Whoah!! Viva Laughlin lost over 35% of Without a Trace's audience and almost 12M viewers from it's lead in (CSI). Can you say DOA?

So at what point are those numbers taken, or is it maybe an average of multiple numbers taken throughout the show? In other words, did Viva Laughlin lose those viewers before the show even started, or does it not count people who changed the channel after 15 minutes?

how were the ratings last year for earl?
this prison storyline isnt all that intrigueing

The ratings for episode four of last season weren't posted in the old thread, but for week five, Earl had 8.70m viewers.

I'm not sure if it's 15 or 30 minute right now, but the way it has been in the past is every 30 minutes. They check at the beginning of the show, and again at the 30 minute mark, ensuring each viewer had it on the channel for at least xx number of minutes, and then again at the end of the show. Most of the report you'll read will make comments like "Lost/Gained xx viewers at xx:30".

thanks for feeding my lazy tendencies
so.. the numbers arent drastically different than last year.. i guess its just trucking along, despite odd angle
although.. the michael rappaport appearance may have helped

According to my data (final figures w/e):

9-24-06 : 8.38
10-1-06 : 8.12
10-8-06 : 9.89
10-15-06: 9.84
10-22-06: 8.56 (week 5).

And viewership between 1/07/07 & 2/25/07 was between 8.71 & 10.68 million per episode. After that it never went over 8 million.

And so far this year

8.66
7.98
7.76
7.26 (preliminary)

So, viewership is down by more than 2 million from it's peak last season. It looks like people are getting pretty tired of Earl. I thought the first season was really good, but then it kind of got repetitive. I still watch it and it's had some good parts this year, but it's no longer the highest viewership for NBC's Thursday night comedies (The Office).

I'm not sure where all the viewers went because the other programs at that time seem to be tracking around the same.

Chris

Those numbers for Supernatural are pathetic. Without checking last year numbers, I say that they are down from last year.

Actually, looking at the last 4 weeks or so of last season they were averaging the upper 2 millions to lower 3 millions and this year they seem to be doing the same. They average about 2 million less than Smallville.

Chris

I just got this e-mail regarding them only printing the partial weekly listings.

It's good to know that my bitching is being heard. But that still doesn't explain why these figures are no longer on their website. There are no space limitations on there!

Chris

I don’t know what’s with all the hate for Earl as of late but I’m enjoy the third season thus far just as much as the previous two and I think it’s awesome that the writers are willing to take the show in a completely different direction. I mean, do you really wan’t to have the formulaic ‘Earl Cross’s 1 item a week of his list’ every episode again? If you want repetition, watch CSI: Miami.

It is sad that 30 Rock loses a million viewers from Earl. As much as I like Earl, 30 Rock is the far superior comedy. I don’t watch The Office but I wonder if Scrubs is going to get some of it’s viewers next week, or will The Office still get around 8 million & Scrubs will see around 5 million again. A 3 million drop-off will be huge.

I wonder what’s up with the ratings boost for ER? It was an alright episode but considering how poor it did last week; what’s with the jump up. Probably the Without a Trace viewers had nothing to watch after they couldn’t stand watching Viva Laughlin.

FINAL NATIONALS
Sunday, 10/14
1. “NFL Overrun” (7-7:43) (CBS) 29.12m
2. “Desperate Housewives” (ABC) 18.89m
3. “60 Minutes” (7:43-9:22) (CBS) 17.23m
4. “Cold Case” (CBS) 13.88m
5. “Brothers & Sisters” (ABC) 12.51m
6. “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” (ABC) 12.23m
7. “Shark” (CBS) 11.06m
8. “The Simpsons” (8-8:30) (FOX) 8.70m
9. “America’s Funniest Home Videos” (ABC) 7.72m
10. “King of the Kill” (8:30-9) (FOX) 7.53m
11. “Family Guy” (R) (FOX) 7.09m
12. “American Dad” (FOX) 6.20m
13. “The Simpsons” (R) (7:30-8) (FOX 4.84m
14. “King of the Hill” (R) (7-7:30) (FOX) 2.40m
15. “America’s Next Top Model” (R) (CW) 1.70m
16. “Life is Wild” (CW) 1.06m
17. “CW Now” (CW) 0.67m
18. “Online Nation” (CW) 0.58m

