Carnivale no more. :(
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Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
I am also sorry they cancelled this nice show. But I am very thankful they made this show in first place. Let's give HBO some credit. They are the best in bringing quality television. Almost everything they make is great. I am a huge fan of a lot of their series (The Wire, SFU, Sopranos, Curb, Deadwood, enz) I am also very happy they renewed 'The Wire'. My favourite show right now. Give them a brake and enjoy what they give us. I am sure the next great show is right around the corner.
If you start something, make sure you finish it.
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Originally Posted by vhgong
I don't think i want to give credit to a company in which it does things half way.
If you start something, make sure you finish it.
If you start something, make sure you finish it.
Make no mistake, I'm very disappointed we won't be getting the whole story, but I think we got enough of a story to justify having watched it for two seasons.
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I don't think i want to give credit to a company in which it does things half way.
If you start something, make sure you finish it.
I don't think i want to give credit to a company in which it does things half way.
If you start something, make sure you finish it.
This isn't a Sci-Fi situation where they contracted for two seasons and then sabotaged the show to get out of the deal after the creators developed a two-season arc. And this isn't a Fox situation where episodes were aired out of order in scattered timeslots and cancelled before the show had any chance to make sense.
I love this series and am incredibly disappointed it won't return, but HBO gave it a fair shake. Frankly, I was shocked it even got a second season. No one but HBO would have done that.
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
Demanding they give 6 seasons of a series before starting day one of production is ridiculously unreasonable. If they did that, there never would have been any episodes of this show, since not even a high-standard network like HBO would do something that insane. How about you give them credit for finishing the two-season story when it was clear that no one watched the first?
This isn't a Sci-Fi situation where they contracted for two seasons and then sabotaged the show to get out of the deal after the creators developed a two-season arc. And this isn't a Fox situation where episodes were aired out of order in scattered timeslots and cancelled before the show had any chance to make sense.
I love this series and am incredibly disappointed it won't return, but HBO gave it a fair shake. Frankly, I was shocked it even got a second season. No one but HBO would have done that.
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This isn't a Sci-Fi situation where they contracted for two seasons and then sabotaged the show to get out of the deal after the creators developed a two-season arc. And this isn't a Fox situation where episodes were aired out of order in scattered timeslots and cancelled before the show had any chance to make sense.
I love this series and am incredibly disappointed it won't return, but HBO gave it a fair shake. Frankly, I was shocked it even got a second season. No one but HBO would have done that.
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Nope, still aint giving them credit. Still bloody pissed at them.
I still don't have closure to the story. At least print a book or something.
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I cancelled my HBO this morning, told them it was becasue of this. And the Comcast people said why didn't I wait and see whta they come up with next. Yeah, so they can just cancel it, no thanks.
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I cancelled my HBO this morning, told them it was becasue of this. And the Comcast people said why didn't I wait and see whta they come up with next. Yeah, so they can just cancel it, no thanks.
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Sucks to be you. At least you'll have some free time while I'm watching Deadwood, The Wire, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and the last seasons of Six Feet Under and The Sopranos.
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Sucks to be you. At least you'll have some free time while I'm watching Deadwood, The Wire, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and the last seasons of Six Feet Under and The Sopranos.
I have plenty of other things to watch or I woulnd't have cancelled it. I tried Deadwood and the Wire and didn't like them enough to watch them more than 4-5 episodes. I watched Sopranos for a while before dropping that as well. I like CYE, but not enough to pay $11 a month for it alone.
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Even without those shows (and Ali G and Unscripted and ...), it'd still be worth it to me for their amazing sports coverage, documentaries, and original films. Considering all I get from them, I've always found HBO to be a bargain.
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Originally Posted by datagirl7
I cancelled my HBO this morning, told them it was becasue of this. And the Comcast people said why didn't I wait and see whta they come up with next. Yeah, so they can just cancel it, no thanks.
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I had wanted to start watching Carnivale this past season, but never got around to getting S1 so I knew WTF was going on. Should I even bother watching the 1st 2 seasons now? Is it ever going to come back?
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Nope, probably never coming back. The creator of the show has already moved on to a new show. And from what I hear (thanks to TV Guide and their damn spoilers) it ends on a bit of a cliffhanger.
I'd recommend NOT watching it at all. If you watch even one season you'll probably get really hooked and want more........but of course there isn't any more beyond the second season.
I'd recommend NOT watching it at all. If you watch even one season you'll probably get really hooked and want more........but of course there isn't any more beyond the second season.
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It's never coming back, but the first two seasons tell a great, complete story and are well worth watching.
It does not end on a cliffhanger. It ends with some unresolved questions, but so what? Along the way, you get a compelling story and most of the questions get answered.
It does not end on a cliffhanger. It ends with some unresolved questions, but so what? Along the way, you get a compelling story and most of the questions get answered.
