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Setzer 05-24-06 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by twikoff
funny you should say that
kat is best watched with the sound turned off
where she can have moments that are pretty good.. she can have just as many that are completely terrible and painful to listen to.. fun to look at, but as you mentioned, its a singing contest.

Agreed! When Kat sings I just tune her out and look at the eye candy. :D

Taylor better win this because Kat needs to do Playboy!!!! :D :D :D :banana:

mike7162 05-24-06 04:58 AM

Anybody find Kat's mom a little milf-y?
Taylor killed on his first song, was ok on the second, and had nothing to work with on the last one.
Kat was good on the first, ok on the second, and was hysterically out of tune on the last song.
Taylor by a nose.

moocher 05-24-06 06:18 AM

I dont buy that Taylor is "not marketable". He has probably created more excitement as a contestant than any on AI with the possible exceptions of Clay Aiken and Kelly Clarkson. He has a better voice than people give him credit for. He can sing and people love his showmanship (amateurish as is it) as well. Michael McDonald and Joe Cocker became household names. Taylor Hicks is already a household name. He will sell a lot of CDs - one of them to me.

Taylor has a unique sound that I think AI needed. Kat would have been the "typical" AI winner but she has not been as popular as past winners (almost getting booted twice). I think she may end up being another disapointment like Diana Degarmo. And for the one saying all she needs is a voice coach, she has had one all her life. Her Mom is one.

twikoff 05-24-06 06:25 AM

dialidol spoiler
Spoiler:
wow.. if the dialidol numbers are anywhere near correct, the vote wasnt even close! which is how it should have been anyways

Tommy Ceez 05-24-06 06:37 AM

Are they doing the whole 'AI top 12 sing with established artists' tonight like they did last year?

Would be cool to see Chris sing with a band that might actually hire him.


BTW, can someone tell Daniel Powder that he can start playing now? rotfl

Taylor in a landslide BUT since the AI phone lines are ALWAYS maxed out, the winner will be the person who's fans hang up quicker

twikoff 05-24-06 06:41 AM

my dialidol results from lastnight
Spoiler:
as i mentioned.. i got started 20 minutes late.. had it trying all 3 numbers for taylor.. 1126 attempts.. 13 successfuly... 1113 busy signals

SMB-IL 05-24-06 07:21 AM

According to the Miami Herald, tonight's 2-hour finale will feature:
Spoiler:
....rumored pairings of Meat Loaf with Katharine, Toni Braxton with Taylor, the return of this season's Idols, an appearance by season 2 runner-up Clay Aiken, and Chris teaming with Live for I Walk the Line.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...p/14652776.htm

atlantamoi 05-24-06 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Kal-El
Is it me or was the Taylor song just a rip-off of Aerosmith's "I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing"?

Sounded like that to me as well. I paused the show and told my wife that it's interesting how a bad song can sound so much better when sung by an interesting singer and specifically mentioned this song. I'm not much of a post-80's Aerosmith fan, but had someone else got ahold of "Don't Wanna..." it would have sounded much worse. Same with Taylor.

If Taylor is not marketable then I guess the history of rock and roll needs to be rewritten.

Gil Jawetz 05-24-06 08:02 AM

Great. Four songs they already did and two dreadful, dreadful "new" songs. That's a final performance show? I think I scanned through it in about 10 minutes. They should have picked three songs each from the season that other people sang. Or something. But that was like watching a rerun.

raven56706 05-24-06 08:48 AM

Kat Mcphee + final dress = :drool:

Jadzia 05-24-06 09:08 AM

Taylor will be successful for the same reason the PT Cruiser was successful-- it's old but it's new.

SleepyW 05-24-06 09:12 AM

While Kat did butcher her last song, my point is that it wasn't tailored for her vocals/abilities at all. You can't make someone sing a song that their voice physically cannot do (constant pitch changes, etc.). Whoever wrote that song or decided to use for her should be fired.

Same with Taylor's song - the first half of it was unbearable to listen to, but it was still within his vocal range.

Taylor will win, but it really should have been Elliott up there winning. I think he had the best vocals of the remaining 3. Too bad. If Taylor sells albums, I think it will mostly be because of the hype he's received from the show. But look at Bo Bice - he was hyped liked crazy, but his sales are not doing so well because the end product just doesn't live up to the build-up.

Sweet Baby James 05-24-06 09:14 AM

If you really want to see how "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" should really be sung, check out this video clip of a guy name Shayne Ward. He performed it on a show called "Xfactor" and he makes Kat and all of the other AI finalists seem like jokes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzN_1gYimbc&

Kat's lucky that Simon didn't mention this guy in comparison to her performance.:)

Groucho 05-24-06 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by SMB-IL
According to the Miami Herald, tonight's 2-hour finale will feature:
Spoiler:
....rumored pairings of Meat Loaf with Katharine

Spoiler:
Here's hoping for the full version of "Paradise by the Dashboard Light"

TheAllPurposeNothing 05-24-06 09:16 AM

Kat's main problem lies not with the song choice or her voice. Its just that she doesn't really know how to sing.