Monday, 10/15
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 19.40m
2. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.59m
3. “Samantha Who?” (Series Debut) (ABC) 14.42m
4. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 13.69m
5. “Heroes” (NBC) 11.41m
6. “Rules of Engagement” (CBS) 10.81m
7. “MLB ALCS Game 3” (8-10:38ET) (FOX) 9.91m
8. “The Bachelor” (ABC) 8.93m
9. “Chuck” (NBC) 8.36m
10. “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) 7.94m
11. “How I Met Your Mother” (CBS) 7.71m
12. “Journeyman” (NBC) 6.75m
13. “The Game” (CW) 2.68m
14. “Everybody Hates Chris” (CW) 2.61m
15. “Girlfriends” (CW) 2.43m
16. “Aliens in America” (CW) 2.25m

Tuesday, 10/16
1. “NCIS” (CBS) 17.55m
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 17.30m
3. “Law & Order: SVU” (NBC) 12.51m
4. “MLB ALCS Game 4” (8:17-11:34ET) (FOX) 12.37m
5. “The Unit” (CBS) 12.35m
6. “Boston Legal” (ABC) 9.78m
7. “Cane” (CBS) 8.54m
8. “MLB ALCS Game 4 Pre-Game” (8-8:17ET) (FOX) 7.17m
9. “Carpoolers” (ABC) 6.99m
10. “The Biggest Loser” (NBC) 6.95m
11. “Cavemen” (ABC) 6.91m
12. “Dateline Special: Matt Lauer Presents” (NBC) 5.73m
13. “Beauty and the Geek” (CW) 3.60m
14. “Reaper” (CW) 3.27m

Wednesday, 10/17
1. “Criminal Minds” (CBS) 15.03m
2. “CSI: NY” (CBS) 13.99m
3. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 12.41m
4. “Private Practice” (ABC) 11.78m
5. “Pushing Daisies” (ABC) 9.87m
6. “Dirty Sexy Money” (ABC) 8.67m
7. “Bionic Woman” (NBC) 8.62m
8. “Life” (NBC) 7.64m
9. “Kid Nation” (CBS) 7.35m
10. “Back to You” (FOX) 7.06m
11. “Til Death” (FOX) 7.01m
12. “Kitchen Nightmares” (FOX) 6.87m
13. “America’s Next Top Model” (CW) 4.94m
14. “Gossip Girl” (CW) 2.41m

Thursday, 10/18
1. “CSI” (CBS) 21.22m
2. “Grey’s Anatomy” (ABC) 18.04m
3. “Survivor: China” (CBS) 14.03m
4. “MLB ACLS Game 5” (8:19-11:56ET) (FOX) 13.10m
5. “ER” (NBC) 10.12m
6. “Ugly Betty” (ABC) 9.84m
7. “The Office” (NBC) 8.61m
8. “Viva Laughlin” (Series Debut) (CBS) 8.39m
9. “Big Shots” (ABC) 7.64m
10. “My Name is Earl” (NBC) 7.25m
11. “ALCS Game 5 Pre-Game” (8-8:19) (FOX) 6.55m
12. “30 Rock” (NBC) 6.22m
13. “Smallville” (CW) 5.18m
14. “Supernatural” (CW) 3.03m

Source: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...splay.php?f=27

-- FAST NATIONALS --
Friday – 10/19
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Numb3rs” (CBS) 9.72m
2. “Women’s Murder Club” (ABC) 9.67m
3. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 9.32m
4. “Ghost Whisperer” (CBS) 8.92m
5. “Moonlight” (CBS) 7.78m
6. “Las Vegas” (NBC) 7.51m
7. “20/20” (ABC) 6.75m
8. “Men in Trees” (ABC) 6.42m
9. “Friday Night Lights” (NBC) 5.48m
10. “Friday Night Smackdown” (CW) 4.66m
11. “The Next Great American Band” (Series Premiere) (8-10) (FOX) 3.57m

8:00-9:00
1. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 9.32m
2. “Ghost Whisperer” (CBS) 8.92m
3. “20/20” (ABC) 6.75m
4. “Friday Night Smackdown” (CW) 4.17m

9:00-10:00
1. “Women’s Murder Club” (ABC) 9.67m
2. “Moonlight” (CBS) 7.78m
3. “Friday Night Lights” (NBC) 5.48m
4. “Friday Night Smackdown” (CW) 5.15m

