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Red Dog 04-05-07 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Groucho
Sawyer: "I'm sorry I had Charlie pose as an Other and drag you into the jungle. But look, I'm holding a baby! I'm a nice guy now! Friend?"

Sun: "Fuck you, asshole!"


Well that I could figure out :lol: , but it just seemed like more than that, but maybe I'm just overanalyzing like everyone else does.

Therecanbonly1 04-05-07 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by BamaDan
If they moved from the beach to the Others' camp wouldn't that be "crossing the line" to the highest degree? If Juliet can disable the gates, wouldn't Ben and the Others be able to do the same and come get them at any time? Say what you will about the interaction between the two "tribes," but the Others have never launched a full assault on the beach, even if they have the guns and ability to do so. They seem perfectly content to hatch evil plans to steal babies and stuff, but have stayed on their side.

I think Julia could only get to the activate/deactivate keypad becasuse she had deactivated the gate when she carried Kate out. I think (being that she had the key to the handcuffs); She either was not knocked out or knocked out outside the houses. She carried unconscious Kate into the woods and attahed the handcuffs to the both of them (she laid in wait of Kate waking and waited for the exact moment to "wake up"). Jack was still unconscious because he was inside the house. Sayid was chained to the swingset and we don't know if he was awake or asleep (but Juliet got him...).

Finally, was anyone else confused about when Locke talked to Kate? She had the fight with Julia (left lying on the floor holding her stomache with the sandwich next to her). When Locke comes in she is sitting at the table with her back to him. When the others start to leave, she wakes up on the floor holding her stomache right next to the sandwich!?! Are we to assume she thought that was just a really comfy place to sleep?

dvd182 04-05-07 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by PalmerJoss
I also know that next weeks episode is a
Spoiler:
Juliet flashback, but I for one want to see an episode centering around Ben, or even Tom.

Spoiler:
The rumor is that the finale will be a Ben flashback.

das Monkey 04-05-07 10:31 AM

Two episodes in a row now where Sawyer acts completely out of character to serve the plot. It's doubly disappointing that Damon is credited as writing this most recent foolishness. He's too good a character, and Holloway's too good in the role, to be treated this way.

das

GuessWho 04-05-07 10:33 AM

So is Locke's dad still in the box alone? Did Locke beat the crap out of him? Did he go with the Others as Locke's prisoner?

Chooch 04-05-07 10:37 AM

I didn't take it that Sawyer didn't know to be nice, just that he didn't want to be nice. He wants everyone to hate him because he hates what he used to do to people. W

hen Hurley told Sawyer he might be banished, he realized he had no choice, since he didn't want/couldn't to go through all the work of surviving for himself.

Hurley was conned him because he wanted Sawyer to be then new leader.

Therecanbonly1 04-05-07 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
So is Locke's dad still in the box alone? Did Locke beat the crap out of him? Did he go with the Others as Locke's prisoner?

Or was Locke given the chance to set him free to show that he was "good"?

heavy liquid 04-05-07 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by maxfisher
Hello, my name's James Ford, but you can call me Sawyer. In my old life, I was a professional con man who scammed people for a whole lot of money. Funnily enough, in all my years of deception, I never did learn how to fake being nice to people. One might find that a tad unrealistic, but it really makes perfect sense. You see, the writers come up with story ideas and then they write characters to fit those plot points, rather than going for any kind of consistency. It's also the reason I've pretty much constantly bounced back and forth from being an asshole to a decent guy over the last couple years, or months, depending on your point of view. Anyway, I was just stopping by because the writers asked me to come out and explain why it's not completely retarded that a professional con man wouldn't have a clue how to trick people into liking him. I hope you enjoyed the comic hijinx as Hurley taught me how to be nice, and were a bit moved when I finally learned my lesson. Of course, next week, I'll probably be back to being a complete asshole. Please keep watching!

rotfl

maingon 04-05-07 10:43 AM

I liked it, Kates backstory is so-so. but great seeing the creature again. Love that sound it makes. I really liked the Hurly Swayer subplot. good episode

DVD Josh 04-05-07 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by dvd182
Spoiler:
The rumor is that the finale will be a Ben flashback.

Spoiler:
also true

0073735963 04-05-07 10:47 AM

Any clue why smokey didn't just go over the top of the fence? Is it a product of the Others or is there some secondary smokey-only shield above the fence posts? -confused-

boogieman03 04-05-07 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by maingon
I liked it, Kates backstory is so-so. but great seeing the creature again. Love that sound it makes. I really liked the Hurly Swayer subplot. good episode


Speaking of which, that sound, was not present before the spiders attacked last week. :horse:

orangerory 04-05-07 10:54 AM

What is the big mystery about where the Others went? I mean - we all know that they have the other island where Jack, Kate and Sawyer were - they probably took Locke's dad over there so he could put him the bear cage or something.

