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Jimmy James 01-19-07 11:44 AM

Nothing about Andy is supposed to be directly entertaining. He creates entertaining situations by giving the other characters something to bounce off of. He's also not at all over the top -- he's the workplace psycho, and the actor is pulling it off well.

Bill Needle 01-19-07 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by MWB
Haven't seen the long cut yet, but is the top down scene the reason why Michael looked so disheveled when he went to save Dwight? I was thinking there had to be some deleted scene which would have explained that. . .

There was a scene early on of Michael arriving at work and he couldn't get the top to go back up. Then, if you recall, in the background windows during the episode you could see snow falling, plus there was the conversation between Dwight and his coworker at Staples about how bad the roads were going to be on the drive home. When Michael is leaving the office to get Dwight, as he arrives at his car he (and we) see that it snowed about 6 to 8 inches that day. The disheveled look can certainly be inferred from the drive he took once he shoveled out his car.

Kal-El 01-19-07 11:45 AM

"Each file is password-protected with a different mythical creature." <-- I loved that bit. Classic Dwight!

Meglos 01-19-07 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
DING! DING! DING! Thank God somebody got this. Basically I see Ryan as a foil to Andy. He just wants to do his job and get the hell outta there each day, while Andy loves being there so much that he tries to extend the day into social activities with his co-worker AFTER work.

Oh, I get this fine. Like Ryan, I graduated from a temp position to a full time office job where I work now. And even though I'm not exactly happy in my job and it's not where I saw my life going, I don't act like I'm better than my position or my co-workers like he does (check his flip "Ask me ten years ago." line from last night).
I guess after running into too many "Ryans" at work, it gets kinda grating to see one on TV.

zekeburger1979 01-19-07 11:53 AM

In the extended producers cut:

Spoiler:

Oscar: "Company lease from the settlement."

Michael: "this company knows how to take care of its employees."



Talking Head: Oscar: "Part of me wishes that these people learned their lesson and shut the hell up and part of me wishes that they keep treating me like this because I could use a new home theater!" :D


Jason Bovberg 01-19-07 12:06 PM

The biggest laugh is in the Producer's Cut, involving Creed. Hilarious.

boredsilly 01-19-07 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by FunkDaddy J
The biggest laugh is in the Producer's Cut, involving Creed. Hilarious.

Does all that producers cut stuff make it onto the dvds? I haven't bought any yet, but I would assume so.

ytrez 01-19-07 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by jon-w9
"That question doesn't make any sense. Go ahead and get the copy paper then"

:lol:

Didn't he also end it with "it's your funeral"?

Ryan's "Why don't you ask me 10 years ago?" - I know I've worked with that kinda guy. That's the purpose he serves, to be that guy.

I thought the Karen/Jim convo came too quick. Jim & Pam pulled a prank and, unless I missed it, they didn't really have a "moment". Y'know, where their hands touched or an awkward glance that Karen should have reacted in that way to. Sure, they were comfortable with each other, buth they've known each other for years. I thought they acted like 2 old friends who were having a good time with their prank. No big deal.

cdollaz 01-19-07 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by shumway
Above all though, I would really love it if it turned out that he really didn't graduate from Cornell afterall and was only faking it to make himself look better.

Of course he went to Cornell. He was a member of Here Comes Treble.

Jadzia 01-19-07 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by ytrez
I thought the Karen/Jim convo came too quick. Jim & Pam pulled a prank and, unless I missed it, they didn't really have a "moment". Y'know, where their hands touched or an awkward glance that Karen should have reacted in that way to. Sure, they were comfortable with each other, buth they've known each other for years. I thought they acted like 2 old friends who were having a good time with their prank. No big deal.

When Jim passed Pam the cell phone, they were walking past Karen and she definitely noticed. The impression I got though was that she didn't know about the cell phone prank and just saw them touching hands on the sly and mistook that for something else.

zekeburger1979 01-19-07 12:23 PM

I just watched the entire producer's cut and I wish NBC would have aired it in it's entirety last night. Bump 30 Rock off and have super-sized episodes of MNIE, The Office and Scrubs! :)

shumway 01-19-07 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by rfduncan
But wasn't he also the guy who got drunk in the office with Jim and slept there that one time in Stanford?

Yes, that is very true as well. He got sloshed, slept there and made sure Jim was drunk as heck too. I think that may have just been his answer to the mundane task of inventory though, get trashed while Karen does the actual work. I could completely see some type of tradition like that starting w/ their old boss Josh.

