I can extract a clip of the original if you would like.
And yes, the audio mix of that scene is completely different during the episode versus the promo clip.

Regarding the tattoo - you can also see it in last week's episode (the plane falling from the tree episode) when Locke brings in the injured Boone to Jack.

Yeah, that would be great.

Double Down - let me know if this link works and if the file plays (encoded in Xvid) http://www.samesame.info/vid/clip01.avi
I'll remove it when you're done.

The mix was different in the episode (was overlaid with static and Locke's shouts), but the actual voice line is the same and says "We're the survivors..." I can't believe that some people still refuse to accept this.

I accept it. In fact, I think i was the first to mention it in last week's thread

On the subject of the voice on the radio...some people (me included) thought it sounded like Boone on BOTH ends. Obviously it wasn't an echo or direct repeat of what the "real" Boone said, but it sounded like him, IMO. Could the theory that they are in a time warp or whatever maybe be true? Think about it - Abrams says a major character will die, he does. They make a big deal about it in the media, Boone (Somerhalder) comes across kind of upset that he was killed off, etc. Maybe they're just setting it up to be a bigger shocker when we discover another "Boone" later on? Pretty far fetched, but I wouldn't put it past them.

I have the clip so you can delete it, but I can't get it to play. What's "XVid"? I suppose I need to download a special codec to get it to work.

You could install the actual xvid codec found here: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/xvid.html

or ffdshow (a general purpose decoding filter), found here: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/software.htm

if you do not want to install those, i can re-encode tonight or maybe someone can do it during the day.

"People" still refuse to accept it because "people" thought they heard different things. If there were only a handful of people who thought they heard "there were no survivors . . ." I'd have already admitted that I must have not heard it correctly. However, there are just as many people who think they heard "there were no survivors" as think they heard "we are the survivors . . . ." That's why.

Quotes from TV Tome:

If I can ever get that clip to play and can hear it again, maybe I'll change my mind. For now, though, I'm holding to my belief that the voice said "there were no survivors . . . ."

It's not that I don't "want" to download the codecs, it's that I can't download them to my office computer. I'll try when I get home. Thanks for the clip.

I can possibly get a screen shot with the closed captioning on. It clearly says "There are no survivors..." in the close captioning.

The problem with closed captioning is sometimes it's not entirely accurate unless the person had the actual shooting script with them. Otherwise, they make a best guess as to what was said during garbled dialog.

Perhaps, but a screen cap of the closed captioning would still serve to show JM that he might not be correct. I fail to see why he's so confident that the voice said "we're the survivors" when so many people clearly heard otherwise.

I am not 100% convinced the voice said "there are no survivors," but I don't think JM has any basis for concluding 100% that the voice said "we're the survivors."

I don't need a screenshot. I know what the CC said. I also know that CC is *often* wrong. If you've ever watched much TV with CC turned on or looked into how most CC is done, you should know this. In fact, I have as as a signature line in some other forums a CC mistranslation I noticed in an episode of Stargate. A Jaffa said, "Jal kek nemran," but the CC text reported it as "You shan't kick an O'Brien." Obviously, this is a little different since a foreign language was involved. Still, CC text can be and often is incorrect. I've seen many, many other instances of it. I've seen many times where even a clearly spoken sentence ends up as slightly different CC text. CC isn't magic.

My basis for concluding it said "We are the survivors..." is twofold. First, I recorded the episode on my ReplayTV and watched the scene multiple times (including live in HD). I have a fairly high quality center channel speaker, and that is what was said. Second, the fact that the promo contains the same audio clip minus the added static and mixed in voice of Locke just confirms it. The promo has aired several times since then, and I doubt it is a joke.

BTW, when I said "people" I was not singling anybody (i.e. you) out. I've seen posters in other forums refuse to believe it as well.

I said the screen cap "might" help convince you that you shouldn't be quite so certain -- not that it would completely convince you to change your mind.

I didn't think you were singling me out, but since I'm part of the "people" you were directing your comments to, I felt my comments were necessary.

If the other voice did say "We are the survivors", that would be huge. So if it was the writers intention to have the voice say that, it should have been a lot clearer during the original telecast. We shouldnt have to go on the internet and listen to it again dozens of times.

It is the writers' intention to create intrigue, which creates buzz, which in turn maintains and hopefully increases the viewership. They love the external buzz that this show creates. That's why they take active roles on thefuselage.com.

Like this last poster said, I think it was intentional that you couldn't clearly hear what was said, even in multiple playbacks. I am familiar with sound mixing and it almost sounds like they intentionally covered up the beginning part of the sentence so that you THINK you know what you heard. Before reading this debate, I watched the episode twice and I thought I heard it BOTH ways: "We are the survivors..." AND "There were no survivors..." That's why I was SO surprised when they had a different mix of the guy on the radio in the recent promos.

Also before I came here, I TOO did think that the guy on the other side of the radio sounded like Boone. If it is, it could be the BIGGEST resurrection on a TV show since Bobby Ewing in "Dallas."

Anybody see this week's TV guide? There's some more Boone info in there, not sure how much of it is different than EW's article. But there's a possible spoiler that got me thinking about next season.

I've reconverted the file to an mpeg. Try it now:
http://www.samesame.info/vid/clipconv.mpg

Worked like a charm. Thanks.

I've played it back 5 times already, and, to be honest, I don't really hear EITHER of the options.