That may be the lowest viewership in millions for Heroes. It's ratings have never recovered after it went on hiatus last March. They have lost almost 4 million 'live' viewers since then.

This should be a good lesson for shows like Heroes, Jericho and Lost that they cannot interupt the storyline because they don't have enough episodes to fill the season. 24 got it right a couple of years ago with their January to May uninterrupted viewing.

Chris

It also doesn't help that it follows Chuck, a show getting only 7-8m viewers where as last year, IIRC, Deal or No Deal was getting around 13m.

It doesn't help that it is an incredibly boring season so far.

What is it about most shows and their sophmore seasons? Lost was the same way and even though I didn't watch 24 until the third season, I think I remember people here saying that the 2nd season of 24 was pretty weak also.

Hopefully Jericho doesn't follow that pattern. And speaking of Jericho, I guess CBS is holding it back until next year (winter-spring 2008) as planned.

Chris

Well, The LA Times got their 's' together and posted a full recap.




Chris

Actually the 2nd season of 24 was pretty damn solid. At least until 2/3 of the way through.

What's happened to GA? It used to be first or second depending on how CSI did but now even without the ALCS, it's down to fourth place...

I wonder how baseball is going to affect the ratings tonight. Especially for Bionic Woman and Life who have dropped alot since the premiere.

I think it lost some of it's audience due to Private Practice.

This may be a simplified way of looking at it, but maybe ABC is happy with Grey's Anatomy (18M) & Private Practice (12M) which at 30M is more than the 21M that Grey's Anatomy alone was pulling in. Who knows?

Chris

I'm sure Fox is glad that Boston is in there instead of Cleveland. So the ratings are probably going to be pretty high.

Chris

Personally, I've been finding myself forgetting about "Grey's Anatomy." It could just be my crazy college schedule this year, but I've missed it twice and don't really feel any need to try and catch up. Lately Christina and Izzy are the only characters that I care about and I'm tired of seeing everyone so stressed out and cranky! I miss the hijinx and peril for seasons 1 and 2.

As for "Private Practice" I love that show. I don't know why, but the mixture of the characters and the quirky elements has me coming back week after weekend excited for the series. I also watch "Gossip Girl" so living in the dorms I've set up what my friends and I joking refer to as "an old school tivo" since I have a spliter set up with a vcr on one line and my dvdr on the other. So we can watch Daisies, PP, Dirty Sexy Money live, and then GG (wihtout commericals) at 11pm.

Tuesday – 10/23
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “House” (FOX) 17.87m
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 17.82m
3. “NCIS” (CBS) 17.09m
4. “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC) 12.17m
5. “20/20 Special” (ABC) 10.92m
6. “The Unit” (CBS) 10.86m
7. “Bones” (FOX) 8.82m
8. “Cane” (CBS) 7.98m
9. “The Biggest Loser” (8:30-10) (NBC) 7.17m
10. “Carpoolers” (ABC) 7.13m
11. “The Singing Bee” (NBC) 6.82m
12. “Cavemen” (ABC) 6.55m
13. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 3.20m
14. “Reaper” (CW) 2.57m

8:00-9:00
1. “NCIS” (CBS) 17.09m
2. “Bones” (FOX) 8.82m
3. “The Singing Bee” / “The Biggest Loser” (NBC) ?.??m
4. “Cavemen” / “Carpoolers” (ABC) 6.84m
5. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 3.20m

9:00-10:00
1. “House” (FOX) 17.87m
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 17.82m
3. “The Unit” (CBS) 10.86m
4. “The Biggest Loser” (NBC) ?.??m
5. “Reaper” (CW) 2.57m

10:00-11:00
1. “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC) 12.17m
2. “20/20 Special” (ABC) 10.92m
3. “Cane” (CBS) 7.98m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “House” (FOX) 7.6/18
2. “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC) 4.7/13
3. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 4.4/11
4. “NCIS” (CBS) 3.7/10
5. “Bones” (FOX) 3.1/9
6. “The Biggest Loser” (8:30-10) (NBC) 3.1/8
7. “The Unit” (CBS) 3.0/7
8. “20/20 Special” (ABC) 2.8/8
9. “Carpoolers” (ABC) 2.4/6
10. “The Singing Bee” (NBC) 2.3/7
11. “Cavemen” (ABC) 2.2/6
12. “Cane” (CBS) 2.0/5
13. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 1.6/4
14. “Reaper” (CW) 1.2/3

CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK:
1. “10-11 HOUR” (ABC) +6.85%*
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) +4.64%
3. “The Biggest Loser” (NBC) +3.91%
4. “Carpoolers” (ABC) +2.44%
5. “NCIS” (CBS) -1.78%
6. “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC) -2.95%
7. “Cavemen” (ABC) -5.35%
8. “Cane” (CBS) -6.12%
9. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) -9.86%
10. “The Unit” (CBS) -11.49%
11. “Reaper” (CW) -20.92% *ouch*

* Change between “20/20” this week and “Boston Legal” last week.

Thought we'd lost you, The Movieman.

