Locke grabbed the wheel which got it back onto its axis then he pulled it toward himself. As the flash occurred, Christian said, 'say hello to my son,' to which he replied, 'who's your son?' And he was gone.

BTW, did anyone else think a polar bear was gonna come around that corner instead of Christian? I wonder if we'll ever see the bear work the wheel.

Why would Locke's leg still be broken after three years?

Jin's Dharma logo

BTW anyone find it odd that no one even bothered to ask Ben why it looks like he got the crap kicked out of him?

Why is it 3 years? I assume, possibly incorrectly, that Locke jumps to when Jack & Co. were - 3 years in the future.

Also, I noticed there was some C.S. Lewis talk, but it was spoilerized so I didn't click on it. My observation was (based on observations last week on names):

Charlotte = C.S. Lewis = Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe = Lampost = Dharma Church Station (Lampost)

Anyway, that was the first thing that came to my mind when she mentioned the name.

Yes. One of a number of "huh?" moments in this episode. I cannot believe Jack didn't say something like "what happened to you?" Of course, he also doesn't seem to care if Kate drowned his nephew in the river before hopping into his bed, so it looks like no one is thinking clearly these days.

I think they knew Ben wouldn't give them a satisfactory answer anyway.

Why would you say she did that?

My assumption was that somebody took him away or she gave him to his grandmother. Either way, Kate has been psycho over this whole Aaron issue feeling like he's hers.

Why not?

A friend of a friend of mine bought a 45' yacht in Alaska and sailed it home to New Zealand. It took him about six weeks.

These yachts can easily do 10 knots and, if you're sailing round the clock, that's about 250 nautical miles per day. I guesstimate that a trip from UK to LA (via Panama) would be about 5000 nautical miles so at 10 knots this would take about 3 weeks.

Because she was acting like whatever she did was horrible and seemed to be in a fragile state. I would be concerned enough in that situation to demand to know what she had done to my nephew, and not immediately jumped in the sack with her.

And I always start with worst-case scenario and work my way back, so I'd want to know for sure what she had done.

We know that Ben landed 10 months ahead when he moved the island. That was probably timed to deal with Sayid. I'm guessing Locke will land whenever he is needed to land to do what needs to be done. Since he has to move around the world a bit from Tunisia to L.A. to New York, Etc... then he has to get his leg fixed and have some healing time. The island is not going to send him there 3 years ahead so he is rushing around on a broken leg. I'm wondering how he gets out of Tunisia without a passport or I.D. Maybe Ben comes there to help him. Hopefully the next episode starts with Locke landing in the desert.

Did I miss where it was shown that Locke landed in Tunisa?

That seems to be the dumping ground for island-donkey-wheel-turners.
We've seen it happen to Ben, and there was the polar bear skeleton with the Dharma logo found there...

Tunisia was the end point of the jump when the island was at its previous position. And I think it's safe to assume that the jump is to the antipodal point of the island location. So, depending on where the island is currently located, the current antipodal point of the island is probably not in Tunisia.

What's Bespin's antipode?

I think the antipodal explanation worked just fine when it was simply "South Pacific -> Tunisia", but that's just what the internet used to justify it, right? That was never confirmed in the show.

I think that point in Tunisia is the exit as, if the island was previously constantly moving, you can't guarantee the antipode at that time isn't in the middle of the ocean or inside a mountain. That would end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?

In fact, for 2 different travelers (Polar Bear & Ben) to arrive at the same spot after different moves of the wheel, the destination would have to be constant because, by definition, the island's longitude/latitude wasn't.

I agree. I believe the off-island destination remains constant, and that whatever process is involved once the wheel is turned, it then spits you out in Tunisia.

According to Hawking, the island has always been moving yet Ben has been to Tunisia more than once and the bear made the trip. It's safe to say that Tunisia will always be the exit point. It makes sense because it's wide open desert and they're not likely to build anything out there to get in the way of the landing.

I assume the exit point for the island can change, just as the entry mechanism does.

Yes three weeks. I'm sure that with all that's going on, Desmond was quite content to spend three weeks sailing halfway across the world to deliver a 10 second message.

A few things I don't *think* I saw mentioned in the thread yet.

1) Ben said his mother taught him to read. His mother died in childbirth. Might have been a throwaway line, but struck me as weird.

2) John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

John's suicide note: "I wish you had believed me."

Locke as Jesus isn't new, but they are really pressing it now.

Of course, do we know when Desmond was on that boat in relation to "now." It could have been any time in the last 3 years.

Not any time as little Chuck is quite the toddler.

But it isn't clear exactly when he was at Widmore's getting the address in L.A.

That's been mentioned - I think it's a joke, that if Ben is talking...he's lying.

Whatever, he saw his mother in the woods chasing the bunny. Maybe she had some hooked on phonics stuff out there.

1) This was mentioned in the thread. I thought it was funny because I interpreted it as another Ben lie.

Sorry guys