I think the cat is a cylon. Kind of like the six in baltar's head. I think there is another group of cylons that don't have physical bodies. Head six, head balter, and now head cat are examples of these cylons.

Who's "Vito"? Is he the last cylon.

I don't understand the huge disappointment with this show. I just got caught up to it at the start of this season and see everything that is happening as a logical progression. There is a TON of more complex internal struggles not that the lines are not so black and white - granted that means the physical battles have turned into emotional ones, but I find that shift just as intriguing as when they were having shoot outs every week...

Vito => Veto.

I think I'm in the same boat, I essentially caught up just a few weeks ago - while this season is certainly slower, I haven't really felt nearly as impatient as some of the others here.

As someone who has little interest in shows *unless* they're season-long arcs--I could care less about standalone *anythings*--and who has always seen space battles as a trivial part of a good scifi show, I find season four as compelling as ever. It seems like the same show it's always been, and more tightly plotted than ever. Seems to me all that's changed is the DVD Talk perception of what shows are cool or not, with opinion usually being driven by a certain vocal space monkey.

Edit: I say I have no interest in standalone eps of any show, and then turn around and dive into the Doctor Who thread. Typical.

Yeah I don't understand how the same people that were calling it the best show on TV now say they hate it. We're gonna miss show BSG and Lost when they're done. There's barely any sci-fi/fantasy shows left try to enjoy them while they're still here.

P.S. - Sine Qua Non was probably the weakest of the season for me because I was really expected to see what was going on with the baseship.

No, and yes.

what is so hard to grasp? 3... 4... 5 shitty lackluster episodes in a row tend to make people change their minds.

I'm hoping the writers strike really fucked with the intended arc of this season, and they will pull it all together for their swansong. I hope.

And to boost ratings, it turns out the final cylon is...

come the end of the season everyone will be saying how these boring episodes were the best and how they set the story up for later episodes

The thing that really annoyed me about this episode was Romo Lampkin.

When he first appeared, he was this master-manipulator legal eagle who got Baltar off. He was a level-headed strategist who was able to put his opponents off their guard. He possessed a keen intellect and deep and profound knowledge of the law.

In "Sine Qua Non" he was a crazy guy who carried a dead cat around in a sack for two months.

So say we all!

I always think next week looks good based on the previews they show us, but then the writers/producers fake us out... In a previous episode, Tigh shoots Adama in the CIC. Cool! Is it because his cylon programming kicked in and now he's going to start killing? Nope, it turns out to be just a dream. Or how about in this episode when an enraged Tigh attacks Adama. Great! Is it because someone flipped a switch and now he's on a rampage? Nope, this time it's just an argument and the two of them make peace minutes later. For frak's sake.

Have to agree - these previews and their respective episodes give me a strong Sopranos S5/S6 vibe. You keep wanting it to get back to how good it was, the previews keep teasing you....and then another let down.

Where are you coming up with this "flip a switch" concept? Did it ever occur to you that the "master plan" with the final five was always to drop them into society to act as a buffer to meld the two races? So far, there doesn't seem to be any indication that the final five have the resurrection ability (there are no "versions" of them on the resurrection ships like the "boxed" number 3 had). And they are too far from one to do so. That Tigh was mistreated so badly on Caprica by his OWN RACE seems to show that the capacity for acceptance is all superficial. They were unwittingly mutilating one of their own (just as he unknowingly led the resistance against HIS own race)... perhaps the lesson to come is that tolerance should be the rule and not the exception.

You might be right. On the other hand... Boomer was a sleeper agent who was a nice pilot in the colonial fleet, then one day she just decided to blow up the Galatica's water tanks, and on another day she decided to shoot Adama. Just like that. And like Tyrol said in the Season 3 finale (or one of the other 3 skin jobs revealed in that episode), it's like someone flipped a switch and that's it: now they're aware they're cylons. You might be right about Tigh, Tyrol, Anders and Tori being buffers, but watching Boomer wreak havoc was a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching Tigh make nice with Adama. Isn't that why the producers keep teasing the viewers with scenes of Tigh appearing to go ape shit (like shooting/attacking Adama)?

Agree completely with the both of you.




-Doc

I've been catching up (left off on episode before mutiny ep), but I'm also confused that so many people on this board are hating on the series. I'll agree that there have been some slow parts, but there really is a lot unfolding once you say look back over an episode or two.

1) Six Pregnant
2) Other Six Dead/Athena in jail
3) Baltar and the president in league
4) Adama resigns
5) Lee becomes president
6) Base-star jumps
7) B*tchy presidential aid/cylon gets called out. Nice!
8) The opera house is back
9) Bill and Saul have it out

How is that not a lot for one hour? I agree that the Lee as president is somewhat weak, but makes sense to a degree.

Yes, I know I have two more eps until I'm caught up so these comments may be somewhat out of date.

Also, other boards seem(ed) to be gushing over a lot of these episodes, whereas this board is just saying it is (was) just plain bad. <shrug>

I seem to let this show go for a while not knowing why I watch it/no anticipation (ala Lost), but then when I do it gets on a roll and it reminds why it's good.

It's also one of those shows that benefits greatly from being able to plow through them in one or two sittings. I envy your restraint. If we hadn't been in the duldrums of the television landscape at the time these were airing, (and if I had any will power or self-control whatsoever) I'd have done the same thing you did.


-Doc

By the way, I hadn't seen your previous post Doc, so good to see that you're in agreement.

I'll probably finish up the last two tonight, but then be kicking myself since I hear it's another doozey cliffhanger.

Right on, man. Enjoy them! I enjoyed the midseason finale a great deal, and it'll keep your mindgrapes working for a while (a long while, since we have to wait until '09 to see where this sucker's going.


-Doc

Is 2009 official? Is there a source?

You can probably find this in several places, but pretty certain it is February 2009.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33862