i dont think there is anyway to explain everything. when the series ends...we are all gonna say...well what about...

I thought it was a great episode that answered some Desmond questions but raised others just like the great Lost episodes do.

Thinking back to season one when Jack revived Charlie after Ethan hung him, there are numerous times death was thwarted from getting Charlie. I thought it was just his luck to get out of the situations, but after Desmond's speech, it's another one of the little things that are added that make the show that much more awesome.

Jeez. The season is only EIGHT episodes in and you're ready to write it off after watching for two seasons?

Yes. "Make Your Own Kind of Music" played multiple times in Desmond's "flashback"... harkening back to what he was listening to in the hatch when Locke and Boone blew off the door.

Definitely one of the best episodes and there was quite literally little to no island action. It was almost all flashback/forwards/sideways.

I think this is the key here. The comment that he has no value other to press the button. She said it and so did Penny's father. Think back a week people. What happened to Alex's boyfriend? Brainwashed. The old lady could be an 'Other' who who was in charge of brainwashing him into thinking that was his sole purpose. Different brainwashing sessions would yield different "timelines/outcomes" in Desmond's memory. And once free of the brainwashing, all of them meld together in some incoherent mish-mash of a memory. Wasn't there a psychology hatch? They could have been doing the brainwashing to try and instill him with the precog ability(did the magnet in the Swan hatch keep that ability in check?). I definitely think the time-travel angle is a red herring, albeit a good one to get people talking again.

IF that doesn't fly, I think the multiple dimensions theory still applies here. Especially with the recent revelation that Abrams wants to tackle The Dark Tower series. All these different outcomes in Desmond's life could be happening in parallel. For whatever reason(purple sky) he now has the ability to pass between the dimensions seeing many different outcomes. Hopping back and forth jumbles the memories. Sounds extremely complex, but should make sense to anyone who read the Dark Tower.

Has anyone looked up the name of that bottle of whiskey? Is it a legit brand or another clue?

Lot of stuff in that episode for me to think about... not sure what I can post on right now. But I'm glad to have these threads as a way of recapping the episode and picking up on little things I didn't notice the first time around.

I still tend to think the whole "time travel" aspect was just a dream... but that's just me.

I think we'll know more about whether it's a dream or actual time-travel later in the season. Especially if Charlie suddenly remembers Desmond confronting him while playing guitar.

I'm leaning towards time-travel because of him ending up nude in the jungle. Even Hugo said, "the explosion blew off your clothes?" The only other explanation is that someone on the island wants him to think that he travelled through time and removed his clothing. Although that's a bit weak.

I almost did, back in 1999.


That would cost money to buy and money to subscribe. Right now I get to watch HD OTA for free and the signal is not compressed like it would be for cable or satellite. And the HD receiver itself was free to me, a gift from a family member.

But I'm sure I will be doing the HD DVR when they incorporate HD DVD burning into the unit.

Chris

And here are the ratings for last nights episode.


I wouldn't be surprised if ABC moves it to 8 pm to get more viewers back.

Chris

Though it seems that most people here liked the episode last night, I think last nights episode was one year too late. It seems like they are running out of ideas and are now writing whatever comes to mind.



How many of the first seasons questions have been answered to this point? Not many. We have hardly seen any of the first seasons survivors this year and there is nothing really mysterious about 'The Others' anymore.


Chris

They still haven't answered the biggest question of the series...

Amen, brother

Come on, this is ABC / Disney!

Chris

This flashback was unique in that we experienced the events concurrently as Desmond did. It was also unique because it did not break from the flashback into the present until the end.

I'm going to guess that the woman was either his own mind trying to deal with his past choices, or Smokey in another new form. It is the only way to explain how one person knew everything about him while Charlie, his friend, and Penny don't know what is going on.

Also, look to the shoes! That was a Wizard of Oz reference with the red shoes coming out from under the ruble. Was the story in Wizard of Oz really happening?

Another thing that catches my eye is that he woke up in the past fully clothed but wakes up in the present naked. Wouldn't time travel indicate one or the either? I think the waking up naked was a plot device to show it wasn't real.

I had the same thought for several minutes - I thought it was Juliet.

Yes.

To be fair, I think this show has been on a steady decline since the last episode of the first season.

Chris

Still say this season has been a big improvement over most of season 2.

Damn did I hate the tailies shit.

The only question that they have said will be answered this season that I need to know is why Locke is in the wheelchair? Any other ones, I can wait for the answer.

A feeling that seems to reflect in the ratings. I still believe that the show will be moved to another time, and possibly another day of the week as it slowly moves toward cancellation.

I like Lost, but at some point the declining ratings along with production costs (didn't they consider moving to a soundstage because shooting in Hawaii was expensive) is going to mean something has to give.

In addition, I read an article (not long ago) that said ABC wanted to spend less movey on shows like Lost, and move towards cheaper programming (like the reality shows).

You're thinking of NBC (Deal Or No Deal, 1 vs 100, Identity)

That may be .. but I could have sworn Lost was mentioned in the article. I'll go back and look. But, still, high production costs and declining ratings never equate to a show surviving.

I've been trying to remember that, myself. Anyone??

What was it, McCutchen? I can't find anything about it.

It's not.

MacCutcheon.