And - anyone think that maybe the Others left so that the beach folks WOULD move in to the village - and maybe they could do some more observations. And they left Juliet behind so she could work the fence for them.

Palaver 04-05-07 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by orangerory
What is the big mystery about where the Others went? I mean - we all know that they have the other island where Jack, Kate and Sawyer were - they probably took Locke's dad over there so he could put him the bear cage or something.

And - anyone think that maybe the Others left so that the beach folks WOULD move in to the village - and maybe they could do some more observations. And they left Juliet behind so she could work the fence for them.

It has been said (or implied) that they were on the island separate from Dharma. The village seemed to be built by Dharma. It would be safe to assume that they have their own place to live that may not be as nice as the Dharma village.

They probably left the village because they realized it was not safe from the Losties anymore. If one group found them, it is likely other Losties will continue to come, looking for their friends.

Josh H 04-05-07 11:04 AM

Ok episode. Back story utterly useless as the past couple of Kate one's have been.

Island stuff was entertaining, but didn't really reveal anything other than the other's know about smokey, but don't know much other than that he doesn't like the fence.

Will be glad to see all the losties (sans locke) back together on the beach next week. Hopefully things will finally pick up.

mkdevo 04-05-07 11:25 AM

Sayid: "It's like 50 people just vanished into thin air."

smokey = the others.

duh.

Doug Heffernan 04-05-07 11:59 AM

If Kate/Sayid/Locke could prop up a tree and climb over the "sonic fence," then why couldn't the smoke monster just go over it????

d2cheer 04-05-07 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by maxfisher
At least his comments are pertaining to the show and not just his opinion of someone else's opinion on the show. Of course, I'm now making a comment on someone's opinion of someone's opinion of the show, so who am I to talk? :D

The long and short of it is, any show that starts as strongly as Lost and then drops off in quality is going to have a segment of disappointed, legitimate fans who stick around longer than the casual viewers, who are willing to drop the show as soon as it bores them. We'll keep watching and participating in discussions and when something bothers us, we'll point it out. If there's an episode that we really enjoy, we'll point that out too. It's great that you're still enjoying the show and I know there are plenty of people that agree with you. These discussions are for all of us, though, not just the ones who find no fault with the show. The threads are most interesting when people point out what they did or did not like about an episode, as opposed to devolving into the 'this show sucks' and 'so why don't you quit watching' nonsense.

I actually think the threads are better when people theorize on what everything means and what they think will happen next. While I agree everyone here can post their opinion on what they like or do not like and some are very good about expressing what they do or do not like, it gets rather tiresome to read the same people post every week about how that episode sucked etc... but yet they are back every week to complain. I actually think this season is getting stronger as it goes along and know they are going to have a great finale.

One thing that made me wonder though is why was Jack sleeping/knocked out longer than Kate?

That being said if they kill off Locke-- I am done watching this show -wink-

mrpayroll 04-05-07 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by MrX
I thought the Sawyer and Hurley stuff was great.

But what was the point of it? To make Sawyer think he can be a leader? And now that
Spoiler:
Jack is coming back to the camp next week, is that the next storyline? Sawyer and Jack fighting over who will be the leader of the camp>?
It just seems like a wasted plotline to me.

Chris

mrpayroll 04-05-07 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by Groucho
This episode did not answer every question I have, therefore it sucked. :grunt:

You sir, are a person who expects everything to be handed to them on a silver platter! -ohbfrank-

Chris

Rogue588 04-05-07 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Whats that Rogue? Sketchy memory here!

That Jack was an other.

Gdrlv 04-05-07 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
So is Locke's dad still in the box alone? Did Locke beat the crap out of him? Did he go with the Others as Locke's prisoner?

FWIW, at least one of his hands was bandaged when he was talking to Kate.

aktick 04-05-07 12:36 PM

Subterranean passage. That's how they "vanished."

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ck/Image19.jpg

heavy liquid 04-05-07 12:39 PM

Flashback schedule for the last 8 episodes:

Spoiler:

03x16 "One of Us" - Juliet
03x17 "Catch-22" - Desmond
03x18 "D.O.C." - Jin and Sun
03x19 "The Brig" - Jack
03x20 "The Man Behind the Curtain" - Karen and Gerald DeGroot
03x21 "Greatest Hits" - Charlie
03x22 TBA - Ben as a young man
03x23 TBA - Ben as Ben

The last two episodes will air the same night as a 2 hour finale.

Big Boy Laroux 04-05-07 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by heavy liquid
Flashback schedule for the last 8 episodes:

Spoiler:

03x20 "The Man Behind the Curtain" - Karen and Gerald DeGroot


Who the hell is that? Did i miss something?


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