FINALLY! Lost -- "the 23rd Psalm" -- 01.11.2006
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I just had another thought... Assuming that the black smoke cloud seen by Eko is the same thing that Locke saw in Season 1, I wonder what Locke saw in it that was suppoesdly so wonderful. I remember reading or hearing him say that he (Terry O'Quinn) didn't know what Locke was supposed to be looking at, but that the direction he was given was to act as if he was looking at the most wonderful/beautiful (forget which word he used) thing he'd ever seen.
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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux
don't know if anyone touched on this, but i was thinking about it.
why did Eko react to Claire the way he did when she told him about the statue? I could understand reacting strangely if he SAW the statue (cause he'd recognize it). But lots of people have virgin mary statues, it's not like the ones used in the drug-running are the only ones out in the world. Was Eko EXPECTING to find the plane on this island?
why did Eko react to Claire the way he did when she told him about the statue? I could understand reacting strangely if he SAW the statue (cause he'd recognize it). But lots of people have virgin mary statues, it's not like the ones used in the drug-running are the only ones out in the world. Was Eko EXPECTING to find the plane on this island?
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i was also windering how could a small plame like that could make it trough and over the ocean
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We don't know everything about Jack yet. His wife's fate? His tatoos?
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I know. But the person I quoted stated that everyone left on the island had commited some kind of sin, that's why i brought up Jack. We are going to just assume that he did something evil just because so many other people on the island have and because we don't know that he didn't? That's like the reverse of the justice system.
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Yeah I thought that was a bit weird. He seemed to know right away that they were the statues he had put on the plane. Unless he knew Charlie was using drugs before, but I don't think he did.
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Michael and walt did nothing evil
I think Echo has long suspected that he was taken to the island for a real reason (we still dont know why he was on the plane...he could have had visions of his brother telling him just to get on the plane) and once he heard about a Virgin Mary statue...he instantly knew
I think Echo has long suspected that he was taken to the island for a real reason (we still dont know why he was on the plane...he could have had visions of his brother telling him just to get on the plane) and once he heard about a Virgin Mary statue...he instantly knew
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Given the role those statues played in his life, it would be logical for him to assume they were probably the same ones. Just too big of a coincidence for him to not be curious and not want to check.
And remember he wanted Charlie to show him where he found them, so he clearly needed to confirm his suspicion. So it's not like he was 100% that they were the same statues, but just had strong reason to believe they were.
And remember he wanted Charlie to show him where he found them, so he clearly needed to confirm his suspicion. So it's not like he was 100% that they were the same statues, but just had strong reason to believe they were.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
The way I took it is that he was from that small town. They(someone in town) probably made them, themselves, making the look of them unique to their town. Why would a small town import 300 Mary statues to raise money? I think they made them locally, that is why they looked familiar.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
Given the role those statues played in his life, it would be logical for him to assume they were probably the same ones. Just too big of a coincidence for him to not be curious and not want to check.
Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
And remember he wanted Charlie to show him where he found them, so he clearly needed to confirm his suspicion. So it's not like he was 100% that they were the same statues, but just had strong reason to believe they were.
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Originally Posted by Achtung
IIRC, Claire just mentioned that Charlie "was religious because he had a statue of the Virgin Mary"..
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
We don't know everything about Jack yet. His wife's fate? His tatoos?
the 5 is supposed to be from Party of Five?
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Originally Posted by Thos19
The Others must be hibernating. You'd think a plane on fire might have caught their attention.
Thos.
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originally posted by Achtung:
unless he knew the plane was headed into that area of the South Pacific and he knew the plane had gone down. Maybe that's why he was on the flight, following the path of the plane
unless he knew the plane was headed into that area of the South Pacific and he knew the plane had gone down. Maybe that's why he was on the flight, following the path of the plane
the only problem with that is one flight took off from Nigeria, while the other was Australia
anyone else find it kinda amusing that Eko was this big feared gangster, who wound up being bossed around by a woman (and a cop at that)
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just found this on the fuselage, HD screen caps of the "smoke" and a few other things.
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x10/
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yeah, i can buy that, too. just a guy following up on a hunch. i guess i'd want to look at anyone's virgin mary statue, too, if i was in his same situation... but there just seemed to be something more to his reaction to claire.
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what if the drugs were heading for Charlie and his brother? The plane (obviously) never made it, so Eko likely was getting on a plane to find out what happened to his stuff.
I may be grasping at straws, but the bag of heroin that Charlie had in the plane looked a lot like the bags that were inside the statues. Perhaps Eko was Charlie's supplier.
I may be grasping at straws, but the bag of heroin that Charlie had in the plane looked a lot like the bags that were inside the statues. Perhaps Eko was Charlie's supplier.
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I may be grasping at straws, but the bag of heroin that Charlie had in the plane looked a lot like the bags that were inside the statues. Perhaps Eko was Charlie's supplier.
Plus from the conversation with the dealers, it sounded like there wasn't heroin in Nigeria (nor a demand for it there) so it seems impossible that he could have been a supplier.
Now he could possibly have been sending it to the people who Charlie got his drugs from, but still wouldn't explain the bag looking similar since that plane load would have been the only one they ever shipped out.
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Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle
It seemed like that batch of Heroin was the first drugs Eko ever tried to move. Unless he was just lying to his brother.
Plus from the conversation with the dealers, it sounded like there wasn't heroin in Nigeria (nor a demand for it there) so it seems impossible that he could have been a supplier.