Chris

That should read ABC

Chris

lol. Fixed


FINAL NATIONALS
Monday, 10/22
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 21.37m
2. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.66m
3. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 13.94m
4. “Samantha Who?” (ABC) 13.68m
5. “Rules of Engagement” (CBS) 10.82m
6. “Heroes” (NBC) 10.81m
7. “The Bachelor” (ABC) 8.92m
8. “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) 8.81m
9. “How I Met Your Mother” (CBS) 8.50m
10. “Prison Break” (FOX) 7.44m
11. “Chuck” (NBC) 7.22m
12. “Journeyman” (NBC) 6.06m
13. “K-Ville” (FOX) 6.04m
14. “The Game” (CW) 2.61m
15. “Everybody Hates Chris” (CW) 2.52m
16. “Aliens in America” (CW) 2.36m
17. “Girlfriends” (CW) 2.21m

Source: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=212039

I've updated the season numbers for various shows (upo through Wednesday, Thurs/Fri shows will be updated on Saturday):
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=261

Interesting to see how much "Bionic Woman" has fallen...

CRIMINAL MINDS (WED. 9PM, CBS)
09/26/07 | 12.71 | 3.5/9
10/03/07 | 14.42 | 3.7/9
10/10/07 | 14.47 | 3.8/10
10/17/07 | 14.87 | 3.9/10
10/24/07 | 14.93 | 3.9/9

Getting rid of Mandy Pantikin was the best thing that CBS ever did for this show. I don't watch it though.

Chris

I try to watch CM every week and while Pantikin was great on the show, I'm interested to see how Joe Montagna does next week.

Oh, Joe Montagna has not even joined the show yet? That's an even bigger slap in the face to Pantikin considering that there are no other real stars on the show right now.

Chris

Not really. If you looked at last year's numbers for the show, I think you would see the premiere was the abnormal week, not the ones that have followed.

Criminal Minds has climbed dramatically since the season premiere. Very happy to see it doing so well. I'm looking forward to seeing Mantegna next week. Obviously it's a procedural and every episode is self contained, which makes it pretty easy to gain new viewers.

Although, at first I thought the show wouldn’t be as good without Mandy, after watching last weeks episode (missed the episode the week before) “Children of the Dark”, I don’t think him leaving affected the show at all.

Still need to see this week’s episode that I recorded, the last episode with Gibson as the lead of the show.

Thursday – 10/25
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 17.95m
2. “World Series Game 2” (FOX) 15.64m
3. “CSI” (R) (CBS) 14.76m
4. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 14.16m
5. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 12.75m
6. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 9.84m
7. “ER” (NBC) 9.12m
8. “The Office” (NBC) 8.98m
9. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 8.23m
10. “Big Shots” (ABC) 8.08m
11. “Scrubs” (Season Premiere) (NBC) 7.03m
12. “30 Rock” (NBC) 6.53m
13. “Smallville” (CW) 4.50m
14. “Supernatural” (CW) 3.27m

8:00-9:00
1. “World Series Game 2” (FOX) ??.??m
2. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 14.16m
3. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 9.84m
4. “My Name is Earl” / “30 Rock” (NBC) 7.38m
5. “Smallville” (CW) 4.50m

9:00-10:00
1. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 17.95m
2. “CSI” (R) (CBS) 14.76m
3. “World Series Game 2” (FOX) ??.??m
4. “The Office” / “Scrubs” (NBC) 8.01m
5. “Supernatural” (CW) 3.27m

10:00-11:00
1. “World Series Game 2” (FOX) ??.??m
2. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 12.75m
3. “ER” (NBC) 9.12m
4. “Big Shots” (ABC) 8.08m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 7.3/15
2. “World Series Game 2” (FOX) 4.8/14
3. “The Office” (NBC) 4.7/7
4. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 4.4/12
5. “CSI” (R) (CBS) 3.8/12
6. “Scrubs” (Season Premiere) (NBC) 3.8/6
7. “ER” (NBC) 3.7/8
8. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 3.6/7
9. “Without a Trace” (CBS) 3.3/12
10. “Big Shots” (ABC) 3.3/7
11. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 3.2/9
12. “30 Rock” (NBC) 3.1/5
13. “Smallville” (CW) 1.8/4
14. “Supernatural” (CW) 1.3/3

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CHANGES FROM LAST WEEK (Exc. CSI Rerun):
1. “CBS 10-11 HOUR” (CBS) +44.39%*
2. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) +13.36%
3. “Supernatural” (CW) +6.86%
4. “The Office” +5.65%**
5. “30 Rock” (NBC) +4.15%
6. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) +1.76%
7. “Survivor: China” (CBS) +1.72%
8. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) +1.07%
9. “Big Shots” (ABC) -3.12%
10. “ER” (NBC) -8.89%
11. “Smallville” (CW) -11.07%

* Change from last week’s “Viva Laughlin” premiere and this week’s regular “Without a Trace”.

** Last week was a 1-hour episode vs. 30-min this week. Change of -5.77% overall for the 9-10 hour from last week.

Movieman:
Any numbers from Wednesday?