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Old 09-29-05 | 09:32 PM
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all in all a pretty meh opener. if this is gonna be the last season, i hope they let them know early enought to let them do a proper series finale.

so is
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the other thing that gets me is that unless she was working on her own, i wouldn't think there would be any way that a 4-5 months pregnant syd would be out in the field.
Old 09-29-05 | 09:49 PM
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Were we supposed to know who the blonde chick was who helped that "ghost" guy decrypt Vaughn's file? It wasn't the girl from that party in Capetown, was it?

The girl that decrypted the file was Rachel Nichols, the actress that's supposedly going to be taking over for Jennifer Garner after this season (if there is another season).
Old 09-29-05 | 10:01 PM
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It looked so funny when they tried covering up her belly. It was so obvious, even when she was running through the corn field.

So that's Rachel Nichols? Probably another case where she thinks she's working for the good guys, and comes over to the "real" good side after she finds out?
Old 09-29-05 | 10:05 PM
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the other thing that gets me is that unless she was working on her own, i wouldn't think there would be any way that a 4-5 months pregnant syd would be out in the field.
I don't think that she was supposed to be that far along on the show. Which is why they used so many camera tricks to keep her belly from showing all the time.
Old 09-29-05 | 10:08 PM
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Anyone else felt that it feels like they back on track. I agree that this season could be really good. I again really liked tonights episode
Old 09-29-05 | 10:09 PM
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I wash my hands of this show. Just like Ross making the pro/con Rachel/Julie list and Tony Soprano having dreams directed by David Lynch, Vaughn's drawn out death was just too impossibly pointless for me to ever watch its show again. Shame on you J.J.
Old 09-29-05 | 10:27 PM
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Why? J.J. Abrams had nothing to do with this episode aside from the fact that he created the show. I sorta liked this episode even though Vaughn's death was too drawn out. But I was getting a huge sense of deja-vu this whole ep. How many times has Sydney come under investigation? And how little does APO (or SD-6 and the CIA of previous seasons) screen people who flash badges in their main offices? Security is always asleep at the wheel.

So if Michael Vartan is still to be in the show, does this mean he will appear in flashbacks or that his death was a hoax? And why not replace Sydney with Nadia instead of some new chick we haven't the slightest knowledge of?

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Old 09-29-05 | 10:42 PM
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Should I feel bad that I couldn't stop laughing during this episode?

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Old 09-29-05 | 11:00 PM
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One thing i found particularly interesting: despite the fact that Sydney usually cries over every little thing, she didn't shed a single tear at Vaughn's funeral. I don't think she cried in the hospital when she was holding his cold, dead hand either.
Old 09-29-05 | 11:04 PM
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That's it; I'm done. I knew the minute Vaughn stepped out of the car that he was toast though I am surprised he made it to the hospital (I mean really he's not Vito Corleone). My guess is there will be a lot of flashbacks but that just won't cut it for me.
Old 09-29-05 | 11:10 PM
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Is Vaughn really really dead? I still don't know, this is, after all, Alias.

So that's what Rachel Nichols looks like when she smiles. I don't know if she cracked more than a wry smile while on "The Inside" this summer.

Renee is one rough looking chick.

How did Dean slip through, seems like shoddy verification under Jack's watch.
Old 09-29-05 | 11:27 PM
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Oh, sweet mother of...

... PLEASE cancel this show so I can stop feeling dirty for watching it. Man, this isn't good.
Old 09-29-05 | 11:45 PM
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Old 09-30-05 | 12:03 AM
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I don't know either. I'm sticking it out as this is in all likelihood the last hurrah. An OK start....better than quite a few Season 4 episodes. Not exactly high praise, but better than what I was expecting.
Old 09-30-05 | 12:06 AM
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Is Vaughn really really dead?
Please. This is Alias.

He could have his head cut off, been shot 100 times with sniper bullets, been infected with the world's most deadliest viruses, or literally chopped up in pieces scattered all over the world and yet the writers still would have him come back in one piece.
Old 09-30-05 | 12:59 AM
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Please. This is Alias.

