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Old 04-05-07 | 06:19 PM
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I said that too awhile back when the tide was getting high on the beach.
I didn't see that - I guess we are both geniuses, since we are on the same page and all.
Old 04-05-07 | 06:25 PM
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That's very possible; I can't recall the specifics of that scene for some reason. In which case would make Jack being knocked out that long very odd. It would be interesting to see if Sayid was awake or just restrained from leaving.
Sayid: "I just finished searching all of the houses, uh, er, except for the one that Jack was passed out in."
Old 04-05-07 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Peep
Sayid: "I just finished searching all of the houses, uh, er, except for the one that Jack was passed out in."
Or, Juliet told him that Kate was getting Jack so he searched every other house.
Old 04-05-07 | 08:12 PM
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Old 04-05-07 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by aktick
The way I understood it, they woke up on the same side of the "fence" as the Losties are on. Then it chased them to the fence, and they went back to the side the Dharma housing is on.
couldnt hav been. when they woke up, they went into the others village...remember kate went into the house jack was staying in?
Old 04-05-07 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cracksky
I watched this show with the Closed-Captioning on and one of the sounds that is heard when Kate and Juliet are at the fence is referred to as [rattling] like a rattlesnake. This same sound is heard immediately before the spiders attack Nikki, she turns to react to it and the captioning says [rattling in distance]. Obviously, the smoke monster was near but maybe backed off when the spiders did their thing.
Thank you! I hope people will believe smokey WAS there now.

I think smokey came up and scanned Juliet because "he" hadn't seen her before, and didn't have her brain or thoughts scanned, but had Kate's.
Old 04-05-07 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
couldnt hav been. when they woke up, they went into the others village...remember kate went into the house jack was staying in?
That was the last thing they did (went into the house Jack was in), AFTER they were back on the "safe" side of the fence.
Old 04-05-07 | 09:14 PM
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When is Smokey's flashback episode? I really hope his backstory explains why he is afraid of an electric fence.
Old 04-05-07 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aktick
Thank you! I hope people will believe smokey WAS there now.

I think smokey came up and scanned Juliet because "he" hadn't seen her before, and didn't have her brain or thoughts scanned, but had Kate's.
I disagree. I think it scanned Juliet and knew somehow not to attack her. I noticed that Juliet fully opened her eyes and stared into it and that's when it scanned them and went away.This island belongs to the others. The smoke monster was created by them
Old 04-05-07 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cracksky
The reason Jack was knocked out longer (overnight) was because there were two gas canisters thrown into his place. It also did look like his place was tossed. Maybe someone was looking for something in there. Maybe there was a fight between Jack and Locke (after the sub explosion). Remember, Locke had a bandage on his hand when his spoke to Kate.
I figured Locke's hand was all taped up because he'd just got done beating the holy crap out of his dad for 8 or 9 hours.
Old 04-05-07 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
.This island belongs to the others. The smoke monster was created by them
Thats debateable. Many still believe that Smokey was giving Ethan problems when he was making his way towards the Losties camp in the very first episode, though we never saw any of this. Remember the first episode was the closest Smokey had come to the beach and was having a loud fit about something.

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Old 04-05-07 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aktick
Thank you! I hope people will believe smokey WAS there now.
That sound could be (and probably is) just a "something creepy is about to happen in the jungle now" catch-all sound. It's no indication that smokey was there and I am really, really getting tired of the insistance that it is. This whole debate is more irritating than the "Hurley" bird one.
Old 04-05-07 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ1276
I disagree. I think it scanned Juliet and knew somehow not to attack her. I noticed that Juliet fully opened her eyes and stared into it and that's when it scanned them and went away.This island belongs to the others. The smoke monster was created by them
Also a possibility. But I think her fear was genuine - she didn't know WTF it was going to do, even though she may have seen it before.