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I had wanted to start watching Carnivale this past season, but never got around to getting S1 so I knew WTF was going on. Should I even bother watching the 1st 2 seasons now? Is it ever going to come back?
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Should I even bother watching the 1st 2 seasons now?
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It's never coming back, but the first two seasons tell a great, complete story and are well worth watching.
It does not end on a cliffhanger. It ends with some unresolved questions, but so what? Along the way, you get a compelling story and most of the questions get answered.
It does not end on a cliffhanger. It ends with some unresolved questions, but so what? Along the way, you get a compelling story and most of the questions get answered.
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I just finished the first two episodes of season one and am hooked already. I hate to hear that it's been cancelled because I can already tell that I'm going to really dig this series, but I don't plan to let that ruin my enjoyment of the two seasons that were produced. Still, I predict that by the time I get to the end of the second season, I'll be bummed that it's over.
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Join the club!! Yeah....wait for them to come out with something really new and tell a half way story. Thanks but save that story, i don't want to invest my time in something with no ending.
Life is risk....
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'Carnivale' Fans Besiege HBO with E-mails
In a somewhat unusual strategy, HBO Chairman Chris Albrecht refutes claims that his network is no longer capable of generating watercooler buzz by referencing an already cancelled drama.
"Never have we gotten besieged the way we have been besieged by 'Carnivale' fans for deciding not to go on with the third season of that show," Albrecht admits. "I mean literally 50,000 e-mails over a weekend and I don't mean the first weekend. It's so over-the-top, not just in terms of the number, but in terms of things that they say and threaten."
Do you hear that, "Carnivale" fans? HBO has heard your wailing and gnashing of teeth, but no matter how much you threaten to boil their bunnies, make pate of their dogs or get medieval on their hindquarters, the Depression-era drama, starring Nick Stahl and Clancy Brown, isn't coming back any time soon.
Albrecht tells reporters that the second season of "Carnivale" was originally supposed to conclude with a satisfying and close-ended conclusion -- the ultimate confrontation between Brown's problematic Brother Justin and Stahl's miracle-working Ben -- but that producers decided to add a cliffhanger, leaving the show's small, but passionate legion of devotees at a loss.
Sure, audiences for "Carnivale" were down dramatically in the show's second season. And sure, creator Daniel Knauf signed a development deal to defect to Showtime as the second season was still concluding. Those factors aside, though, it sounds as if the problem was money.
"Honestly, if 'Carnivale' was a $2 million-an-hour show, we'd keep going with it," Albrecht says. "But a period piece, shot all on location, a huge cast like that ... by the third season of a show time that -- and you've got to order at least 13 episodes to give something a real shot -- it's an enormous investment."
Albrecht still sounds proud of the show, which has hauled in an impressive number of technical Emmy nominations the past two years, but he's also got an air of finality.
"You have to says, 'Can I take this money and allocate it in other ways to appeal to that same audience?'" he explains. "Although after reading the e-mails, I'm not sure."
In a somewhat unusual strategy, HBO Chairman Chris Albrecht refutes claims that his network is no longer capable of generating watercooler buzz by referencing an already cancelled drama.
"Never have we gotten besieged the way we have been besieged by 'Carnivale' fans for deciding not to go on with the third season of that show," Albrecht admits. "I mean literally 50,000 e-mails over a weekend and I don't mean the first weekend. It's so over-the-top, not just in terms of the number, but in terms of things that they say and threaten."
Do you hear that, "Carnivale" fans? HBO has heard your wailing and gnashing of teeth, but no matter how much you threaten to boil their bunnies, make pate of their dogs or get medieval on their hindquarters, the Depression-era drama, starring Nick Stahl and Clancy Brown, isn't coming back any time soon.
Albrecht tells reporters that the second season of "Carnivale" was originally supposed to conclude with a satisfying and close-ended conclusion -- the ultimate confrontation between Brown's problematic Brother Justin and Stahl's miracle-working Ben -- but that producers decided to add a cliffhanger, leaving the show's small, but passionate legion of devotees at a loss.
Sure, audiences for "Carnivale" were down dramatically in the show's second season. And sure, creator Daniel Knauf signed a development deal to defect to Showtime as the second season was still concluding. Those factors aside, though, it sounds as if the problem was money.
"Honestly, if 'Carnivale' was a $2 million-an-hour show, we'd keep going with it," Albrecht says. "But a period piece, shot all on location, a huge cast like that ... by the third season of a show time that -- and you've got to order at least 13 episodes to give something a real shot -- it's an enormous investment."
Albrecht still sounds proud of the show, which has hauled in an impressive number of technical Emmy nominations the past two years, but he's also got an air of finality.
"You have to says, 'Can I take this money and allocate it in other ways to appeal to that same audience?'" he explains. "Although after reading the e-mails, I'm not sure."



