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Damfino 05-18-09 12:31 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Confirmed:

19 Rose & Bernard appeared
44 Dr. Chang lost a limb
45 Flashback to Jin & Sun's wedding in Korea
55 Jacob's Cabin
68 Rose & Bernard appeared
72 A kayak and a lifeboat were used
74 Close up of an eye.
76 Black Rock appeared
85 Richard claims Jacob keeps him ageless
96 Jacob barefoot on the beach
106 Jacob's dead
116 Live Together, Die alone quote confirmed
118 Sawyer, Juliet & Kate "left" the island. They just didn't go very far before returning.
122 There were multiple flashbacks

Disputed?
101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108 and 115


I don't think it's as simple as assuming they all died because the H-bomb blew up. The special effect was the same as when the island flashes. I am in the camp that believes that the bomb didn't go off and the Losties all flashed to a different time. Therefore they are all still alive.

Anyway, perhaps what we need to do is declare two winners, one with everybody dying and one with them surviving.

Palaver 05-18-09 01:00 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I'm ok with not counting the disputed items since the end is really inconclusive. It could have ended either with a time jump or with the device going off. (I personally think it went off). If we had a shot of a mushroom cloud or something, it would be easier to call.

But I agree with Shibboleth regarding Locke. He didn't die in that episode. He died many episodes ago. The entity pretending to be Locke (as we knew it) didn't die.

But I'll go with the consensus on any of these

Damfino 05-18-09 01:07 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9451295)
But I agree with Shibboleth regarding Locke. He didn't die in that episode. He died many episodes ago. The entity pretending to be Locke (as we knew it) didn't die.

OK, I updated my previous post to move no. 105 to the disputed list.

Palaver 05-20-09 10:25 AM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I went ahead and updated my spreadsheet before this thread falls off into the abyss. I went with the confirmed list that Damfino put together. I also added {68} to the confirmed list since Rose and Bernard made an appearance.

If people want to further debate the disputed ones or if Bus wants to make a ruling on some of these, I can very easily make changes.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...8aPuDsaVfczHOA

Palaver 05-20-09 10:32 AM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Here's the rankings as I currently have them. There were lots of numbers to enter, so errors may abound. Of course, if any of the disputed ones change, the rankings will probably change drastically.

It should be apparent that I kept my thumbs off the scales when calculating these. ;)

outcastja Score 6306460
awil1026 Score 4254690
DarkestPhoenix Score 3004640
Jury Duty Score 394160
dvdhook Score 393618
pinata242 Score 245000
BlackCapten Score 219500
The Bus Score 197950
Jason Score 176860
IDrinkMolson Score 176106
Superman07 Score 162498
aktick Score 85700
datagirl7 Score 62003
Damfino Score 40292
Shibboleth Score 38475
Palaver Score 26400
Raul3 Score 19216
bradler Score 7796
Matthew Ackerly Score 576
BadlyDrawnBoy Score 259
Groucho Score 232
kakihara1 Score 115
kaze0 Score 105
buzzdalf Score 96
kevinlord190 Score 69

Damfino 05-20-09 12:38 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by Palaver (Post 9455658)
If people want to further debate the disputed ones or if Bus wants to make a ruling on some of these, I can very easily make changes.

Good catch on No. 68, I didn't notice that when I re-read all of the open ones.

I'd still like to see what the alternative counts would be if the disputed items all count.

At any rate, congratulations to outcastja for winning by such a large margin!

Palaver 05-20-09 12:48 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I'll throw together some numbers when I get a second and see how big of a difference it really makes with all the disputed ones counting.

Palaver 05-20-09 01:35 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Ok. I put together a separate spreadsheet with all of the disputed ones counting (101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108 and 115).

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...9SFMS5ll66oN9w

It looks like outcastja is still the winner, but by a smaller margin.

outcastja Score 9006460
DarkestPhoenix Score 8984640
awil1026 Score 7754690
Palaver Score 3826400
datagirl7 Score 2112003
The Bus Score 1995950
dvdhook Score 1759618
pinata242 Score 1090000
Superman07 Score 1042498
Jason Score 1016860
BlackCapten Score 979500
Shibboleth Score 888475
Jury Duty Score 835328
IDrinkMolson Score 751106
Damfino Score 440292
aktick Score 85700
Raul3 Score 19216
bradler Score 7796
Matthew Ackerly Score 576
BadlyDrawnBoy Score 259
Groucho Score 232
kakihara1 Score 115
kaze0 Score 105
buzzdalf Score 96
kevinlord190 Score 69

pinata242 05-20-09 01:37 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I like the first way better because #6 > # 8

Damfino 05-20-09 02:45 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
I actually moved down despite 10 X as much money.

But the main thing is that outcastja wins regardless, So the disputed items really don't matter.

DarkestPhoenix 05-21-09 05:11 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
How about we count these two as disputed? Or only 75? That way I can be on top. :lol: Never held that position, even for a week. Sucks.

{065} The island flashes again (not counting a previous scene where the island flashes). (7:1) $2,000
{075} The island moves again (doesn't count showing the previous movement). (7:1) $5,000

Wow, what a way to go out. Only 22K down. For all the massive amounts of money that flew around, especially at the end, that's a pretty slim margin.

Good job, outcastja!

Damfino 05-22-09 12:12 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 

Originally Posted by DarkestPhoenix (Post 9458770)
How about we count these two as disputed? Or only 75? That way I can be on top. :lol: Never held that position, even for a week. Sucks.

{065} The island flashes again (not counting a previous scene where the island flashes). (7:1) $2,000
{075} The island moves again (doesn't count showing the previous movement). (7:1) $5,000

Wow, what a way to go out. Only 22K down. For all the massive amounts of money that flew around, especially at the end, that's a pretty slim margin.

Good job, outcastja!

Well, I can see No. 65 as a disputed item if the island flashed instead of the bomb going off, but nothing suggested that the island moved, so you would only be a closer 2nd unless we do a third count that assumes that the bomb didn't go off, everybody lived and the island flashed... my brain hurts! I think it's time for me to just let it go.

Palaver 05-26-09 02:14 PM

Re: TV Talk's The LOST Game
 
Not that anybody probably cares at this point (except for maybe DarkestPhoenix), but it dawned on me yesterday for some reason that Bus had included this provision in the last set of predictions: "* {101}-{107} count double IF both people die and/or cease to exist."

Based on that, 101, 103, and 104 would count double (if we indeed went that route). That would actually give us a different set of results, as follows:

DarkestPhoenix Score 11864640
outcastja Score 11706460
awil1026 Score 11254690
Palaver Score 5626400
datagirl7 Score 3037003
The Bus Score 2545950
dvdhook Score 2137618
pinata242 Score 1795000
BlackCapten Score 1739500
Shibboleth Score 1738475
Superman07 Score 1422498
Jason Score 1366860
Jury Duty Score 835328
IDrinkMolson Score 751106
Damfino Score 440292
aktick Score 85700
Raul3 Score 19216
bradler Score 7796
Matthew Ackerly Score 576
BadlyDrawnBoy Score 259
Groucho Score 232
kakihara1 Score 115
kaze0 Score 105
buzzdalf Score 96
kevinlord190 Score 69

Sorry to muddy the waters.


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