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Jimmy James 08-20-06 10:50 PM

The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD. That has to hurt their subscriber base. The end of SitC and the way Chase jerked us all around in terms of delays for The Sopranos also shook up what they were doing with series. At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.

Josh-da-man 08-20-06 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD.

True.

Not only DVD, but rentals, Netflix, PPV...HBO and the other premium movie channels are really past their expiration date as far as first-run movies go. Combined with all of the exclusives deals the various premium channels have with the studios, and each channel's pool of new feature films is depleted. Nobody wants to pay $15 a month to play the same four goddamned movies over and over again.


At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.
Yep. The network shows have definitely improved over the past five or so years in addition to the basic cable channels like F/X (Nip/Tuck, The Shield) and SciFi (BSG).

Stuff like Sex and the City and The Sopranos just isn't as unique as it once was.

Depression 08-21-06 02:39 AM

How much did each episode of The Sopranos cost to produce?

dvd182 08-21-06 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD.

I agree if you are watching standard definition television, but HBO has been great for my high definition movie watching, especially since I don't feel like gambling on which HD home movie format wins. Again, the subscriber base for HD is obviously a ton smaller than standard def, but it's just a thought.

M2theAX 08-21-06 07:13 AM

Oz! We need more Oz! I loved the show, but was extremely upset with the finale. I think the show could be picked up again. I dont think Tom Fantana (sp?) has interest anymore though :(

bunkaroo 08-21-06 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by dvd182
I agree if you are watching standard definition television, but HBO has been great for my high definition movie watching, especially since I don't feel like gambling on which HD home movie format wins. Again, the subscriber base for HD is obviously a ton smaller than standard def, but it's just a thought.

Personally, my experience is HBO's HD content can't hold a cnadle to what comes through from HDnet. Now THAT's some beautiful HD. And a better selection too. I don't think you'll be seeing HD Clockwork Orange or Blade Runner on HBO anytime soon.

I liked Big Love and I felt it got stronger as the season went on. The Wire is a slow burn but once it gets you.....you can't get enough.

Deadwood....I'm still pissed and I won't be watching [paraphrasing] The Extremely Lame Fish Out Of Water Series[/paraphrasing] as a result.

I have high hopes for Alan Ball's new series.

SonOfAStu 08-21-06 08:07 AM

Unfortunately, HDNet isn't available to everyone. HBO is.

spainlinx0 08-21-06 08:13 AM

HBO HD is great if you want your movies cropped. Maybe if they took their movie showing more seriously people would view it as a viable option to watch these movies.

Chip718 08-21-06 08:25 AM

I read in an interview with Ian McShane that there even though Deadwod is ending there will be a couple of 2 hour movies to wrap everything up. Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

wildman1037 08-21-06 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Chip718
Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

This would be great news! Source? Link?

Dalvin 08-21-06 10:38 AM

Carnivale should have been picked up for a 3rd season. Still love the idea of a movie or two to help wrap things up.

I also think John from Cincinatti, which is a Drama about Southern California surfing is going to be huge!!

pinata242 08-21-06 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Chip718
Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

Unless they're doing it without Daniel Knauf (the creator), I don't see this happening. He's stated time and time again that he's not interested in trying to wrap up the remaining 67% of the story in a few hours.

Deftones 08-21-06 10:46 AM

If nothing else, reup the Wire for like another 20 years.....

Jadzia 08-21-06 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD. That has to hurt their subscriber base. The end of SitC and the way Chase jerked us all around in terms of delays for The Sopranos also shook up what they were doing with series. At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.

HBO's strength is that they don't have to comply with FCC rules. They ought to really play that up. I htink that is what they were trying to do with Lucky Louie, but it failed miserably. How about a drama show set in a modern-day whorehouse or something? Lots of sex and nudity.

DRG 08-21-06 11:28 AM

I thought Big Love was much more enjoyable than the past season of the Sopranos.

dvd182 08-21-06 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dalvin
I also think John from Cincinatti, which is a Drama about Southern California surfing is going to be huge!!

Is this sarcasm? I think the concept for this show is terrible... We lost Deadwood for this?

kvrdave 08-21-06 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by DRG
I thought Big Love was much more enjoyable than the past season of the Sopranos.


I agree.

Right now, I would love more quirky shows, but those seem to be on Showtime. I would love more Dead Like Me, and right now Weeds is one of the best shows on. I wonder if HBO could make a go with a scifi show?

majorjoe23 08-21-06 01:34 PM

I'd like to see HBO dip into some horror/sci-fi stuff. A series based off the great comics "Sleeper" or "The Walking Dead" would be awesome.

JayDerek 08-21-06 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I'd like to see HBO dip into some horror/sci-fi stuff. A series based off the great comics "Sleeper" or "The Walking Dead" would be awesome.

Along these same lines, i'd like to see HBO take a crack at DC/Vertigo's comic series 'Fables'

Deftones 08-21-06 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by majorjoe23
I'd like to see HBO dip into some horror/sci-fi stuff. A series based off the great comics "Sleeper" or "The Walking Dead" would be awesome.

Isn't Alan Ball's next project a Vampire one for HBO? I know HBO has some Vampire series in the works. Might not be Ball, though.

Chip718 08-21-06 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by wildman1037
This would be great news! Source? Link?

Right here

madara 08-21-06 04:39 PM

Yeah they need another Oz or sopranos to get me to subscribe again. I would like to see their take on something X-files like or scary with very likable characters and whole mystery and intrigue thing.

JasonF 08-21-06 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Deftones
Isn't Alan Ball's next project a Vampire one for HBO? I know HBO has some Vampire series in the works. Might not be Ball, though.

Apparently, Deftones doesn't read my posts.

JasonF 08-21-06 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by dvd182
Is this sarcasm? I think the concept for this show is terrible... We lost Deadwood for this?

The concept for John from Cincinnati doesn't sound any worse than the concept for Sux Feet Under, and that turned out to be a great show.

Tommy Ceez 08-21-06 09:25 PM

I agree with the sentiment that HBO will not be producing period pieces for a long time....but, with FX as cheap as they are today, they could put together a kick ass sci-fi series, maybe one more character driven


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