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Old 10-29-08 | 01:00 AM
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It was bothering me... so I had to google it...

The phrase "Eris Quod Sum" is Latin and translates as "You will be what I am".
Old 10-29-08 | 01:27 AM
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Everything between Elle and Claire was completely ridiculous: the bad acting, the crap "electricity" effects, everything. But I sat through it all on the thin hope that they might kiss.
I was hoping they would be joined by What's-Her-Face and The-Ugly-One.
Old 10-29-08 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nth Power

I've been liking the Pa Petrelli stuff, but why didn't he recapture Peter instead of trying to kill him? Didn't he want him as a test subject for whatever Suresh was going to do to him?
I figure it's because he took Peter's powers. But more importantly, Pa said he was waiting for Sylar; so once Sylar showed up, it seems he didn't care about keeping Peter around.
Old 10-29-08 | 07:29 AM
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As a Senator, he probably has extra time to kill since he isn't campaigning for President.
The economy must be rock solid in their timeline.
Old 10-29-08 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Look, season one is held on a pedestal for a reason. Characters had lives, people died, there was suspense and tension and consequences to characters actions. It made for riveting television. Of those five things I just listed they are 0 for 5 this season.

Oh, and telling me I should bail, Thanks, but who are you? I'm not going anywhere, I've really enjoyed the past few episodes, my point is that when you see Parkman hit the floor from a death blow, you know right away he doesn't die. There is no emotional attachment or even suspense when the writers do that. Sylar sends powerless Peter flying out a seven story window? You know he's going to walk away.
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So far the body count this year is Parkman's dad, Jessie, Vortex Man, Adam and some random chick to feed Sylar. All characters with 1-2 episodes of screen time, if that. Adam was a decent blow, but they seriously need to raise the stakes.
I have been enjoying season 3 much more than 2, but I agree with nearly everything you said here.
Old 10-29-08 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Everything between Elle and Claire was completely ridiculous: the bad acting, the crap "electricity" effects, everything.
Yeah. I think I might've even laughed out loud when Elle was really pouring it on right before getting the mop bucket dumped on her.
Old 10-29-08 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kiddk1
Next to heroes JM was the best show on TV at the time, I honestly beleive the time slot killed it and I thought that NBC did not show all the episodes shot.
Not to go OT, but you are incorrect. All 13 ordered episodes were aired. NBC put it in a tough slot and failed to properly promote the show. With the rating-dropping Heroes as its lead-in, it really didn't stand a chance. The existing 13 episodes do somewhat end up being self-contained enough to serve the series as a beginning, middle and end so at least it resolved well.
Old 10-29-08 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
Ah, cool... I haven't had time to rewatch seasons 1 and 2, but I was curious about one thing:

in season 1, wasn't ma patrelli very against the corporation, even going so far as to use the Haitian to keep Claire safe, etc.? Did they ever explain this?
No explanation but my personal theory is every time an "original hero" takes over, they put in their own rules and agendas. Plus, the writers are always giving us this Frank Herbert/DUNE "Plans within plans" shit so who knows where anyone's real agendas and loyalties are?


Also, the minute Parkman Jr. said that it was an ability his dad had, I thought for sure they gave themselves an out to have Parkman Sr. still be alive. They were even killed in much the same way, both times with me screaming at the TV "why the heck are you standing so close to a guy that can kill you???"

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean. Parkman's mental powers have been growing since dealing with his dad last season(?) So this is nothing new. I forget who told him that he could do more than just read minds.



What was the point of using Linderman to talk to the speedster if they were going to reveal Pa Patrelli as the mastermind anyway? Besides to fool the audience, of course. And if Daddy Parkman is really dead, then is that whole "Linderman influences Nathan" thing over?
I can't remember but didn't Linderman sort of gain Nathan's trust before he died? Nathan has such a hard on for Political Office and crazy super powered blonde tookie, all it takes is some half ass promises and he's ready to go with anything you throw at him. So why not use Linderman to jerk his emotions and mind around?

As far as Linderman, Parkmans Sr., and Nathan... since Nathan now knows about Pa being alive and since it seems he's headed for him, there's probably not going to be anymore Linderman/Nathan mind screwing. But it is Heroes so anything is possible....
Old 10-29-08 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RKillgore
I was hoping they would be joined by What's-Her-Face and The-Ugly-One.

