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DVD Josh 12-15-05 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by SexualPudding
Give yourself a rest. I never said I thought Liz had a penis. I was not agreeing with the original poster who said that. I was merely bringing it up because that was what in turn brought up the artificial insemination angle.
One doesn't need a penis for penetration.

Oh, and Groucho never rests. Why do you think his post count is so high?

:D :) :D :) ;)

SexualPudding 12-15-05 12:05 PM
I am well aware no penis is needed for penetration, thanks.

You seem to be missing my point as well. In my post, all of that had nothing to do with Liz having a schlong or not having one. I only mentioned it because someone else brought up the insemination thing because of it. My point was what exactly did and did not transpire with Christian's jizz.

DVD Josh 12-15-05 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by SexualPudding
I am well aware no penis is needed for penetration, thanks.

You seem to be missing my point as well. In my post, all of that had nothing to do with Liz having a schlong or not having one. I only mentioned it because someone else brought up the insemination thing because of it. My point was what exactly did and did not transpire with Christian's jizz.
Well you also miss my point, which was stating that you could still be right with Liz. See, when you are so ready to be argumentative, you don't notice when people are on your side.

sebastianv50 12-15-05 12:19 PM
At this point after thinking a lot about it and getting all the info I think I will get I am going to have to guess Gina. I seriously doubt they would show Liz and Quentin being interrogated and then have them end up being the Carver. Nip Tuck always does things like that in the trailers as a way to throw people off and even if it seems rather obvious they are doing it, I still think they are. It's just their style.

DVD Josh 12-15-05 12:27 PM
Originally Posted by sebastianv50
At this point after thinking a lot about it and getting all the info I think I will get I am going to have to guess Gina. I seriously doubt they would show Liz and Quentin being interrogated and then have them end up being the Carver. Nip Tuck always does things like that in the trailers as a way to throw people off and even if it seems rather obvious they are doing it, I still think they are. It's just their style.
Although I think it would be strange for it to be Gina, it would be a cool ending to have her, holding the mask, and looking at Christain saying "wrong guy, asshole".

SexualPudding 12-15-05 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
Well you also miss my point, which was stating that you could still be right with Liz. See, when you are so ready to be argumentative, you don't notice when people are on your side.
LOL touche. Sorry, man.

DVD Josh 12-15-05 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by SexualPudding
LOL touche. Sorry, man.
Just don't carve me :)

Jimmy James 12-15-05 01:35 PM
A bizarre thought struck me in the middle of the night. Yes, I am dreaming about who the Carver is.

Back in season 1, they gave the drug cartel guy the face of somebody else on the 10 most wanted list so he'd be arrested in the airport when he attempted to leave. What if the Carver is not in fact somebody we have met but is somebody we're familiar with from that encounter -- the guy the FBI stopped looking for. I admit I forget whether they told us what he was wanted for or anything like that, but I do think that this sort of conclusion if done right would satisfy RM's issue with how the killer is a throwaway because it would implicate very deep seated issues from the show's past for that guy to be the one terrorizing Miami.

DVD Josh 12-15-05 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
A bizarre thought struck me in the middle of the night. Yes, I am dreaming about who the Carver is.

Back in season 1, they gave the drug cartel guy the face of somebody else on the 10 most wanted list so he'd be arrested in the airport when he attempted to leave. What if the Carver is not in fact somebody we have met but is somebody we're familiar with from that encounter -- the guy the FBI stopped looking for. I admit I forget whether they told us what he was wanted for or anything like that, but I do think that this sort of conclusion if done right would satisfy RM's issue with how the killer is a throwaway because it would implicate very deep seated issues from the show's past for that guy to be the one terrorizing Miami.
I think that guy just shot a cop. Not the kind of crime you'd think would lead to Carving people.

Jimmy James 12-15-05 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I think that guy just shot a cop. Not the kind of crime you'd think would lead to Carving people.
Just shooting a cop gets you on the 10 most wanted list?

DVD Josh 12-15-05 02:42 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
Just shooting a cop gets you on the 10 most wanted list?
Good point. We should rewatch that episode. Alvar Escobar?

sq240 12-15-05 03:44 PM
I am drawing a blank, who is Erica? Is it that girl Matt ran over and when has she been recently mentioned in an episode?

Groucho 12-15-05 04:08 PM
Erica = Julia's mother (Vanessa Redgrave)

DVD Josh 12-15-05 04:15 PM
Originally Posted by sq240
I am drawing a blank, who is Erica? Is it that girl Matt ran over and when has she been recently mentioned in an episode?
You are reffering to Cara Fitzgerald

treszoks 12-15-05 04:21 PM
The carver is two people, Joan Rivers and her daughter;)

SexualPudding 12-15-05 04:26 PM
LOL Joan. She needs to take the damn mask off then. She is far more terrifying without it!

