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Old 04-16-07 | 11:31 PM
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As much as I enjoy NBC's comedies, the network may need to rethink the way they are making sitcoms. Their comedies may have generally high quality, but they just aren't attracting viewers. Perhaps the shows are a little too hip for their own good.
Sadly the NBC comedies fall under the 'Ahead of its time' category.
For some reason people don't like to watch sitcoms that don't have a live studio audience or a laugh track.
A show like Scrubs will probally become a bigger hit once its off the air and as it goes into syndication more & more it will probally gain a bigger audience.
the reason ER has had its lowest ratings ever is because James Woods is a big star & ER isn't the great show it used to be. It's still good but without any real big star to lead the show it isn't going to attract as big of an audience.
They should just bring George Clooney back. NBC would be broke but at least ER would be the #1 show on thursdays.

Nice to see Cold Case get back to its normal ratings, last week they only got 8 million this week they are back up to 12 which is nice to see.

Whats happening to the viewers for the amazing race?
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Top Shows by Viewers
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (8-9:30) (ABC) 18.60m
2. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.18m
3. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 12.98m
4. “The King of Queens” (CBS) 12.29m
5. “24” (FOX) 11.15m

6. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 11.01m
7. “The Bachelor: An Officer and a Gentleman” (9:30-11) (ABC) 9.26m
8. “The New Adventures of Old Christine” (CBS) 7.06m
9. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 6.94m
10. “How I Met Your Mother” (R) (CBS) 6.60m
11. “Dateline Special: Virginia Tech Tragedy” (NBC) 6.44m
12. “Drive” (FOX) 5.64m
13. “The Game” (R) (CW) 2.07m
14. “Girlfriends” (R) (CW) 1.95m
15. “Everybody Hates Chris” (R) (CW) 1.93m
16. “All of Us” (R) (CW) 1.72m

8:00-9:00
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 18.16m
2. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 11.01m
3. “How I Met Your Mother” (R) / “New Adv. of Old Christine” (CBS) 6.83m
4. “Drive” (FOX) 5.64m
5. “Everybody Hates Chris” (R) / “All of Us” (R) (CW) 1.83m

9:00-10:00
1. “Dancing with the Stars” / “The Bachelor” (ABC) 15.09m
2. “Two and a Half Men” / “The King of Queens” (CBS) 12.64m
3. “24” (FOX) 11.15m

4. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 6.94m
5. “Girlfriends” (R) / “The Game” (R) (CW) 2.01m

10:00-11:00
1. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 15.18m
2. “The Bachelor: An Officer and a Gentleman” (ABC) 8.62m
3. “Dateline Special: Virginia Tech Tragedy” (NBC) 6.44m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “Dancing with the Stars” (8-9:30) (ABC) 4.9/13
2. “CSI: Miami” (CBS) 4.7/13
3. “The King of Queens” (CBS) 4.5/11
4. “Two and a Half Men” (CBS) 4.4/11
5. “24” (FOX) 4.3/10

6. “The Bachelor: An Officer and a Gentleman” (9:30-11) (ABC) 3.5/9
7. “Deal or No Deal” (NBC) 3.3/9
8. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 2.9/7
9. “The New Adventures of Old Christine” (CBS) 2.6/7
10. “How I Met Your Mother” (R) (CBS) 2.3/7
11. “Drive” (FOX) 2.3/6
12. “Dateline Special: Virginia Tech Tragedy” (NBC) 2.0/6
13. “Girlfriends” (R) (CW) 0.9/2
14. “The Game” (R) (CW) 0.8/2
15. “Everybody Hates Chris” (R) (CW) 0.7/2
16. “All of Us” (R) (CW) 0.7/2


WINNERS
CSI: Miami (CBS), Dancing with the Stars (ABC), Two and a Half Men (CBS), The Kind of Queens (CBS), 24 (FOX)

LOSERS
The Bachelor (ABC), Drive (FOX)

HONORABLE MENTION
Deal or No Deal (NBC)

DISHONORABLE MENTION
Thank God You're Here (NBC)
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Old 04-17-07 | 12:01 PM
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Drive (FOX)
Looks like it's gonna be another 13 episode "Complete Series" DVD set for Tim Minear...
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Old 04-17-07 | 12:07 PM
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5.64 million for Drive? Unfortunately, I don't see it lasting more than 1 more episode (at least on Mondays). if it doesn't greatly improve next week, it'll probably be gone (or banished to Friday nights for the last couple episodes). Not exactly surprising, but disappointing since I've enjoyed it more than I expected.
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Old 04-17-07 | 01:08 PM
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Since it was the lowest rated series in primetime (the CW network doesn't count as a player), I can't see how Drive WON'T be banished to Friday nights... Not unless Fox is in love with the series (like NBC is with Friday Night Lights) and will give it time, but I don't see that happening.
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Old 04-17-07 | 01:50 PM
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Considering Drive is a serial drama, there is no way in hell the ratings will get any better next week or any week after that. It's very disappointing to see Tim Minear suffer through another low rated show.

