipode?

I think the antipodal explanation worked just fine when it was simply "South Pacific -> Tunisia", but that's just what the internet used to justify it, right? That was never confirmed in the show.

I think that point in Tunisia is the exit as, if the island was previously constantly moving, you can't guarantee the antipode at that time isn't in the middle of the ocean or inside a mountain. That would end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?

In fact, for 2 different travelers (Polar Bear & Ben) to arrive at the same spot after different moves of the wheel, the destination would have to be constant because, by definition, the island's longitude/latitude wasn't.

Re: Lost -- "316" -- 2/18/09
 

I agree. I believe the off-island destination remains constant, and that whatever process is involved once the wheel is turned, it then spits you out in Tunisia.