Jimmy James 12-15-05 06:18 PM
Speaking of Joan and her storyline...

Spoiler:
...when Julia turned up pregnant and we learned it wasn't Quentin, I was terrified that we were going to learn that she got herself pregnant from use of the cream. I suppose it is still possible, which is why I spoilerized this. I haven't heard anything to that effect, but it seems just twisted enough to be Nip/Tuck.

Clyde099 12-15-05 06:59 PM
All this talk about the big C has me over-hyped for the finale. Not that it's a bad thing, but I think I am going to go in watching the finale expecting too much of a shoker and then end up disliking the outcome. Oh well.

I've read endless Carver theories in different forums, but it all just confuses me even more. Perhaps we're missing something that's right under our nose...I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

riley_dude 12-15-05 07:21 PM
IN the new TV guide they give their theories and odds on who they think could be the carver.
Gina: 50:1
Bobbi Broderick: 20:1
Quentin: 10:1
Bobolit: 8:5
Matt 5:2
Ava 5:1
Liz: 2:1

movielib 12-15-05 07:31 PM
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
A bizarre thought struck me in the middle of the night. Yes, I am dreaming about who the Carver is.

Back in season 1, they gave the drug cartel guy the face of somebody else on the 10 most wanted list so he'd be arrested in the airport when he attempted to leave. What if the Carver is not in fact somebody we have met but is somebody we're familiar with from that encounter -- the guy the FBI stopped looking for. I admit I forget whether they told us what he was wanted for or anything like that, but I do think that this sort of conclusion if done right would satisfy RM's issue with how the killer is a throwaway because it would implicate very deep seated issues from the show's past for that guy to be the one terrorizing Miami.
I've been thinking for a long time that it might have something to do with the end of season one. But it's been so long it would seem like a cheat...

riley_dude 12-15-05 07:37 PM
I think its someone much more fresh in our minds.

starseed 12-16-05 12:08 AM
Not that this necessarily reveals anything, but there's a shorter promo for the season finale running on FX now (it was just on during Fear Factor) that shows several different characters taking off the Carver mask in rapid succession (so rapid that I had to pause it with my TiVo and step through frame by frame to catch all the faces).

They are, in order:

Spoiler:
Sean
Matt
Quentin
Julia
Liz
Kimber
Gina
Christian

Christian's face is on for the longest amount of time. Julia's for the shortest. All of these are "major" characters except for Gina (in that Jessalyn Gilsig's name does not appear during the main titles; she's a "guest star" when Gina is in an episode). I don't think this necessarily means that the Carver is one of these eight characters, but I do find it interesting that they chose to film this little clip with all of the actors, and especially interesting that Gina is in there.

Rypro 525 12-16-05 12:18 AM
Originally Posted by starseed
Spoiler:
All of these are "major" characters except for Gina (in that Jessalyn Gilsig's name does not appear during the main titles; she's a "guest star" when Gina is in an episode). I don't think this necessarily means that the Carver is one of these eight characters, but I do find it interesting that they chose to film this little clip with all of the actors, and especially interesting that Gina is in there.
actually
Spoiler:
after her character on Prison Break was killed that week, she was consitered part of the main cast (as in the main credits) for a few weeks, just as the "spa" arc started.

Jimmy James 12-16-05 12:20 AM
Originally Posted by riley_dude
I think its someone much more fresh in our minds.
I think it has to be if the storyline will end on Tuesday. If we are in for more of this during at least the early part of season 4, I think it could be literally anyone we have seen on screen in the past just as long as the explanation is good enough.

starseed 12-16-05 09:05 AM
Two plot points from next week's synopses that I found interesting:

Spoiler:
"Cherry Peck" - Julia's worries about her unwanted pregnancy give her nightmares.

"Quentin Costa" - Julia makes a discovery about her pregnancy.

I think this possibly means that Jude is the actual father of her child, and, more importantly, that Jude is the Carver. We know Jude and Julia were hooking up again at the beginning of the season; we saw him going down on her, and I think it's reasonable to assume they had intercourse too... Jude seems to definitely have feelings for Julia - she has also never even been hinted at as being a possible target of the Carver - which would explain why he went easy on Sean, as it would upset Julia too much. He absolutely hates Christian, but I can't think of why he wouldn't have slashed Christian's face. I still favor Liz and Bobolit over Jude, but it would certainly be an interesting revelation to have Julia pregnant with the Carver's child, and just messed up enough for this show.


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