I asked a co-worker of mine if he was interested in watching Drive and he said no mainly because he watches alot of TV already and picking up another show so late in the season is overkill. Maybe middle American, who actually has a Nielsen box, has the same theory.
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Old 04-17-07 | 05:12 PM
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Sadly the NBC comedies fall under the 'Ahead of its time' category.
For some reason people don't like to watch sitcoms that don't have a live studio audience or a laugh track.
A show like Scrubs will probally become a bigger hit once its off the air and as it goes into syndication more & more it will probally gain a bigger audience.
the reason ER has had its lowest ratings ever is because James Woods is a big star & ER isn't the great show it used to be. It's still good but without any real big star to lead the show it isn't going to attract as big of an audience.
They should just bring George Clooney back. NBC would be broke but at least ER would be the #1 show on thursdays.

Nice to see Cold Case get back to its normal ratings, last week they only got 8 million this week they are back up to 12 which is nice to see.

Whats happening to the viewers for the amazing race?
You sure stayed away a long time...
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Old 04-17-07 | 11:14 PM
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Considering Drive is a serial drama, there is no way in hell the ratings will get any better next week or any week after that.
There's a slight chance the ratings could improve since all 3 episodes are posted on the myspace.com/fox site. If people hear good word-of-mouth about the show they could catch up online, but I'm not expecting it. I still say 1 more episode and that's it.
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Old 04-17-07 | 11:53 PM
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You sure stayed away a long time...
Am i doing the day by day reviews? NO! so how about you lay off and either post something that has to do with the primetime TV ratings instead of whining & complaining at no end at me about every post i make here.

4. “The King of Queens” (CBS) 12.29m
Nice to see the King of Queens gain even more viewers this week, I wonder what the ratings will be like for the 2-part series finale?
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Old 04-18-07 | 12:16 AM
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There's a slight chance the ratings could improve since all 3 episodes are posted on the myspace.com/fox site. If people hear good word-of-mouth about the show they could catch up online, but I'm not expecting it. I still say 1 more episode and that's it.
Yeah, posting episodes online for Andy Barker did wonders for NBC...

Yeah, I know NBC.com isn't myspace, but I cannot see that helping the ratings enough to keep it going.
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Old 04-18-07 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nateman241
Am i doing the day by day reviews? NO! so how about you lay off and either post something that has to do with the primetime TV ratings instead of whining & complaining at no end at me about every post i make here.
Ok. I think it's fucking awesome that Dancing With the Stars got better ratings than any show you like. Happy?

By the way- for the record, I have made three comments towards you. This is in god knows how long of seeing your typed diarrhea day in and day out, where you essentially do nothing but whine yourself. I would hardly consider that "whining & complaining at no end" about every post you make.

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Old 04-18-07 | 02:17 AM
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5.64 million for Drive? Unfortunately, I don't see it lasting more than 1 more episode (at least on Mondays). if it doesn't greatly improve next week, it'll probably be gone (or banished to Friday nights for the last couple episodes). Not exactly surprising, but disappointing since I've enjoyed it more than I expected.
I'm pretty sure FOX will run the entire series, atleast via a summer burnoff because 5.65 isn't horrible for the, but it isn't "second season" material either (look at season three of THE OC, wasn't its average in the high 5 millions?)
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Old 04-18-07 | 03:18 AM
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Ok. I think it's fucking awesome that Dancing With the Stars got better ratings than any show you like. Happy?

