Seems both Quinten and Liz are brought in for questioning, making me think there's no way it could be either of them (not that I thought so to begin with). I've read ideas that Sean could be doing this as a split personality, and some of the evidence is very good (only one side of his face cut, he wasn't raped), but I don't think they can really get rid of his character... Julia's pregnancy, where could that possibly be going? Why go through that storyline again? There must be more to it but I can't think of anything. Anyway, I'm sticking with Gina because she is the character who is just perfectly visible yet under the radar enough.

The only thing I am having trouble about with Gina is that I have no idea how the whole "beauty is a curse" aspect fits her. Maybe I just can't think of it right now, but I am drawing a complete blank on that one.

Something else about Liz, though. It was suggested earlier that she might be packing some meat, and at that time a poster reminded everyone about Christian agreeing to hand over some of his little sailors to her for artificial insemination. Now, I can't recall what exactly was and wasn't shown, but was Christian actually in her presence when she was inseminated? If not, then he just handed over his semen to her, which still raises a red flag to me. The whole "Liz trying to have a baby" and getting Christian's semen storyline hasn't been mentioned at all in a long time, so I don't see that being a red herring, either.

I am almost starting to get the feeling like Liz is at the very least involved in some capacity. The part in next week's preview that showed her being questioned by the police had to have been strategically placed there by the show's producers, and a big part of me is thinking it is because they want a lot of people to cross her name off the list of potential suspects. I will not be the least bit surprised if it turns out to be Liz acting in cahoots with someone else. I remember hearing a lot of rumblings a while back about the Carver possibly being more than one person, too.

Are there any former patients who got burned by McNamera/Troy who could possibly be either an accomplice or in fact the one under the mask doing the cutting?

I've been on the Liz-as-Carver train all season long, hope I'm right!

I don't think it's Gina either, but I can see how "beauty is a curse" could apply to her. This is, after all, the person that contracted AIDS because of her addiction to sex.

Yeah, that is definitely possible, but I just can't see it with her. I was leaning towards her earlier, but now it just doesn't work anymore for me. You also have to keep in mind, well after she found out she had contracted the HIV virus, here she is sucking off random construction workers, delivery people, etc. in order to get favors done to get her and Julia's spa up and running quickly. Because of that and other factors, I just don't see her taking the "beauty is a curse" thing to the extreme that the Carver obviously has. She just seems like a slut who, after finding out that her wanton ways are going to end her life, basically keeps on slutting it up.

I don't think Gina's got it in her. She is just too much of a simpleton the more I think about it, and if it ended up being her, it just wouldn't fit and would seem like a real cop out. Using sex as a tool to get what she wants is about as cunning as her character gets, in my opinion.

That was me who was talking about Liz. And yes, it was Christain who inseminated her. It's right on the S2 DVDs :)

But, if you read my episode descriptors for next week on the preceeding page:


So in light of the above, it still could be anybody, even Liz, though I think it's very very very very very unlikely.

I don't know all that much about artificial insemination, but I'm pretty sure you don't just hand over your semen to somebody. He likely went to the doctor Liz was seeing and made the donation there. Unless they actually showed Christian handing her a cup of semen in Season 2 somewhere and I've forgot about it.

Has the been confirmed?

I am not going to say 100%, but I am pretty sure. I based my "script" on alot of available spoiler material that I dug for and some other things that have been dropped as well as my feel for how the show reveals and develops itself.

DVDJosh, I did like your story/scripts by the way!
:)

I am really looking forward to Tuesday. I can't remember being this hyped up for a finale in a while!!!

Folks, they showed Liz getting an abortion. Can we please give the whole "Liz has a penis" thing a rest?

I've been thinking that the Carver was Jude for a long time now, but now I would be disappointed if it was, since he has been out of the series for so long. To have him as the Carver would probably confuse fans that picked up the show recently, and wouldn't be a great shock. Ditto for Baldwin, Slotnick, even Ava, although she was around more than them this season.

Good points movieking...I believe Jude showed up at the beginning of the season for a brief scene with Julia, correct? (Similar to Ava). Bobolit hasn't even been mentioned. I may have ranked him too high...

Jude was with Julia (they had finished making love) in the season premiere.

As for Bobolit, I think it's different. They had a major story with him and a pretty shocking ending. The Carver showed up in that timeframe. I don't think we ranked him that high at all.

By the way, in an interview with the actor that plays Costa, he said that the Carver's identity was "not guessable". That's probably because they filmed so many reveals, but it may also be because it truly isn't.

Okay, here is an amalgamation of the "face images" from the end of the myspace Carver videos (again SPOILER warning):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...video_face.jpg

Thanks. I expect major props when it goes down like that!

The only way it couldn't be guessable is if it's a brand new character that's revealed at the exact same time the carver is unmasked. No matter who it is, somebody somewhere has guessed it...probably somebody in this thread.

Now let's talk about the Carver's first appearance. Here are images from the rape scene:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ck/carver1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ck/carver2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...ck/carver4.jpg

I think the above shows that the Carver was not originally intended to be a recurring character and has since changed. However, carver4 shows something interesting:

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As we know:

Series creator Ryan Murphy has said that The Carver will be 'somebody we know' and added that "It's always a horrible cheat when it's someone like a neighbor who you met once, and they're the killer," and said that The Carver could be a male or female. Ryan Murphy also has said The Carver will be unmasked in the last scene of the third season finale.

Also Groucho, I expected some comment from you on my episode descriptors for next week! Don't let me down :)

I didn't read them as I'm avoiding as much spoiler material as possible.

BTW, you owe $25 to charity. ;)

You know the other day, I couldn't remember what we actually bet on! It did come to me.

Are you referring to the "grandma told me about this therapist" line? That proves nothing!!! :D

Cool about the spoiler material. As I said, I have NO idea who the Carver is really.

True, dat:

• Matt could have been lying about talking to Erika
• Matt could have consulted with Erika via a medium.
• Matt's conversation with Ariel may have been a fantasy sequence.

MASSIVE SPOILER re: casting.



Now the second person is a VERY interesting option considering what went on .

Well I was thinking of something less fantastic, like he got the card a while ago :)

I though the carver was:

Give yourself a rest. I never said I thought Liz had a penis. I was not agreeing with the original poster who said that. I was merely bringing it up because that was what in turn brought up the artificial insemination angle.