Just so you don't think that went completely over everyone's head, I got it.
Old 10-29-08 | 09:00 AM
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Explain it to me. I laughed but I really didn't understand it.
Old 10-29-08 | 09:15 AM
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Explain it to me. I laughed but I really didn't understand it.
http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs1.html

or

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/539zCn8ySbc&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/539zCn8ySbc&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
Old 10-29-08 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Can someone please remind me when Claire met Niki? I can't remember why she'd recognize Tracy.
Kirby Plaza in how to stop an exploding man

Originally Posted by rfduncan
Not to go OT, but you are incorrect. All 13 ordered episodes were aired. NBC put it in a tough slot and failed to properly promote the show. With the rating-dropping Heroes as its lead-in, it really didn't stand a chance. The existing 13 episodes do somewhat end up being self-contained enough to serve the series as a beginning, middle and end so at least it resolved well.
you are correct I did see the finale perfidia. thanks
Old 10-29-08 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean. Parkman's mental powers have been growing since dealing with his dad last season(?) So this is nothing new. I forget who told him that he could do more than just read minds.
I know Parkman can do more than just read minds, much like his father can. I just found it odd that he mentioned that it's the exact same thing that his father can do, when he was talking about faking his own death, and that they both "died" in similar ways, by foolishly talking smack in arms reach of a guy who could kill them.
Old 10-29-08 | 10:58 AM
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Claire's mom again with the unnecessary flaming palm. Everybody take a drink...
Old 10-29-08 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by celmendo
Claire's mom again with the unnecessary flaming palm. Everybody take a drink...
Oh come on! If you had that power, wouldn't you do it every chance you got?

It would be great at concerts during the power ballads.
Old 10-29-08 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Oh come on! If you had that power, wouldn't you do it every chance you got?

It would be great at concerts during the power ballads.
Damn right. Everything I ate would be flame broiled. No more shaving. Better not fart around me. The fun never stops.
Old 10-29-08 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by celmendo
Claire's mom again with the unnecessary flaming palm. Everybody take a drink...
I was under the impression that she was going to destroy the lab (and evidence) hence the fire palm.
Old 10-29-08 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig
I know Parkman can do more than just read minds, much like his father can. I just found it odd that he mentioned that it's the exact same thing that his father can do, when he was talking about faking his own death, and that they both "died" in similar ways, by foolishly talking smack in arms reach of a guy who could kill them.
Oh ok.

But remember that after the guy left, it was shown that he was in another room with "Speedy love". He was never within arm's reach of him. Also, he learned how to escape his Father's powers so that's probably why he used the same mind trick on 'fear makes me strong' brothah because it's effective.
Old 10-29-08 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Oh come on! If you had that power, wouldn't you do it every chance you got?

It would be great at concerts during the power ballads.
If felt the same way as the other guy until I read your post.

Hell yeah I'd be fuckin' Torchin' up every chance I could get now that I think about it.

Either way, I'm kinda hopin' she makes some kind of play for Nathan....

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Old 10-29-08 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowmaker
http://www.homestarrunner.com/tgs1.html

or

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Wow. Some things are better left unexplained.
Old 10-29-08 | 12:59 PM
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Wow. Some things are better left unexplained.
Well, you first have to be familiar with Strong Bad Emails. You cannot just jump right into Teen Girl Squad.

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Oh come on! If you had that power, wouldn't you do it every chance you got?
I'd thrust my pelvis out and flame on there asking everyone, "Who am I?"
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A buddy of mine said that he's planning a trogdor level...

edit: Whoa - that was way out of context. I must've thought this was a LittleBigPlanet thread or something. My Apologies.

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Old 10-29-08 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
Oh ok.

But remember that after the guy left, it was shown that he was in another room with "Speedy love". He was never within arm's reach of him. Also, he learned how to escape his Father's powers so that's probably why he used the same mind trick on 'fear makes me strong' brothah because it's effective.
Yeah, I realize it was revealed that he wasn't really there... really, when you saw him die, anyone who's been following this show would know what really happened (since nobody really dies). I thought he'd get knocked out or something, so I originally thought it was really stupid of him to walk towards the super strong guy.
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With 'speed girl' I don't get why she'd really be afraid of any physical threats. When Pa Petrelli and black boogeyman begin to menace her, she could be out of there in a blink.

Are they still clinging to the canon of the most recent future? Doesn't everyone from Parkman to Peter to Hiro know about it and are changing it with every action?


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