10:00-11:00
1. “Numb3rs” (CBS) 9.72m
2. “Las Vegas” (NBC) 7.51m
3. “Men in Trees” (ABC) 6.42m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Numb3rs” (CBS) 2.7/9
2. “Ghost Whisperer” (CBS) 2.4/9
3. “Las Vegas” (NBC) 2.1/7
4. “Moonlight” (CBS) 2.1/7
5. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 2.0/7
6. “Women’s Murder Club” (ABC) 2.0/6
7. “Friday Night Lights” (NBC) 1.9/6
8. “20/20” (ABC) 1.7/6
9. “Men in Trees” (ABC) 1.7/5
10. “The Next Great American Band” (Series Premiere) (8-10) (FOX) 1.5/5
11. “Friday Night Smackdown” (CW) 1.4/5

Source: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/63310451



I posted the Final Nationals in the post before this but I wanted to know if there was an interest in that or if the Fast Nationals are fine. If there's interest, I don't mind doing it but I will just edit that night's fast nationals and replace it with the final nationals to keep the thread length down a bit.

Wow! The ratings for The Next Great American Band were so bad they didn't even appear on Friday's List. Getting beat by Friday Night Smackdown is fucking embarrassing. Nigel Lythgoe, Ken Warrick and Simon Fuller are probably dumbfounded right now after seeing those shitty numbers or lack there of.

Wow... something needs to be done about MEN IN TREES... I love that show too much for it to crash and burn!

FOX routinely gets beaten by Smackdown. I really didn't expect much for Band on a Friday. I imagine the target audience for that show is out on Friday nights and not watching TV. I think it would've done better if it was on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday (they'd never put it on Sunday or Monday).

Shhh… don’t say anything, don’t give FOX any ideas about moving the show. Let at least one reality show go away.

Sad numbers for Men In Trees. I like both Las Vegas and Men In Trees, so I'm sad they are on at the same time. I watch them both (record) but one will most likely go.

That makes me curious what would happen if a hugely successful established show was moved to Friday. Would it completely crash and burn, or would the audience make that extra effort? Like if American Idol was moved to Friday... I wonder how much of a hit it would take.

It would probably lose about 10 million. As you know, Friday nights are a night to go out, especially for younger people. That is why most of the shows on Friday nights skew to older people.

Of course in the 90's, ABC had a pretty good Friday nights, but that was geared mostly towards kids.

The X Files didn't flourish in the ratings until it moved to moved to Sundays.


Chris

Sunday – 10/21
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “NFL Football Overrun” (FOX) 20.91m
2. “MLB ALCS Game 7” (FOX) 18.09m
3. “Desperate Housewives” (ABC) 17.78m
4. “The OT” (FOX) 13.74m
5. “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” (ABC) 13.56m
6. “Brothers & Sisters” (ABC) 11.92m
7. “Sunday Night Football: Pittsburgh at Denver” (NBC) 11.82m
8. “Cold Case” (CBS) 11.44m
9. “60 Minutes” (CBS) 11.14m
10. “Shark” (CBS) 10.93m
11. “America’s Funniest Home Videos” (ABC) 8.36m
12. “Viva Laughlin” (CBS) 6.77m
13. “Football Night in America” (NBC) 6.28m
14. “America’s Next Top Model” (R) (CW) 1.61m
15. “Life is Wild” (CW) 1.58m
16. “Aliens in America” (R) (CW) 1.28m
17. “CW Now” (CW) 0.89m

7:00-8:00
1. “NFL Overrun” / “The OT” (FOX) 17.33m
2. “60 Minutes” (CBS) 11.14m
3. “America’s Funniest Home Videos” (ABC) 8.36m
4. “Football Night in America” (NBC) 6.28m
5. “CW Now” / “Aliens in America” (R) (CW) 1.09m

8:00-9:00
1. “MLB ALCS Game 7” (FOX) ??.??m
2. “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” (ABC) 13.56m
3. “Sunday Night Football: Pittsburgh at Denver” (NBC) ??.??m
4. “Viva Laughlin” (CBS) 6.77m
5. “Life is Wild” (CW) 1.58m

9:00-10:00
1. “MLB ALCS Game 7” (FOX) ??.??m
2. “Desperate Housewives” (ABC) 17.78m
3. “Sunday Night Football: Pittsburgh at Denver” (NBC) ??.??m
4. “Cold Case” (CBS) 11.44m
5. “America’s Next Top Model” (R) (CW) 1.61m

