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pinata242 04-30-07 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by wildcatlh
Peter has Claire's ability.

How do you figure? Did he use it and I missed it? When did he get that scar?


Originally Posted by Shazam
It's not the turning point. In fact, it's gotten worse because it's Peter that exploded, not Sylar, and Peter is now virtually indestructible because he has Claire's powers, so Hiro's gotta kill Nathan (or Sylar as Nathan) it seems to somehow stop Peter from exploding in NY.

But we don't know if the explosion would kill Ted so it is possible neither Peter nor Sylar would need Claire's power to recover. It hasn't killed Ted yet or even given him radiation poisoning.

bboisvert 04-30-07 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by N2DVD
Now THAT is what a comic book television show (or MOVIE) should be like.

I have to agree.

I've been liking this show since the beginning. This is the first episode that I *loved*. They really knocked it out of the park tonight.

Draven 04-30-07 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
How do you figure? Did he use it and I missed it? When did he get that scar?


But we don't know if the explosion would kill Ted so it is possible neither Peter nor Sylar would need Claire's power to recover. It hasn't killed Ted yet or even given him radiation poisoning.

Peter has had Claire's ability since he first met her.

I personally think it's pretty obvious that the Nuclear Man can blow up without hurting himself. I do wonder about the scar though.

Needless to say, awesome episode. If there is one person I don't want to fuck with, it's Peter. And I spent the whole episode wondering who was Candace - didn't even think of Sylar taking her ability too.

maingon 04-30-07 09:55 PM

I cant wait to get this on HD-DVD

Shazam 04-30-07 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
But we don't know if the explosion would kill Ted so it is possible neither Peter nor Sylar would need Claire's power to recover. It hasn't killed Ted yet or even given him radiation poisoning.

Well, Ted's alive even after blowing up Claire's house, so I'm sure Peter will survive blowing up NY.

We didn't really find out if Claire ever met Peter in the alternate timeline, but I suppose the scar on Peter is the big clue that he doesn't have Claire's power.

Michael Ballack 04-30-07 09:59 PM

If Peter didn't meet Claire, how is she alive?

Snowmaker 04-30-07 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Shazam
We didn't really find out if Claire ever met Peter in the alternate timeline, but I suppose the scar on Peter is the big clue that he doesn't have Claire's power.

Unless the Hatian was around when he got the scar.

MrX 04-30-07 10:03 PM

Awesome episode

"Future me, he's a good guy":lol:

pinata242 04-30-07 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
If Peter didn't meet Claire, how is she alive?

That's bugging me too. I guess there's a lot to this alternate timeline I don't know and shouldn't take any of it at face value.

Ok, I guess this explains it well enough for me. Future Hiro has been traveling, building his timelines. He only just got back from visiting Peter on the subway to deliver the message when this episode kicks off. So anything Future Hiro says about the last 5 years can't be considered canon because anything could have changed - namely Peter saving Claire and preventing Sylar from getting the power.

Why, then, the future didn't change because in that past Hiro would have stabbed and killed a non-regenerating Sylar is beyond me. Maybe because Past Hiro had been removed from the timeline up to that point until he learns in the future what he should do in the past and actually goes back to live those moments.

That works well enough for me. Carry on.

Ted The Bug 04-30-07 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Michael Ballack
If Peter didn't meet Claire, how is she alive?

It's only alternate from the NY explosion (or shortly before) onward. All the stuff Hiro already changed (Peter saving Claire) was the same in this timeline.

Shazam 04-30-07 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Snowmaker
Unless the Hatian was around when he got the scar.

But wouldn't it have healed once he left?

My head hurts.

Tommy Ceez 04-30-07 10:12 PM

Actually, I think that clair, JUST THE INSTANT THAT FUTURE HERO ENTERED TEH APARTMENT, was 'reborn'...when FH left a minute ago, Claire was dead for 5 yars, he returns from Peter and she's alive.

It even seemed that HRG had to think about it for a second when Hiro asked if Clair was alive.

BTW...in the timeline that Clair dies, Sylar explodes, but in the claire living timeline, Peter explodes.

Thats why Hiro was retracing his steps...he thought keeping Sylar away from Claire would stop the bomb, not realizing that Sylar could still push Peter to explode. NOW, he realizes that it is a 2 step process.