Actually, my theory about Smokey from S1 (when Danielle said it was a security system) was that it was protecting a portion of the island FROM the Others.
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That sound could be (and probably is) just a "something creepy is about to happen in the jungle now" catch-all sound. It's no indication that smokey was there and I am really, really getting tired of the insistance that it is. This whole debate is more irritating than the "Hurley" bird one.
If you can find another instance when the closed captioning mentions "rattling," when it is without a doubt not Smokey, then I'll buy that it wasn't Smokey.

The sound goes back to the S1 finale, when Jack, Locke, Kate, and Hurley are walking back with the dynamite. The rattling sound is heard at the same time Smokey is seen bouncing through the trees.
Old 04-05-07 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Spoiler:
Speaking of Ethan they showed him in the preview for next week.
Please read the forum rules before posting.
Old 04-05-07 | 10:37 PM
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Please read the forum rules before posting.
If you watched this episode they showed the clip? I don't see how if qualifies as a spoiler anymore. If you didn't watch the episode, then most of the discussion in the thread should be hidden.
Old 04-05-07 | 10:40 PM
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Again, read the forum rules. We don't discuss previews for next week without spoiler tags. Not trying to get on your case, just pointing it out to be helpful.
Old 04-05-07 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Groucho
Again, read the forum rules. We don't discuss previews for next week without spoiler tags. Not trying to get on your case, just pointing it out to be helpful.
Thats ok, I never figured we couldn't talk about previews. Sorry to all!
Old 04-05-07 | 11:05 PM
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well not as good as the previous 2 episodes but still the story is moving along at a decent speed.
Old 04-05-07 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cracksky
Also, when the Others were masking up, it seemed that Juliet was there as well (sky blue top and blue jeans) but that couldv'e been someone else.
I went back and checked, that girl had a short sweater on that was sky blue, juliet had on a longer V-neck. The girl also had a belt on
Old 04-05-07 | 11:41 PM
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So will we see Michael and Walt this season at all?
Old 04-05-07 | 11:55 PM
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So will we see Michael and Walt this season at all?
I don't think so, but very little is known about this finale. Harold Perrineau is in talks with ABC about a recurring role (note: he is not negotiating to become a regular again) in Season 4. It'll be interesting to see how that pans out ... will we just be seeing him off-island, and any efforts he makes to try and find the island again? I have a feeling Malcom David Kelley (Walt) won't be appearing again, and his story arc will be wrapped up off-island through Michael. Unless there really IS something to do with "Lost Time" going on, I just can't see how his growth spurt can be feasibly written around.
Old 04-06-07 | 12:00 AM
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The next episode is written by Carlton Cuse (Enter 77, both finales) and Drew Goddard (Flashes Before Your Eyes, The Man From Tallahassee) and directed by Jack Bender (who has directed Walkabout, Live Together Die Alone and just about every other great episode of LOST). Breaking out the big guns like this can only mean next weeks episode will be fucking stellar.
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Yeah, Walt comes back to the island, and even though they've only been there 90 days he can grow a beard and has completed puberty.
Old 04-06-07 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by aktick
Thank you! I hope people will believe smokey WAS there now.

I think smokey came up and scanned Juliet because "he" hadn't seen her before, and didn't have her brain or thoughts scanned, but had Kate's.
Putting some things together, it would appear that the "monster" judges people. When it killed Eko, it seemed to offer his some form of redemption when it was in the form of Yemi. And when Eko rejected it, he was killed.

We've seen The Others, as far back as Goodwin, claim they were dividing the 815 survivors into "good" people and "not good" people.

Is there a connection there?

If the monster is judging and killing "bad" people, then Kate would probably qualify as she murdered her father and Locke seemed to reject her because of it (or something else even worse that has yet to be disclosed).

Could she have been handcuffed to Juliette in order to prevent the monster from killing Kate? If Kate was connected to a "good" person, then it might not harm her if it was unable to do so without harming the "good" person? Would certainly seem to explain why the monster left Juliette alone, and why she had a key to the handcuffs.

Or, for it could be just the opposite, and Ben handcuffed her to Kate so that the monster would kill them both, providing it wouldn't mind killing a "good" person in order to punish a "bad" person.


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