He could have his head cut off, been shot 100 times with sniper bullets, been infected with the world's most deadliest viruses, or literally chopped up in pieces scattered all over the world and yet the writers still would have him come back in one piece.
No kidding.

During the shooting, I was actually thinking "boy, they're going out of their way to make it clear Vaughn's dead. They emptied about 30 bullets into him."

Then he shows up in the hospital, and regains consciousness no less.
Old 09-30-05 | 01:37 AM
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Sydney feeding him the 'drink' just prior to his death? Sydney not breaking down into hysterics at the hospital? No shot of Vaughn in the casket at the funeral? Come on people...this is Alias. Of course he's alive.

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Old 09-30-05 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
Oh, sweet mother of...

... PLEASE cancel this show so I can stop feeling dirty for watching it. Man, this isn't good.

Some of you over react big time. this show isnt nearly that bad to wish it would be cancelled. Its still a fun show to watch. I thought tonights episode wasnt bad. You act like this is the worst show on tv. Its far from it. I dont know why you would wish it to be cancelled.

One thing I wish is that the characters would take his death harder. cry more, especially Sydney. but besides that it was a pretty good opener.
Old 09-30-05 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Damn, I got the time wrong and missed the first 30 minutes. 7 PM not 8 PM here. Argh.
Just tell me one thing: did they bring back the original ALIAS credits run? You know the one with the dark background and spotlight moving around.

As for the last 30 minutes, it seemed fine.

and what was that song playing at the funeral?
The song was Mad World by Gary Jules. Well I know this plaed at the begining and end, just not sure if it was at the time you were speaking of.

As for the episode, bleh. I think they should have taken a hiatus for her pregnancy. Bringing a baby doesn't fit well into the show. (evil thought) Or maybe they'll just have the baby killed at some point.

This sho is on a short leash for me. It is up against far too much for it to be this bad. It gets 2 more episodes to get me interested again. If it doesn't I'm done.
Old 09-30-05 | 02:37 AM
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OMG that was bad. It doesn't even feel like the same show anymore.
Old 09-30-05 | 03:19 AM
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Oh man, seeing Vaughn get riddled with bullets was most satisfying. I've hated that guy since season 1 so this was great. I was laughing hysterically when they cut to shots of him getting blown away. Hopefully he's actually dead, although no one actually seemed that sad.

The song they played at the end was Dirty Little Secret by Sarah McLachlan.
Old 09-30-05 | 05:11 AM
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I thought it was ok, but I missed the last minute or so. What happened after Syd told Renee that she was there about Vaughn?
Old 09-30-05 | 05:27 AM
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I don't know why so many people are down on Alias. I still think it's a good show. The opener was pretty good and I'm looking forward to how Jen Garner's pregnancy plays out this season for Sydney.

I've read that so many people hated last season, but I thought it was really an improvement from season 3. There was more action and some really cool missions. Season 3 nearly bored me to tears at times with the Rambaldi BS and Lauren. I thought season 4 did a great job focusing more on action and espionage storylines.

I've been watching since Season 1 and will stick it out til the end, which is hopefully not this season.
Old 09-30-05 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel-A
The song was Mad World by Gary Jules. Well I know this plaed at the begining and end, just not sure if it was at the time you were speaking of.

As for the episode, bleh. I think they should have taken a hiatus for her pregnancy. Bringing a baby doesn't fit well into the show. (evil thought) Or maybe they'll just have the baby killed at some point.

This sho is on a short leash for me. It is up against far too much for it to be this bad. It gets 2 more episodes to get me interested again. If it doesn't I'm done.

They played Mad World at the beginning and end of CSI tonight...I don't recall it in Alias though, but it's in so many tv shows lately that it's a blurring together.
Old 09-30-05 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dgmayor
They played Mad World at the beginning and end of CSI tonight...I don't recall it in Alias though, but it's in so many tv shows lately that it's a blurring together.
And that remake is getting a hell-of-a-lot more play than the original version ever did.

The ending musical montage is starting to get really annoying, BTW.

I've invested so much time in this show, I don't really want to drop it now. But, they aren't doing a lot to keep me coming back.


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