Now he could possibly have been sending it to the people who Charlie got his drugs from, but still wouldn't explain the bag looking similar since that plane load would have been the only one they ever shipped out.
Plus from the conversation with the dealers, it sounded like there wasn't heroin in Nigeria (nor a demand for it there) so it seems impossible that he could have been a supplier.
Now he could possibly have been sending it to the people who Charlie got his drugs from, but still wouldn't explain the bag looking similar since that plane load would have been the only one they ever shipped out.
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From Entertainment Weekly:
Smoke Gets in Your Isle
Read our ''Lost'' conspiracy theory of the month, courtesy of EW's Jeff Jensen. Don't agree with him? Then post your own best guess to the mysteries of ''Lost''
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES Are you more Lost than ever? Share your thoughts
Every month EW will turn to our shadowy operative inside the world of Lost for insight. Burn this when you're done. The truth is out there.
We have looked into the face of The Monster and have seen The Abyss — cinematically speaking. Lost's Jan. 11 episode finally gave us a body shot of the show's man-chomping, peek-a-boo boogey-beast. Meet Smokey: a billowing coil of seemingly sentient black haze, a shadowy cousin to the morphing, mind-reading ETs of James Cameron's sci-fi opus. The Abyss allusion could be instructive, though I doubt it's pointing us toward an extraterrestrial explanation of the island.
Think thematically. In the movie, the aliens were so alarmed by mankind's potential for self-destruction, they resorted to drastic measures — the threat of annihilation by tidal wave — to save us. On Lost, we've learned that the island has been/is host to gonzo experiments funded by Alvar Hanso, a munitions mogul/philanthropist dedicated to ''a brighter future for all humanity.'' (See ''Hanso's'' website here.) My theory? Twilight Zone Isle is being used by Hanso's Dharma Initiative as a sort of human recycling plant, designed to to either rehabilitate damaged, fallen people — or junk them.
Smokey is a sophisticated piece of machinery in this soul-crunching refinery. Its function: quality control. Kinda like another cult-pop alien, the Marvel Comics scourge Galactus. Apparently, the planet-chomping leviathan (also telepathic) serves an elusive celestial purpose. He might be the embodiment of random catastrophe — an essential Lost theme. Yet he might also exist to test the mettle of living beings. Fend him off; you deserve to live. If you can't, you don't. Chomp!
But back to Lost: During Smokey's stare-down with Mr. Eko, the monster appeared to scan the former Nigerian warlord's personal history, then retreated instead of eviscerating him. Why? Because the Born Again Eko was deemed worthy. (For now, at least.) But I could be wrong. After all, we're talking about a creature made of smog and reflective properties — in other words, smoke and mirrors.
Smoke Gets in Your Isle
Read our ''Lost'' conspiracy theory of the month, courtesy of EW's Jeff Jensen. Don't agree with him? Then post your own best guess to the mysteries of ''Lost''
UNSOLVED MYSTERIES Are you more Lost than ever? Share your thoughts
Every month EW will turn to our shadowy operative inside the world of Lost for insight. Burn this when you're done. The truth is out there.
We have looked into the face of The Monster and have seen The Abyss — cinematically speaking. Lost's Jan. 11 episode finally gave us a body shot of the show's man-chomping, peek-a-boo boogey-beast. Meet Smokey: a billowing coil of seemingly sentient black haze, a shadowy cousin to the morphing, mind-reading ETs of James Cameron's sci-fi opus. The Abyss allusion could be instructive, though I doubt it's pointing us toward an extraterrestrial explanation of the island.
Think thematically. In the movie, the aliens were so alarmed by mankind's potential for self-destruction, they resorted to drastic measures — the threat of annihilation by tidal wave — to save us. On Lost, we've learned that the island has been/is host to gonzo experiments funded by Alvar Hanso, a munitions mogul/philanthropist dedicated to ''a brighter future for all humanity.'' (See ''Hanso's'' website here.) My theory? Twilight Zone Isle is being used by Hanso's Dharma Initiative as a sort of human recycling plant, designed to to either rehabilitate damaged, fallen people — or junk them.
Smokey is a sophisticated piece of machinery in this soul-crunching refinery. Its function: quality control. Kinda like another cult-pop alien, the Marvel Comics scourge Galactus. Apparently, the planet-chomping leviathan (also telepathic) serves an elusive celestial purpose. He might be the embodiment of random catastrophe — an essential Lost theme. Yet he might also exist to test the mettle of living beings. Fend him off; you deserve to live. If you can't, you don't. Chomp!
But back to Lost: During Smokey's stare-down with Mr. Eko, the monster appeared to scan the former Nigerian warlord's personal history, then retreated instead of eviscerating him. Why? Because the Born Again Eko was deemed worthy. (For now, at least.) But I could be wrong. After all, we're talking about a creature made of smog and reflective properties — in other words, smoke and mirrors.
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I was looking at the rubberband that was around the heroin bags, and they look like the same rubberbands that Locke had around the plastic he used to wrap his sandwich. Could it be possible that Locke's box company manufacturered the rubberbands that Ecko used on the heroin bags that Charlie bought?
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Originally Posted by Shoveler
Yes, that's one of the bigger backstories that we have yet to see. It's probably going to reveal a lot, and will probably include some link to another backstory (given the way things have been going).
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by cracksky
Attention: Major probable spoiler alert ahead for next week's episode. Do not reveal unless you want to. You have been warned.
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