10:00-11:00
1. “Brothers & Sisters” (ABC) 11.92m
2. “Sunday Night Football: Pittsburgh at Denver” (NBC) ??.??m
3. “Shark” (CBS) 10.93m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “NFL Football Overrun” (FOX) 7.9/24
2. “Desperate Housewives” (ABC) 7.1/16
3. “MLB ALCS Game 7” (FOX) 6.3/15
4. “The OT” (FOX) 5.2/15
5. “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition” (ABC) 5.0/13
6. “Brothers & Sisters” (ABC) 4.8/12
7. “Sunday Night Football: Pittsburgh at Denver” (NBC) 4.8/11
8. “America’s Funniest Home Videos” (ABC) 2.6/8
9. “Cold Case” (CBS) 2.6/6
10. “Shark” (CBS) 2.5/6
11. “Football Night in America” (NBC) 2.4/7
12. “60 Minutes” (CBS) 2.2/7
13. “Viva Laughlin” (CBS) 1.2/2
14. “America’s Next Top Model” (R) (CW) 0.6/1
15. “Aliens in America” (R) (CW) 0.5/1
16. “Life is Wild” (CW) 0.5/1
17. “CW Now” (CBS) 0.4/1

I have been meaning to ask, but what do the shows highlighted in red mean?

Oh, that's just my own way of saying bad/awful ratings... :b

I don't bother doing the CW shows since it's a given they have bad ratings (save for Smallville and America's Next Top Model).

Monday – 10/22
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (8-9:30) (ABC) 19.96m
2. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.48m
3. “Samantha Who?” (ABC) 14.35m
4. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 13.74m
5. “Rules of Engagement” (CBS) 10.82m
6. “Heroes” (NBC) 10.70m
7. “The Bachelor” (ABC) 9.20m
8. “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) 8.72m
9. “How I Met Your Mother” (CBS) 8.60m
10. “Prison Break” (FOX) 7.45m
11. “Chuck” (NBC) 7.14m
12. “Journeyman” (NBC) 6.28m
13. “K-Ville” (FOX) 6.12m
14. “The Game” (CW) 2.54m
15. “Everybody Hates Chris” (CW) 2.53m
16. “Aliens in America” (CW) 2.35m
17. “Girlfriends” (CW) 2.14m

8:00-9:00
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 19.04m
2. “How I Met Your Mother” / “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) 8.66m
3. “Prison Break” (FOX) 7.45m
4. “Chuck” (NBC) 7.14m
5. “Everybody Hates Chris” / “Aliens in America” (CW) 2.44m

9:00-10:00
1. “Dancing with the Stars” / “Samantha Who?” (ABC) 18.08m
2. “Two and a Half Men” / “Rules of Engagement” (CBS) 12.28m
3. “Heroes” (NBC) 10.70m
4. “K-Ville” (FOX) 6.12m
5. “Girlfriends” / “The Game” (CW) 2.34m

10:00-11:00
1. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.48m
2. “The Bachelor” (ABC) 9.20m
3. “Journeyman” (NBC) 6.28m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (8-9:30) (ABC) 5.3/13
2. “Heroes” (NBC) 4.9/12
3. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 4.8/11
4. “Samantha Who?” (ABC) 4.6/10
5. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 4.5/11
6. “Rules of Engagement” (CBS) 3.9/9
7. “The Big Bang Theory” (CBS) 3.5/9
8. “How I Met Your Mother” (CBS) 3.4/9
9. “The Bachelor” (ABC) 3.4/8
10. “Prison Break” (FOX) 3.0/8
11. “Chuck” (NBC) 2.8/7
12. “Journeyman” (NBC) 2.5/6
13. “K-Ville” (FOX) 2.1/5
14. “The Game” (CW) 1.2/3
15. “Everybody Hates Chris” (CW) 1.0/3
16. “Aliens in America” (CW) 0.9/2
17. “Girlfriends” (CW) 0.9/2

I imagine so, although with DVRs becoming more and more prevalent I'm surprised it still matters. I was reading an article about how when DVR ratings to be factored in, certain shows gain millions of viewers who watch it at a later date, from just the overnight ratings which are usually reported. It makes me wonder if the percentage increase from the added DVR viewers would be significantly more for Friday shows, or if people just aren't bothering with the Friday lineups altogether.

Wow, ABC really has a hit with Samantha Who?

Week 1: 14.92M
Week 2: 14.35M

They were smart to program it after DWTS.

Chris