1. Keep Claire away from Sylar to stop HIM from detonating
2. Kill Sylar to stop him from manipulating events to cause Peter to explode

JasonF 04-30-07 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Why, then, the future didn't change because in that past Hiro would have stabbed and killed a non-regenerating Sylar is beyond me. Maybe because Past Hiro had been removed from the timeline up to that point until he learns in the future what he should do in the past and actually goes back to live those moments.

That works well enough for me. Carry on.

Two reasons: First, as you point out, in the timeline of this episode, present-Hiro got sent five years into the future before he had a chance to kill Sylar. Presumably, now that he is back in the present, he will kill Sylar, preventing the explosion. Except ...

The second reason is that Sylar is apparently a scapegoat -- Peter is apparently the one who blows up New York.

SuperBatMan 04-30-07 10:13 PM

God, I love this show.

Nathan being Sylar never crossed my mind at all until he started talking weird to Claire. Peter was a fuckin' badass in the future.

Can't wait for the three part season finale!!!

Tommy Ceez 04-30-07 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by JasonF
The second reason is that Sylar is apparently a scapegoat -- Peter is apparently the one who blows up New York.

Important part...does Sylar PUSH Peter into exploding?

ravan 04-30-07 10:27 PM

a.w.e.s.o.m.e!!!

Tommy Ceez 04-30-07 10:31 PM

The alternate timeline...General Nockamora...the war...the underground, would make a fantastic show in itself

cornflakeguy 04-30-07 10:44 PM

What happened after Sylar and Peter lit up their fists in the hall? My DVR cut off.

They didn't actually fight, did they?

DAMMIT!

PopcornTreeCt 04-30-07 10:50 PM

Great episode. I think this is how it went down. Bear with me...when Future Hiro visited Peter on the subway he told Peter "Save the cheerleader, save the world" Future Hiro said that because he had already tried to kill Sylar but failed. Sylar had killed Claire and gotten her power in the alternate timeline. So, Future Hiro went back to the past before Sylar could kill Claire and told Peter thus saving her. Peter does have Claire's ability he has had her healing ability since near the beginning of the season. And so far, Sylar doesn't have Claire's ability until the future but I'm pretty sure that version of the future will never be realized. I'm sure the scar will be explained eventually. I'm thinking that Peter sets off the bomb, though that doesn't explain how Sylar faked his death.

The next episode looks incredible.
Spoiler:
I would bet that the new little girl they showed us has the ability to take away abilities from heroes. It would make sense when they say that "she's the only one that could kill Sylar".


Great episode. Hope we get more "future" episodes.

ravan 04-30-07 10:51 PM

No you didnt see anything - only flashes of light.. and hiro transported them back. The end. (my tivo recorded 62 minutes btw - so somehow DTV must have gotten an update out)

JasonF 04-30-07 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by cornflakeguy
What happened after Sylar and Peter lit up their fists in the hall? My DVR cut off.

They didn't actually fight, did they?

DAMMIT!

We didn't really get to see the fight -- they cut to Hiro and Ando in the room. Hiro was paralyzed with fear having seen his future self killed. Ando talked him back to rationality and Hiro used his powers to teleport the two of them back to the present. Hiro looked at the comic he had brought with him, showing him killing Sylar and said "Now comes the hard part."

Joeboo835 04-30-07 11:03 PM

my wonderful cable provider (charter) decided to cut hte HD feeds for CBS and NBC tonight, so i didn't get to see the pole dance in HD. I feel cheated.

Jimmy James 04-30-07 11:04 PM

Maybe Claire never did die due to what Sylar did to her. We don't know (unless it's in the comics) precisely what he does once he gets the top off to get the powers in him, so maybe it's something Claire actually survived. She does have the healing power, after all.

Likewise, perhaps Peter got the scar before meeting Claire in this timeline but has indeed met her by the 5 year out point.

Shazam 04-30-07 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Likewise, perhaps Peter got the scar before meeting Claire in this timeline but has indeed met her by the 5 year out point.

Ah, I think you're right.

Rogue588 04-30-07 11:16 PM

Holy.mother.fucking.shit.

This episode was fucking fantastic. Truly.


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