Hurley: "No way... Mr. LaShade was The Cobra?"

Hobbit: "Is that supposed to mean something?"

Hurley: "Dude, The Cobra was this big bad guy. His identity's been shrouded in mystery for four seasons."

That would gel with my theory that Jack's tattoos ("He walks among us, but he is not one of us") point to him being the "great man" the Others are always talking about being the leader behind their group.

But if he was the leader, why would Ben and Juliette be talking about whether he would help them or not? How could he be an unknown leader?

but haven't we (the viewers) seen private convos between jack and at least one other, where jack is just trying to figure out wtf is going on? why the act for just the viewers (us)? unless "the viewers" are also half the of others (who are watching everything on closed circuit security cams) and they were being recorded for them to keep the illusion that jack is not really with them. this would mean that the others are split into two groups and only one group is "self-aware" of this split and is putting on a show for the other half.

this show makes my head hurt - but in a good way.

I must have missed why Jack, Kate and Sawyer were taken, why again??



I think we have a Total Recall ending coming... if you have seen the movie you know what I am talking about.

I thought Nikki's dialogue also hinted at some stuff for her character, possibly...

Something like "Of course I have to die, I'm just a guest star...it's what everyone is expecting..."

And the guy says "But you could come back...bullet proof vest"..

This would be a good thing. Anyone know if the ratings went down yet again last night?

after reading through these pages, I'm left with a nagging question ...













where are the screencaps of Nikki?

I think that's one of the points of this episode -- reinforcing "live together, die alone." I also suspect they planned Nikki & Paulo's arc from the beginning of the season. They were written to be disposable in the brief appearances they had before.

I don't think it was explicitely stated, but I think it is because Ben knows he can use the love triangle as leverage against Jack to convince him to do the surgery.

Another reason I look at Jack as a possible Other is that he was the only crash survivor to wake up in the middle of the jungle. Sure he could have been thrown out of the plane prior to the crash (although I don't recall him being that beaten up), but he also could have been planted there prior to the crash.

At this point my half-assed theory really hinges on the fact that Jack is unaware of the fact that he was ever associated with the Others. It could be that he suffered partial amnesia following the crash or that his memory was manipulated (through his own plan or perhaps by Ben trying to oust him) that led to his association with the Losties. Maybe the idea is just way out there, but I refuse to believe that his last flashback episode that everybody simply disregarded told us so little about him.

For me though that's the beauty of this show. It really lends itself to crackpot ideas from the fans and throws out just enough clues and dead ends that anyone can convince themselves they have it almost figured out.

Jack was shown on the plane.

another odd LOST character connection (kinda sorta) -

(taken from another LOST messageboard)

apparently the TV show Locke was watching last week in his apt (in the flashback right before the young kid knocked on the door) was EXPOSE. the dialogue from the beginning of this episode is what can be heard as Locke is eating his TV dinner.

can anyone confirm this?

why did boone want a pen?

He was helping Jack with an emergency tracheotomy... (see Episode 1)

You need to listen a few more times then. I can't see how anyone can miss it.

Ben & Juliet obviously knew Paulo was listening to them and staged the conversation for his benefit. They knew from his files that he would keep his mouth shut about them, so long as he didn't think Jack was one of them. That's just how Paulo rolls.

This will all make more sense when we see the flashback to that flashback, later in the season. Several episodes after that, we'll actually find out, via flashback, that Paulo and Jack are the same person, similar to Tyler Durden and the narrator, also known as 'Jack', in Fight Club. We'll see scenes that you think you've seen before, but now you'll see what really happened and find that everyone has been really confused about why Jack sometimes pretends not to know anyone except for some hot chick named Nikki that he yells at from time to time. Oh, and while we're talking about Nikki... Yeah, she's imaginary. Wait until you see the flashbacks that explain all of this. They won't necessarily make sense, but they'll blow your fucking mind.

Just did again. I hear jungle noise (animals) not monster noise.

Yes it's Expose. I heard the name "The Cobra" mentioned. It's apparently a different episode, or a different part of the episode that Nikki was shooting.

Question for you guys:

Since Nikki and Paolo were new characters, Do you think the flashback scenes from Season 1 crash site re-shot completely to incorporate their perspectives? I mean that would have taken alot of money to duplicate the chaos of the crash scene from the pilot just to add their perspective. Or do you think they were added in through computer?

Not only that, but he shared a drink with AnaL at the Sydney airport and drew a lot of attention to himself (notably from Jin) when he was arguing with the Oceanic Flights rep regarding his dad's coffin.

Jack as an Other = does not compute.

It was probably the premiere episode of the series. That was 4 years before the flight, right?

Without the season one set to confirm, I'm going to assume a lot of it had to do with clever editing and perhaps a little CG thrown in, as opposed to reshooting the scenes.

Clearly my idea that he was placed near the crash site may be off base, but with the Others former access to the "outside" world it is very possible that he may have been off the island (or even exiled from the island by someone threatened by him) for some time before the crash.

Might be over the top, but if you look at Lost as more of a literary experience than a simple television show, few things are as effective as a plot device than revealing that everything we knew about a character was false or they have links with the "bad guys" that we were not aware of.

Anyone who has seen the aforementioned Total Recall or played through Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic knows that this could be a really cool development if it were true.