By the way- for the record, I have made three comments towards you. This is in god knows how long of seeing your typed diarrhea day in and day out, where you essentially do nothing but whine yourself. I would hardly consider that "whining & complaining at no end" about every post you make.
you know i admit that i did complain alot about shows that i don't like but i don't that much anymore & i choose just not to talk about it.
At least i actually was talking about the primetime tv ratings insteed of just coming in here and giving people shit.
I have stopped the daily reviews becuase I'm sick of the whining and i don't bash shows anymore, i was just stating a fairly normal post and i see no problem in it.
calling my posts diarrhea is uncalled for and if you don't like my post fine. It's simple if you don't like my posts don't read them!
I don't go around calling peoples posts diarrhea, If i don't agree with there opinions fine but im not going to complain at them.
Either post something that has to do with the subject or don't post here.
This is the last thing I'm going to say to you regarding this because i like to stay On Topic.

Sorry for going Off Topic.
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Old 04-18-07 | 08:05 AM
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Nice to see the King of Queens gain even more viewers this week, I wonder what the ratings will be like for the 2-part series finale?
It actually lost over a million viewers from last week.
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Old 04-18-07 | 08:20 AM
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It actually lost over a million viewers from last week.
oops sorry.
I was annoyed at the time.
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Ok. I think it's fucking awesome that Dancing With the Stars got better ratings than any show you like. Happy?

By the way- for the record, I have made three comments towards you. This is in god knows how long of seeing your typed diarrhea day in and day out, where you essentially do nothing but whine yourself. I would hardly consider that "whining & complaining at no end" about every post you make.

How about adding him to your ignore list or skipping over his posts rather than bringing the thread down trying to run him out of here? And yes, I could put you on my ignore list as well, but you're starting shit that is carrying over to several other posters.
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Old 04-18-07 | 11:17 AM
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oops sorry.
I was annoyed at the time.
I'm just glad that CBS is actually giving King of Queens some respect by airing the final episodes in a good timeslot. It should have been airing on Mondays all along.
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I'm just glad that CBS is actually giving King of Queens some respect by airing the final episodes in a good timeslot. It should have been airing on Mondays all along.
Agreed,
Its nice that they are airing the final episodes after two & a half men. CBS has given alot of shows this year disrespect like 'Close to home' which does great for CBS in its respective timeslot but just because its not #1 show in the demo that CBS wants it in they want to cancel the show.
Lets hope the ratings stay strong for the king of Queens over the next 4 weeks and when the 2 part series finale ('China Syndrome 1 & 2') comes may. 14 they will get strong season finale ratings to put a great show to an end.
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I like King of Queens, but that last episode was pretty weak...hopefully they are better the rest of the way.
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Old 04-18-07 | 02:42 PM
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NBC's downward spiral ...

From Studio Briefing (04.18.2007)

NBC's ratings last week were its worst during a regular season since Nielsen's "people meters" were introduced 20 years ago -- and may have been the network's worst ever. Not a single NBC show was listed in the top 20, and only two, the Monday edition of Deal or No Deal and the once unbeatable E.R., made it into the top 30. ("You know things are bad at NBC when Howie Mandel is the main attraction," TV columnist John Maynard wrote today in the Washington Post.) Fox held on again to the top two positions on the Nielsen list with its two editions of American Idol, but it was also hit by a two-hour ratings misfortune on Sunday night with the premiere of Drive, which attracted only 6 million viewers. CBS once again emerged as the highest-rated network of the week with an average 7.3 rating and a 12 share. Fox placed second with a 6.2/10, edging out ABC, which rook third with a 6.1/10. NBC was far behind with an average 4.5/8. Among the nightly newscasts, ABC's World News With Charles Gibson increased its lead slightly as it averaged a 6.0 rating and a 12 share. NBC Nightly News With Brian Williams placed second with a 5.7/12, while the CBS Evening News With Katie Couric continued to shed viewers, posting a 4.6/9.
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I like King of Queens, but that last episode was pretty weak...hopefully they are better the rest of the way.
I agree, one of the worst episodes.
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Tuesday - 04/17
Top Shows by Viewers
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 25.86m
2. “House” (FOX) 22.57m
3. “Dancing with the Stars” (9-10) (ABC) 16.17m

4. “Primetime: Virginia Tech Tragedy Special” (ABC) 11.34m
5. “NCIS” (R) (CBS) 11.15m
6. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 8.32m
7. “The Unit” (R) (CBS) 7.32m
8. “Dancing with the Stars” (R) (8-9) (ABC) 6.89m
9. “48 Hours Mystery: Virginia Tech Special” (CBS) 6.49m
10. “Law & Order: Criminal Intent” (R) (NBC) 5.51m
11. “Dateline: Virginia Tech Special” (NBC) 5.08m
12. “Gilmore Girls” (CW) 3.83m
13. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 3.00m

