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Old 01-30-06 | 12:47 AM
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As was said earlier, if this show didn't suck, it wouldn't have been canceled.
Yeah, anything that sucks stays canceled! actually wait.. people watch stupid shows all the time and a lot of shows that do suck don't get canceled.

What the masses watch isn't always the sign of quality. I mean, American Idol? Just because the most popular fast food choice is McDonalds doesn't mean it reflects the quality of food they serve.
Old 01-30-06 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
Yeah, anything that sucks stays canceled! actually wait.. people watch stupid shows all the time and a lot of shows that do suck don't get canceled.

What the masses watch isn't always the sign of quality. I mean, American Idol? Just because the most popular fast food choice is McDonalds doesn't mean it reflects the quality of food they serve.
No argument there. I should have said that if the show had a fan base, it wouldn't have been cancelled.
Old 01-30-06 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Autumn
You can watch the unaired episodes on NBC's website. They are showing one per week until the series is complete:
http://www.nbc.com/The_Book_of_Daniel/
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Old 01-30-06 | 11:33 AM
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Interesting thread over at the NBC BoD forums.

http://boards.nbc.com/bb/showflat.ph...&Number=279219
Old 01-30-06 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kvrdave
No argument there. I should have said that if the show had a fan base, it wouldn't have been cancelled.

True. But it's very hard to get fans for a show that is on friday nights and isn't given much of a chance to develope. Isn't this the basic argument for anyone who usually would be saying "Fuck Fox" if they did the same for something like head cases?

I saw two of the episodes for this and while it wasn't the best T.V. I've ever seen I saw that it could have had potential if given the chance to develope some ratings.

I wont say that the bible belt was the main factor in killing it but I'm not going to say their influence wasn't part of why it was doomed to fail. Oh well, that's the nature of the business.
Old 01-30-06 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
True. But it's very hard to get fans for a show that is on friday nights and isn't given much of a chance to develope. Isn't this the basic argument for anyone who usually would be saying "Fuck Fox" if they did the same for something like head cases?

I saw two of the episodes for this and while it wasn't the best T.V. I've ever seen I saw that it could have had potential if given the chance to develope some ratings.

I wont say that the bible belt was the main factor in killing it but I'm not going to say their influence wasn't part of why it was doomed to fail. Oh well, that's the nature of the business.
Yeah. I had guessed that the show didn't test well, and that was why they gave up on it early. I can see where NBC might do something because they see the chance to get the Bible Belt happy while getting rid of a show they thought would do poorly anyway, plus they may think it is one to hand over to the WB, etc.
Old 01-30-06 | 05:08 PM
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I wrote an email to the AFA (what I posted above) and they wrote back, and this was my response to them:

--- American Family Association
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> No need to be such a sore loser. The show was an
> attack on orthodox
> Christianity. Good riddance!
>
>
>
> We wish you the best!
>
>
>
> Buddy Smith
>
> AFA <
> www.afa.net <http://www.afa.net/>
>

You're an attack on Christianity. Jesus did not take
his time to ban secular plays of His day, regardless
of content, nor did he waste His time burning books,
protesting works of art, or petitioning against
merchants of His day because He did not agree with
their political or religious beliefs. In fact, the
only time you really see Jesus taking a public stance
against anything of the sort is when he railed against
the Temple and the money changers and also when He
spoke out against the organized Orthodox religions of
His day. Your organization stands against everything
Jesus Christ spoke against.
Old 01-30-06 | 07:10 PM
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Holy shit. That guy just comes off as an asshole. Way to love thy fellow brother.
Old 01-30-06 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I wrote an email to the AFA (what I posted above) and they wrote back, and this was my response to them:

--- American Family Association
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> No need to be such a sore loser. The show was an
> attack on orthodox
> Christianity. Good riddance!
>
>
>
> We wish you the best!
>
>
>
> Buddy Smith
>
> AFA <
> www.afa.net <http://www.afa.net/>
>
Your response to this prick should have just been a copy of your sig.
Old 01-30-06 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
What? When did this happen?
About the same time everyone watching went "oh, this is just a cheap knockoff of a sweet device used on Rescue Me"
Old 01-31-06 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
I wrote an email to the AFA (what I posted above) and they wrote back, and this was my response to them:

--- American Family Association
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> No need to be such a sore loser. The show was an
> attack on orthodox
> Christianity. Good riddance!
>
>
>
> We wish you the best!
>
>
>
> Buddy Smith
>
> AFA <
> www.afa.net <http://www.afa.net/>
>

You're an attack on Christianity. Jesus did not take
his time to ban secular plays of His day, regardless
of content, nor did he waste His time burning books,
protesting works of art, or petitioning against
merchants of His day because He did not agree with
their political or religious beliefs. In fact, the
only time you really see Jesus taking a public stance
against anything of the sort is when he railed against
the Temple and the money changers and also when He
spoke out against the organized Orthodox religions of
His day. Your organization stands against everything
Jesus Christ spoke against.
Probably that will just make him more sure that he is right. Personally, when I have had these kinds of discussions with people, I find the best results are achieved by first making them see that their arguments, etc. are based on culture and not religion. One question I always ask is, "How will this further the Great Commission?"

But, it probably is like talking to a wall and just having a quickie flame fest rather than trying to actually affect change, and that can be fun as well.
Old 01-31-06 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by calhoun07
AFA won a battle, yes, but Christians will still have to face their peronal demons, and all the things that plague the world, such as divorce, drunkeness, homosexuality, incest, child molestation, and all the more, will still happen in the Church, but I guess if we don't talk about it on TV, it's OK.
I'm gay. Thanks for lumping me in with incest and child molestation. You forgot fucking animals
Old 01-31-06 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bell65
About the same time everyone watching went "oh, this is just a cheap knockoff of a sweet device used on Rescue Me"
I'd never seen Rescue Me (my service provider only recently added FX to their lineup) so I didn't know about that until an article in TIME pointed it out. Then again, while amusing, the conscience manifest as Jesus angle wasn't the driving force of the show. I would have loved to have seen the show develop since it did show promise.
Old 01-31-06 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for posting that link to the unaired episodes! I just watched "Withdrawal" and thoroughly enjoyed it.

If you want to watch the remaining episodes, get over there! I got the impression that each episode would only be available to watch online for a week each.

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Old 02-07-06 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bell65
About the same time everyone watching went "oh, this is just a cheap knockoff of a sweet device used on Rescue Me"
According to the creator, that device was already in the script and/or filmed before "Rescue Me" aired, but he realizes because of airing order, everyone will think they copied.

I only found out today about the episodes being online and just watched Ep 6 at work. Wow, that was excellent!
Old 02-07-06 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lookslikeme
You're putting too much stock in the religious reich. As someone said earlier, this controversy is the same as when NYPD Blue came out. Advertisers wouldn't back the show, small markets wouldn't carry it, different groups petitioned against its airing, but in the end, it turned out to be a great show and it shouldered the criticism. Book of Daniel was just shit! I think for me the main problem I had was they tried to cram too many "deviant" personalities/situations on at once.
As for the marketing of BOD, I saw the ads for this show so often I could recite them. They were everywhere, from TV, to newspapers, to radio, and there is no better advertisement than controversy. No matter why you believe it was canceled, simple truth is if it was garnering NBC viewers, ie. making NBC money it would still be on.

I'm putting too much stock in it? Let's see here, several markets refused to air the show and specifically cited protests by religious organizations as the reason why.

Sounds like I'm being rather accurate about their pull in some areas.

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