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DVDsAreMyLIFE 08-19-06 06:28 PM

What is HBO going to create next?
 
The end of most of their dramas, Sopranos has its final 7(?) episodes coming up this January, this is deadwoods last season (besides the planned 2 2-hour specials) and Rome has only one more season left, what is HBO going to do now? There any word on possible new hour long dramas coming up? I know they still have the wire and Entourage, and the new show Lucky Louie, but I hope they will continue to make epic dramas like sopranos and deadwood.

Personally I am hoping for a realistic pirate show. (no Johnny Depp comedy but real life rugged raping and pillaging pirates).

LordofWar 08-19-06 06:52 PM

I wish we could get more band of brothers. A pirate show is one I have not thought of. Thats sounds like it could be cool.

hiccup 08-19-06 06:59 PM

Hold up, Rome and Deadwood are ending next season? Where'd you guys read this? Links perhaps? And why so soon?

Still, my favorite show on HBO right now is Entourage. I think this show is as close to perfect as it gets. It's just so good. And after the first episode, I think Lucky Louie has picked up. I kind of like it. It's better than the crap sitcoms they usually try to push on us and is a thousand time more realistic in its portrayal of life.

dvd-4-life 08-19-06 07:01 PM

Maybe a show about people who are obsessed about DVDs.Look at the original posters name.

dvd-4-life 08-19-06 07:05 PM

I would like to see a horror series somewhere along the lines of the attempted Nightmare on Elm St. tv series either that or something like Friday the 13th tv series.

dvd-4-life 08-19-06 07:23 PM

I would also like to see a tv series based on the movie Scanners.You could call it Scanners-25 yrs Later and bring back Mike Ironside and Jennifer O'Neal(still hot after all these years).

DJariya 08-19-06 08:15 PM

Alot of the shows that HBO produces are really expensive. Deadwood costs over $5M an episode. Producing The Wire in Baltimore has got to be really expensive as well. So, I think they are going to be really selective on what projects they decide to take on, especially since they are a subscriber based channel with zero ad money coming.

DJariya 08-19-06 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by hiccup
Hold up, Rome and Deadwood are ending next season? Where'd you guys read this? Links perhaps? And why so soon?

Still, my favorite show on HBO right now is Entourage. I think this show is as close to perfect as it gets. It's just so good. And after the first episode, I think Lucky Louie has picked up. I kind of like it. It's better than the crap sitcoms they usually try to push on us and is a thousand time more realistic in its portrayal of life.

Rome is ending after next season (10 episodes) Considering Season 1 costed over $100M to produce, we are lucky to get a Season 2. Tv Guide.com reported this last week.

I'm surprised you haven't read about Deadwood. HBO and David Milch agreed to produce two 2 hour movies to wrap up the series. There was a thread about this several months ago.

pinata242 08-19-06 08:30 PM

Cancel everything and bring back Carnivale and I'd be happy.

DVDsAreMyLIFE 08-19-06 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by pinata242
Cancel everything and bring back Carnivale and I'd be happy.


Eh, that was my least favorite, they shouldn't have made Sopranos Season 6 and made 2 more seasons of Rome.

NitroJMS 08-19-06 09:56 PM

They still have the only show I watch on their network:

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JasonF 08-19-06 10:05 PM

Alan (Six Feet Under) Ball is developing a series based on Charlaine Harris' Southern Vampire series of books. Link

David (Deadwood) Milch is developing a show called "John From Cincinnati" based on the works of Kem Nunn (Nunn is also involved in developing the show). The show has been described as "surf noir." Link

Big Love is still around, and the Wire will probably go to a fifth season (the fourth season starts in a few weeks).

DVDsAreMyLIFE 08-19-06 10:44 PM

Thought Big love bombed?

aktick 08-19-06 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by DVDsAreMyLIFE
Thought Big love bombed?

I'm not sure how it did ratings-wise, but I enjoyed it much more than Sopranos.

Charlie Goose 08-19-06 11:15 PM

Although I'm not a fan of every HBO show created in the last few years, I recognize the quality of each one. That faith was severely shakened with the stillborn Lucky Louie.

Josh-da-man 08-19-06 11:28 PM

"Big Love" and "The Wire" are probably a lot cheaper to produce than period/genre shows like "Rome," "Deadwood," and "Carnivale," since they don't require special sets, props, and costumes.

I would expect that we'll be seeing more shows that HBO can produce on the cheap, and less period and genre projects.

DVDsAreMyLIFE 08-19-06 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
"Big Love" and "The Wire" are probably a lot cheaper to produce than period/genre shows like "Rome," "Deadwood," and "Carnivale," since they don't require special sets, props, and costumes.

I would expect that we'll be seeing more shows that HBO can produce on the cheap, and less period and genre projects.


I hope not, thats why HBO was so great.

indianajdp 08-20-06 07:56 AM

I thought I had heard/read somewhere that a Pacific Theatre version of Band of Brothers was in the works?

aktick 08-20-06 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by indianajdp
I thought I had heard/read somewhere that a Pacific Theatre version of Band of Brothers was in the works?

Yeah, it's called "The Pacific War," but I'm having a hard time finding any news on it from the past year or so. :confused:

The Bus 08-20-06 09:30 AM

I just want some kind of wrap-up to Mind of the Married Man.

Bill Needle 08-20-06 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Charlie Goose
Although I'm not a fan of every HBO show created in the last few years, I recognize the quality of each one. That faith was severely shakened with the stillborn Lucky Louie.