8:00-9:00
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 25.86m
2. “NCIS” (R) (CBS) 11.15m
3. “Dancing with the Stars” (R) (ABC) 6.89m
4. “Dateline: Virginia Tech Special” (NBC) 5.08m
5. “Gilmore Girls” (CW) 3.83m

9:00-10:00
1. “House” (FOX) 22.57m
2. “Dancing with the Stars” (ABC) 16.17m

3. “The Unit” (R) (CBS) 7.32m
4. “Law & Order: Criminal Intent” (R) (NBC) 5.51m
5. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 3.00m

10:00-11:00
1. “Primetime: Virginia Tech Tragedy Special” (ABC) 11.34m
2. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 8.32m
3. “48 Hours Mystery: Virginia Tech Special” (CBS) 6.49m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 9.9/27
2. “House” (FOX) 9.1/22
3. “Dancing with the Stars” (9-10) (ABC) 4.1/10

4. “Primetime: Virginia Tech Tragedy Special” (ABC) 3.6/10
5. “NCIS” (R) (CBS) 2.5/7
6. “Law & Order: SVU” (R) (NBC) 2.3/7
7. “48 Hours Mystery: Virginia Tech Special” (CBS) 2.2/6
8. “The Unit” (R) (CBS) 2.1/5
9. “Dancing with the Stars” (R) (8-9) (ABC) 1.8/5
10. “Gilmore Girls” (CW) 1.7/5
11. “Dateline: Virginia Tech Special” (NBC) 1.6/5
12. “Law & Order: Criminal Intent” (R) (NBC) 1.5/4
13. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 1.5/4
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Is it me, or does it seem that House is keeping more and more of Idol's lead in?
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Yeah, House only dropped 10k in the 9:30 half-hour and actually rose in the 18-49 demo.
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Top Shows by Viewers
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 28.18m
2. “Lost” (10-11) (ABC) 11.75m
3. “CSI: NY” (R) (CBS) 11.05m

4. “Criminal Minds” (R) (CBS) 10.48m
5. “Bones” (R) (FOX) 7.91m
6. “Jericho” (CBS) 7.78m
7. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 7.17m
8. “Crossing Jordan” (NBC) 6.85m
9. “According to Jim” (ABC) 6.69m
10. “Notes from the Underbelly” (ABC) 6.57m
11. “Medium” (R) (NBC) 5.96m
12. “America’s Next Top Mode” (CW) 5.19m
13. “Lost” (R) (9-10) (ABC) 3.98m
14. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 3.07m

8:00-9:00
1. “Bones” (R) (FOX) 7.91m
2. “Jericho” (CBS) 7.78m
3. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 7.17m
4. “According to Jim” / “Notes from the Underbelly” (ABC) 6.63m
5. “America’s Next Top Mode” (CW) 5.19m

9:00-10:00
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 28.18m
2. “Criminal Minds” (R) (CBS) 10.48m
3. “Crossing Jordan” (NBC) 6.85m
4. “Lost” (R) (ABC) 3.98m
5. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 3.07m

10:00-11:00
1. “Lost” (10-11) (ABC) 11.75m
2. “CSI: NY” (R) (CBS) 11.05m

3. “Medium” (R) (NBC) 5.96m

Shows by 18-49 Demo
1. “American Idol” (FOX) 10.9/27
2. “Lost” (10-11) (ABC) 5.1/13

3. “CSI: NY” (R) (CBS) 3.2/8
4. “Criminal Minds” (R) (CBS) 2.9/7
5. “Thank God You’re Here” (NBC) 2.7/8
6. “America’s Next Top Mode” (CW) 2.6/8
7. “Bones” (R) (FOX) 2.5/7
8. “Notes from the Underbelly” (ABC) 2.4/7
9. “Jericho” (CBS) 2.3/7
10. “According to Jim” (ABC) 2.2/7
11. “Crossing Jordan” (NBC) 2.1/5
12. “Medium” (R) (NBC) 2.0/5
13. “Lost” (R) (9-10) (ABC) 1.5/4
14. “Pussycat Dolls Present” (CW) 1.5/4

WINNERS
American Idol (FOX), Lost (ABC)

LOSERS
Jericho (CBS), Medium (NBC)

HONORABLE MENTION
CSI: NY - R (CBS)

DISHONORABLE MENTION
According to Jim (ABC), Notes from the Underbelly (ABC)

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