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How so? Up until now, we've seen Locke in a coffin and been told that he was dead. Last night we saw how he died. Nothing has changed.

It would be a ruse if Ben had injected him with a "death faking" drug like they use in 24 or something similar. But Ben actually killed him.

Hence, no ruse.

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Yeah, I think there wasn't a ruse there.

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to me, the ruse was that we were led to believe it was suicide, when it was really murder.

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He died. No ruse.

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I agree. Especially since I didn't pick this one.

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Right. The death itself wasn't a ruse, though.

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Put me down for "no ruse."

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I was actually going to ask about this yesterday, but thought it was a dumb question...

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Fair enough, it's not a ruse. The wording of the question wasn't my intent, but we'll go by the wording of the question.

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$54
$234
$120

$408!!!!

Awesome.

Bus, you've added a whole new level of interest to this show for me. You are my hero, as well as a DVD Talk Hero.

Yeah, I wasn't going to count the ruse thing, either...and I bet on it. Drat. Looked like it was going to come true.

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I was right in my assessment of the ruse.

Looks like these are the ones I have left:

{013} The smoke monster appears. (7:1) $20
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) $10
{018} Benjamin Linus dies. (50:1) $19
{019} Rose and Bernard are shown. (8:1) $25

Until this week, I guess. $432 to spend...

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We need updated results.

I bet $50 on {020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname.** (10:1)
:D

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Oh and I just saw that I bet $10 on {015}. :p

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Yeah, but that only counts if Sawyer is in the episode!

As for the ruse I took that to mean Locke wouldn't stay dead. Meaning his death wasn't really a true death - e.g. a ruse. He was just mostly dead. ;)

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Thanks, awil, I was going to point out the obvious, too!

:p

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I guess I should have known better than to get sucked into a game on DVDTalk.

Grr.

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I need some things on which to predict!

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Yes, I was about to forget for this week!

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I'll have new predictions up shortly. I did ask people to send me suggestions via PM and I got a grand total of zero so far.

They'll be up soon.

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I sent you one last week.

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I must've missed it when I purged my inbox. :(

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Resent and added another.

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Alright... I have to say that keeping track of everyone's score is, at this point, going to be an impossibility. Since everything is being done publicly, there's no sense in me creating a database to track the scores. What I will do each week is keep a running tab of predictions that have already come true.

I'm going to see if I can find a workaround for this, but in the meantime, here's Week Three. With the extra week before Week Four (and the end of the season soon), I should be able to find a way.

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LOST Game — Week Three

You have $30 to spend between these predictions. You can bet on any number of predictions. Any unused money from this week is lost.

Predictions are in this format:

{Number} Prediction (Odds)

Previous, but active predictions (you cannot bet on these):


{021} A fake commercial / alternate-reality game is shown. (13:1)
{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1)
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)
{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1)
{026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1)
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1)
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1)
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)
{030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1)

*<img src="http://media.decider.com/assets/images/articles/article/22918/mitchell_l_jpg_300x1000_q85.jpg">

Off you go! Post your bets here by Wednesday, March 4th at 8:55PM EST.

Please make your bets in this format:

{00X} $AmountBet

OR

{00X} Description $AmountBet

Thanks!

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I'm going to try this format. Can someone check my math? I think this is right.

<s>Base money: $78 ($24 + $24 + $30)</s> Irrelevant going forward.

Paid predictions:


Active predictions:


Available funds: $286 ($292 - $6)

New predictions (letting the wife pick these this week):
$83 {024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)
$29 {026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1)
$20 {027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1)
$42 {029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)
$74 {030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1)

Total bet: $248
Total held: $38

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Paid Bets


Active Bets


Total Money to bet this week: (W + BMn) - A = (489 + 30) - 22 = $497

{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) - $297
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) - $200

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My bet. I'll have to cross check the previous weeks with my other bets. Won money can be banked week to week, correct? I didn't think anything I had voted on came to pass yet (plus I thought you were tracking) so I didn't look them up.