I agree. Their last two efforts - Big Love and Lucky Louie - are horrifically bad compared to their otherwise nearly flawless string of great shows. I am definitely hoping they pull off "The Pacific War," which last I heard was tentative for 2009.

mdc3000 08-20-06 12:10 PM

Sure Lucky Louie is extremely hit and miss, but Big Love is one of the best HBO shows still in production IMO. It started off slow, but the writing and acting are top notch, and it was definitely more satisfying than this past season of The Sopranos. I think their only missteps of late are Carnivale which I couldn't get into and LL, which I still enjoy moments of (overall, it's pretty brutal though). Hopefully they'll have some more great stuff up their sleeve...looking forward to the new Milch show for sure.

MATT

thebunk 08-20-06 12:25 PM

Big Love was very good! It borrowed a little too much from Desperate Housewives at the start but it hit its stride by mid-season.

Shannon Nutt 08-20-06 01:17 PM

Yeah, we'll probably see more series along the lines of "Big Love". I'm guessing about 80% of that show is shot on a studio lot (the home and backyard is so obviously a studio set it almost takes away from the "realism"). I think it's obvious HBO doesn't have the cash flow to invest in "big" (i.e. expensive) series anymore...at least for now.

Of course, that doesn't mean the shows won't be enjoyable...after a horrible pilot and a slow start, "Big Love" became quite entertaining.

andicus 08-20-06 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by The Bus
I just want some kind of wrap-up to Mind of the Married Man.

Yeah, that pissed me off too! I've forgotten the exact details of the cliffhanger ending for season 2 now, but if it gets released on DVD, I'm sure I'll be pissed of about it again.

Ditto for Carnivale!

Jimmy James 08-20-06 10:50 PM

The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD. That has to hurt their subscriber base. The end of SitC and the way Chase jerked us all around in terms of delays for The Sopranos also shook up what they were doing with series. At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.

Josh-da-man 08-20-06 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD.

True.

Not only DVD, but rentals, Netflix, PPV...HBO and the other premium movie channels are really past their expiration date as far as first-run movies go. Combined with all of the exclusives deals the various premium channels have with the studios, and each channel's pool of new feature films is depleted. Nobody wants to pay $15 a month to play the same four goddamned movies over and over again.


At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.
Yep. The network shows have definitely improved over the past five or so years in addition to the basic cable channels like F/X (Nip/Tuck, The Shield) and SciFi (BSG).

Stuff like Sex and the City and The Sopranos just isn't as unique as it once was.

Depression 08-21-06 02:39 AM

How much did each episode of The Sopranos cost to produce?

dvd182 08-21-06 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD.

I agree if you are watching standard definition television, but HBO has been great for my high definition movie watching, especially since I don't feel like gambling on which HD home movie format wins. Again, the subscriber base for HD is obviously a ton smaller than standard def, but it's just a thought.

M2theAX 08-21-06 07:13 AM

Oz! We need more Oz! I loved the show, but was extremely upset with the finale. I think the show could be picked up again. I dont think Tom Fantana (sp?) has interest anymore though :(

bunkaroo 08-21-06 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by dvd182
I agree if you are watching standard definition television, but HBO has been great for my high definition movie watching, especially since I don't feel like gambling on which HD home movie format wins. Again, the subscriber base for HD is obviously a ton smaller than standard def, but it's just a thought.

Personally, my experience is HBO's HD content can't hold a cnadle to what comes through from HDnet. Now THAT's some beautiful HD. And a better selection too. I don't think you'll be seeing HD Clockwork Orange or Blade Runner on HBO anytime soon.

I liked Big Love and I felt it got stronger as the season went on. The Wire is a slow burn but once it gets you.....you can't get enough.

Deadwood....I'm still pissed and I won't be watching [paraphrasing] The Extremely Lame Fish Out Of Water Series[/paraphrasing] as a result.

I have high hopes for Alan Ball's new series.

SonOfAStu 08-21-06 08:07 AM

Unfortunately, HDNet isn't available to everyone. HBO is.

spainlinx0 08-21-06 08:13 AM

HBO HD is great if you want your movies cropped. Maybe if they took their movie showing more seriously people would view it as a viable option to watch these movies.

Chip718 08-21-06 08:25 AM

I read in an interview with Ian McShane that there even though Deadwod is ending there will be a couple of 2 hour movies to wrap everything up. Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

wildman1037 08-21-06 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Chip718
Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

This would be great news! Source? Link?

Dalvin 08-21-06 10:38 AM

Carnivale should have been picked up for a 3rd season. Still love the idea of a movie or two to help wrap things up.

I also think John from Cincinatti, which is a Drama about Southern California surfing is going to be huge!!

pinata242 08-21-06 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Chip718
Also, HBO is planning at least one Carnivale movie.

Unless they're doing it without Daniel Knauf (the creator), I don't see this happening. He's stated time and time again that he's not interested in trying to wrap up the remaining 67% of the story in a few hours.

Deftones 08-21-06 10:46 AM

If nothing else, reup the Wire for like another 20 years.....

Jadzia 08-21-06 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jimmy James
The problem if you ask me is that nobody needs HBO any more for movies in this age of DVD. That has to hurt their subscriber base. The end of SitC and the way Chase jerked us all around in terms of delays for The Sopranos also shook up what they were doing with series. At around that same time, the likes of the FX series, 24, and LOST hit and really took the wind out of their sails.

HBO's strength is that they don't have to comply with FCC rules. They ought to really play that up. I htink that is what they were trying to do with Lucky Louie, but it failed miserably. How about a drama show set in a modern-day whorehouse or something? Lots of sex and nudity.

DRG 08-21-06 11:28 AM

I thought Big Love was much more enjoyable than the past season of the Sopranos.


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