Sure, she can hit notes (most of the time) but she seems entirely incapable of actually communicating any real emotion or feeling through her singing. That's the reason I agreed with twikoff regarding her "Over the Rainbow." Somehow, she hits the notes but somehow never really communicates that sense of longing that is inherent in the song. Miss that and the song becomes boring.

Taylor is actually pretty good though he often tries a little too hard (Levon is not the kind of song you riff on). But I knew it was wrapped up last night during his last song. He did something, which I find hard to articulate, but in the repetition of a line of the song found the heart of the song. He knows where the heart of the song lies, no matter how crappy it may be, and can find his way there. Its like that moment in Squeeze's "Tempted" where Paul Carrack sort of grunts. At that moment, he perfectly pinpoints the frustration in the song and its what ultimately sells it. Is Taylor always exciting? No. But can he sing? Yes.

DRG 05-24-06 09:20 AM

What a disappointing show. Four repeated songs?

And those originals? Garbage. I know the Idol originals are usually syrupy crap, but these were the worst yet. Katherine got screwed here big time, as Taylor's song at least have a singable chorus. Kat's chorus was so overloaded with lyrics you could barely sing a melody out of it. They might as well had her sing "It's the End of the World As We Know It" or "One Week". She was already a huge underdog, giving her this song was just kicking her when she's down.

At least the judges had the balls to admit the songs were crap. But this leads me to believe they have no input on that matter. Maybe that should change in the future, because while their judgment isn't always perfect it seems to be better than that of the producers'.

General Zod 05-24-06 09:21 AM

I like both singers. I've been a big fan of Kat from the beginning but i've got to accept the fact that Taylor is just a better talent overall. Taylor has music in his soul and it comes out in his songs and I don't get that when I listen to Kat. Congrats to Taylor, he's the right choice.

Heat 05-24-06 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by twikoff
my dialidol results from lastnight
Spoiler:
as i mentioned.. i got started 20 minutes late.. had it trying all 3 numbers for taylor.. 1126 attempts.. 13 successfuly... 1113 busy signals

May be something with where you live. I finally broke down and decided to vote - I put in ten votes for Taylor Hicks. Dialed maybe 25 or 30 times. This was about 3 and a half hours into the four hour voting session, so maybe others had stopped voting.

dialidol:
Spoiler:
The voting wasn't even close (Taylor wins, of course).

I kind of miss having the suspense of the elimination show.

whoopdido 05-24-06 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by moocher
And for the one saying all she needs is a voice coach, she has had one all her life. Her Mom is one.

I meant a professional. A real professional.

DRG 05-24-06 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Sweet Baby James
If you really want to see how "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" should really be sung, check out this video clip of a guy name Shayne Ward. He performed it on a show called "Xfactor" and he makes Kat and all of the other AI finalists seem like jokes.

I watched that whole season of X-Factor and he excelled at a lot of songs that Idol contestants attempted this season. His version of "If You're Not the One" blew Ace's out of the water.

das Monkey 05-24-06 09:42 AM


Sweet Baby James

If you really want to see how "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" should really be sung, check out this video clip of a guy name Shayne Ward. He performed it on a show called "Xfactor" and he makes Kat and all of the other AI finalists seem like jokes.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzN_1gYimbc&

Kat's lucky that Simon didn't mention this guy in comparison to her performance.:)

People actually like that type of performance? Shayne is vocally very talented, but no one should ever sing "Over the Rainbow" like that. Ever.

das

GuessWho 05-24-06 09:59 AM

Singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is nothing new on TV talent shows.

In the mid 1980s, a guy named Sam Harris won multiple weeks of "Star Search" -- mostly because he wowed people with his rendition of the song -- and that popularity carried him for several weeks (even when he wasn't singing it anymore)

Sweet Baby James 05-24-06 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by GuessWho
Singing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" is nothing new on TV talent shows.

In the mid 1980s, a guy named Sam Harris won multiple weeks of "Star Search" -- mostly because he wowed people with his rendition of the song -- and that popularity carried him for several weeks (even when he wasn't singing it anymore)

Sam actually won SS and he sung it yet again in the finals to seal the victory.:)

Big Quasimodo 05-24-06 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by das Monkey
People actually like that type of performance? Shayne is vocally very talented, but no one should ever sing "Over the Rainbow" like that. Ever.

das

Yack!

Patman 05-24-06 10:46 AM

It's weird, but Simon dresses better on the "X-Factor".


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