$10 {022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1)
$05 {023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$02 {026} All scenes in an episode are off the island. (17:1)
$05 {027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1)
$03 {029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1)
$05 {030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1)

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The problem is my spreadsheet can calculate total amount won, but it doesn't let you carry a balance. There should be a simple enough workaround, I just wasn't going to find it in time today.

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Sorry, Bus. I didn't see you ask for predictions, or I would have helped you. How were you keeping track before? Spreadsheet?

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Here are my results if anybody wants to double check, followed by a simple formula that we can use

Base Money = $78

Paid:
$16 {001} A foreign language is spoken. (2:1)
$48 {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)

balance = 142

minus active bets
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. (5:1) - $12
{016} It is shown what caused Ben's bruises/cuts before he got on the plane. (6:1) - $12

142 - 24 (active bets) = 118 available this week

--

This formula should work for everybody:

where BM = $78 (Base Money), W = Winnings, A = Active Bets:

Available money = (BM + W) - A

Pinata242 is correct: (78 + 292) - 6 = $364 available this week

outcastja should be: (78 + 489) - 22 = $545 available this week

Damfino (78 + 64) - 24 = $118 available this week.

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My Previous Bets:

Total: $224

{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) $29
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $70
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $100
{030} Sayid kills a "named" character (not a red-shirt or new-to-that-episode) character. (20:1) $25

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can you post the amounts you have?

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I knew this was going to be too complicated for me. Let's see..

I had $75 winnings from the first week.

$5 - {002} A gun or firearm is fired. (3:1)
$2 - {004} A dead character has a scene.* (9:1)
$7 - {007} John Locke is referred to by someone as Jeremy Bentham (or Jeremy or Mr. Bentham). (5:1)
$10 - {009} At least three of the Oceanic Six make it back to the island. (4:1)

Those were my bets, which ones were the one that paid? 009 and what else?

For the second week my bets were:
{011} A Dharma logo is never shown during the episode. $10
{014} Two or less major characters are shown before the "Lost" title sequence begins. $5
{015} John Locke's off-island "death" is shown to be a ruse. $10
{020} An entire episode passes without Sawyer calling someone by a nickname. $50

At least have $500 with the last one :D, I don't remember about the others... :(

So I basically don't have any idea on how to proceed now... :p

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Just follow the examples of tracking your winnings we all have posted. Any of them will work for you.

Bus has given you $78. Add your winnings to that. Subtract the amount you bet that haven't come true yet.

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active bets


{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $30
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $28
{028} No new characters (with speaking lines) are shown. We've seen every speaking character in this episode before. (7:1) $10
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $50

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$5 {021} A fake commercial / alternate-reality game is shown. (13:1)
$10 {023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1)
$15 {024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1)

How do we cash out?

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Active bets:


Spending $550, I have at least that much to bet with.

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $50
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $50
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $100
{025} All scenes in an episode are on the island. (3:1) $100
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face. (5:1) $100
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $150

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Paid predictions:


Active predictions:


Available funds: $511 ($526 - $15)

3/4/08 Predictions:

{022} Someone is shown underwater (camera/point-of-view is also underwater). (8:1) $50
{023} The word "accident" (or "accidentally") is used. (6:1) $5
{024} Someone gets knocked out. (4:1) $50
{027} Juliet makes her default wide-eyed perma-smirk face.* (5:1) $30
{029} Sayid is shown building/repairing/fixing something. (14:1) $20


Total bet: $155
Total held: $356

**Updated with correction.

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Ok... I worked out probably the ugliest looking spreadsheet any of you have ever seen in Google docs. I don't vouch for the accuracy, but it may give some of you a sense on how your doing and how much money you have to play with.


If you get a chance, look at your numbers and let me know if you see any errors. I'm not good at this stuff at all.

Alright... I tweaked it a bit..

Your score at this point should show how much money you have to play with this week before counting this week's seed money.

The way I figured the score was (total winnings - amount bet + total seed money for first 2 weeks).

Everybody got $48 as seed money, except for Bus, Kevinlord, kakihara1, and buzzdalf who only bet one week.

Does this make sense?


http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...8aPuDsaVfczHOA