Jason Bovberg 01-19-07 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by boredsilly
Does all that producers cut stuff make it onto the dvds? I haven't bought any yet, but I would assume so.

I would assume so, as well.

TheStoicPaisano 01-19-07 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Meglos
Oh, I get this fine. Like Ryan, I graduated from a temp position to a full time office job where I work now. And even though I'm not exactly happy in my job and it's not where I saw my life going, I don't act like I'm better than my position or my co-workers like he does (check his flip "Ask me ten years ago." line from last night).
I guess after running into too many "Ryans" at work, it gets kinda grating to see one on TV.

Ryan pisses me off because he apparently thinks having a Treo (where he has his excuses to get out of the Benihana trip) or going to b-school (numerous references) is going to further him in his career more than selling paper, which he utterly sucks at (from what we've seen).

redskull 01-19-07 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by boredsilly
Does all that producers cut stuff make it onto the dvds? I haven't bought any yet, but I would assume so.

Yes, in the form of deleted scenes. It would be nice to either have them integrated back into the episodes, or have an original/extended edition option for each ep.

Brent L 01-19-07 01:16 PM

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dick_grayson 01-19-07 01:16 PM

too much shilling for Staples. first the shredder (and ad for Staples) and now having Dwight work at Staples. I realize they're in a paper company and all that but it almost seems as if Staples has a hand in this. thoughts?

Jimmy James 01-19-07 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by zekeburger1979
I just watched the entire producer's cut and I wish NBC would have aired it in it's entirety last night. Bump 30 Rock off and have super-sized episodes of MNIE, The Office and Scrubs! :)

The problem with that is that 30 Rock is at this point either the funniest or second funniest of the shows. I couldn't support this at all. Now, if you wanted to air the 4 shows during the whole 3 hour prime time block with some extra content added in to make it work out, I can go for it.

Nausicaa 01-19-07 01:19 PM

On iTunes, all of the extended cut versions are available for purchase.

I thought this episode was hilarious. My favorite scene was probably Andy's snap and subsequent "That was an overreaction" comment. Everyone's reactions were hysterical. It reminded me of his other snap which we witnessed while he and Jim were still in Stamford and Andy's calculator ended up in jello.

lordwow 01-19-07 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by redskull
Yes, in the form of deleted scenes. It would be nice to either have them integrated back into the episodes, or have an original/extended edition option for each ep.

I'm just hoping they have a play all button for the extras this year.

fernsita 01-19-07 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Nausicaa
On iTunes, all of the extended cut versions are available for purchase.

I thought this episode was hilarious. My favorite scene was probably Andy's snap and subsequent "That was an overreaction" comment. Everyone's reactions were hysterical. It reminded me of his other snap which we witnessed while he and Jim were still in Stamford and Andy's calculator ended up in jello.

haha...mine too. "uh...that was an overreaction." haha

auntiewinnie 01-19-07 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by dick_grayson
too much shilling for Staples. first the shredder (and ad for Staples) and now having Dwight work at Staples. I realize they're in a paper company and all that but it almost seems as if Staples has a hand in this. thoughts?

Didn't bother me. Perhaps I've just gotten used to such product/company insertions in tv/movies. But did you find the Staples usage more overt than such others as Chili's, Benihana, Hooters, the video iPod, the Seabring, et cetera? Heck, you could even include having Creed Bratton sing one of his own songs on karaoke durring the Christmas show this year.

Plus in the ep last night having Dwigt end up at Staples after the montage of him going out on interviews was pretty funny.

Sex Fiend 01-19-07 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Nothing about Andy is supposed to be directly entertaining. He creates entertaining situations by giving the other characters something to bounce off of. He's also not at all over the top -- he's the workplace psycho, and the actor is pulling it off well.

Possibly, but we already have the characters of Michael and Dwight to create that dynamic. Andy is just plain overkill.

Michael Corvin 01-19-07 02:19 PM

^ Don't forget getting the Hammermill deal. That was pretty blatant as well.

Jimmy James 01-19-07 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Sex Fiend
Possibly, but we already have the characters of Michael and Dwight to create that dynamic. Andy is just plain overkill.

Andy turns the Michael/Dwight dynamic on its head, allowing Michael to be the guy recoiling in horror at how little self awareness somebody has and allowing Dwight to seem to Jim like a half-decent guy. Changing things up like this is how you keep a show from going stale. They can't go to Chili's 5 times a season.


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